The Official Arrandale Timeline Thread

That's a pretty good deal. Do you have the link for it?

 

Wikipedia says:

So as long as your screen resolution is higher, there will be no problems whatsoever...

 

I think low res screens are fine. In fact, I think low res screens display low res videos better than high res screens displaying low res video. However, there is a reason TVs are getting bigger and bigger, and people still go to the cinema. What's important for YOU?

 

@Bronsky:
At first i must apologize for being WAY offtopic but on most forums that have Acer 1410/1810 Threads i get no answer/help for weeks and seeing as you are a (very active and allways helpful) 1410 User i would like to ask a favor of you.

Basicaly i can get a subsedised 1410 on a 2 year 3G dataplan allmost for free (1 EUR downpayment, 37 bucks/month) but nowhere can i find info wether or not it will run "Allods Online" at least barely playable.

If you could download it from ( http://allods.gpotato.com ) - about a 2.5 gig download and basicaly the same size installed - and test it in native rez (alternativly 1024x576) on lowest setting and tell me what FPS you are getting it would be MUCH aprechiated (just looking to do solo questing/dailys).

Thanks in advance and again - apologies to everyone else but Bronsky-Wan Kenobi here is my only hope.

 

Also at Bronsky but to everybody, a simple thought that I have in general.

When buying a new laptop, I guess the main concern for all of us is how much the system is futureproof, let aside personal preferences on the form factor, build quality, connectivity. With parity of the latters, the former is the issue isn't it?

In this sense, I myself find that we must consider the point in time when BOTH the gpu and cpu get outdated, that is when we will feel the urge to change the system. And, as far as my own experience goes, the CPU is by far more longlasting than the cpu. By lasting I consider the applications or OSs that you CAN run or, if you are picky, that applications or OSs that you run at a personally identified minimum performance. Which still makes me incline to focus more on the gpu rather than cpu.

For example, I still have a (I must say is an exceptional machine) Inspiron 6000 with a Pentium M 750 and Ati X300. And (maybe because I use linux more than Win, but I dual boot) the processor has never been a problem for anything that I CAN do with the Ati X300. It is the latter that outdated the laptop EARLIER than the cpu.

I hope it is easily understood what I mean. Therefore, for example in the Bronsky case, what is the need of waiting for the i7 rather then getting the 430m, when the 5650 will easily be lesser futureproof than both? Mind that we are talking of laptops, which basically don't allow upgrading.

Obviously, unless you do certain kind of programming, engeneering or manage huge databases, although I guess a laptop with extreme portability is not the main rig if you do those things.

So in the end, you might want to change your i7 - 5650 more or less in the same time that you change your i5 430m - 5650. Or am I missing something?

 

They http://itc.ua/node/44570 messured 6 hours with the 4400 mAh Battery of their sample.
The retail version will have a 6000 mAh Battery.

Doing some math you can get 8,18 hours with the 6000 mAh Battery.

Acer also describes an optional 9000 mAh Battery in the technical description which would achieve 12 hours.

 

I'll give it a shot today when I get to work.

 

@apoikos
I think like some other members on this forum we want the ability to game at a high level when the urge sets in.
The more powerful CPU the better.
Not sure if Bronsky feels the same way but me personaly I always want to get the most powerful GPU and CPU available.
Maybe it does not make sense to some members but it does to me

 

I second that! I'd prefer a i5 540M rather than a 430M, hope they'll be available soon.

 

has any online ordering site in singapore or germany already delivered a 3820TG or are they only in pre-order?

 

Whats the point in having a car with a left pair wheels who can handle 900miles/s and the right pair is capped at 500miles/s ?

HD5650 + Core i5 430M is just the right mix. If you want a better CPU, you should also aim for a HD5850.

@fscussel
Only in preorder so far.

 

Not sure if i follow your analogy. Assuming i do, the i5-430M or the i7-620M should not be a bottleneck for the 5650 anyways. As such i think its necessary to compare the the weight, and class of the laptop before making such an analogy. I mean you're not expected to assume that you can compare a benz mclaren f1 to a lotus exige s.

Benz McClaren F1: Heavy (Size, Weight), more horsepower (CPU, GPU), More gas hungry (TDP, Battery Life)
Lotus Exige S: Light as hell (Size, Weight), less horsepower (CPU, GPU) but great horsepower/weight ratio, Way less power hungry (TDP, Battery Life) think v12 vs v4.

Albeit that's still a bad comparison, i think its slightly more relevant comparing the terms of what one should look for.

As such IKAS V and Bronsky wants a bigger horsepower engine while in a smaller frame e.g. Exige vs Exige S which the latter will have more horsepower but will be more gas hungry and harder to cool down internally.

 

It's the HD5650 who is the bottleneck! The Core i5 430M can handle about the same as the HD5650 can. The i7 would be a lot faster, which wouldn't give a large boost in most cases because of the slow HD5650. For a i7 you would need a faster GPU! It's not about the size or endurance atm.

Everybody cries : bah 430M i want at least 520M or i7 (which is an option) but does not bring a much larger performance because the HD5650 is allready the best GPU you can get in this series, so it will bottleneck the whole system in most of the cases where so much power would be needed. If you really do that much cpu oriented tasks, and need that much cpu power, go wait for it. But most people mentioned it together with gaming e.g. And even games who take high usage of the cpu will be fine with core i5 430m until the hd5650 will bottleneck.

 

You can never be too good lookin, have too much money or have a CPU that is too powerful . The comparisen of the CPU to GPU (too much power for the 5650) only applies in GPU intensive applications. For those CPU intensive applications I run every day, the faster CPU makes the difference on its own, typically when using the integrated GPU.

Bronsky

 

Damn straight! Like a 5L-V8 in a Ford Mustang. Vrrrrooooommm!

Bronsky

 

Even in such a such a case, If everyone could wait for it, they would have already. The problem is that they need it NOW, and the acer offers the best CPU/GPU relationship in the smallest frame. Maybe in 5 years we'll have the 5850 or the 7850 or the w/e in a 14 or 13 inch frame. But i mean thats the future, its anyones call so its a strawman's argument. Thus far, there is no better option than this acer in such a small frame. Furthermore, the 5650 is capable of already playing most present games with decent settings at acceptable frame rates so who cares if the CPU / GPU is the bottleneck. All that matters is that suits the task at hand for people needing both great CPU power and good GPU power.

Off topic: mustangs are awesome in drag races ;o

 

That is just my opinion! I'm waiting for my (dunno which) x820 with Core i5 430M and HD5650 which will be out soon!

 

I'd like the faster CPU because I like when CPU intense tasks run like whoa.

The HD5650 with the switching option is the bonus part of the goodie, so I could do light gaming when I wished.

As for the "wheels-anology", I think we should think about a hipothetical bike, that could have two added-on wheels (which would be the switchable HD5650), two wheel mode gives speed for the highway, four wheel mode provides fun on the dirt track (with lower possible top speed).
The dirt-track shall be the gaming use, while the highway represents labour.

 

i love to convert vids fast so i7 would help

 

nevermind.

 

With an i5 and HD5650, it can't get much better for a 13''notebook (atleast for this generation).

The only thing i really miss is a highspeedport like e-Sata or USB3.0

And maybe a better screen....and maybe a backlit keyboard

 

What tasks use the CPU, and which use the GPU?

 

CPU is used for statistical programs, video editing/audio editing, video encoding, and certain aspects of CAD rendering.

GPU is for gaming, playing DVD and Blu-rays, online videos, most aspects of CAD programs.

 

Thanks Levi.

Damn. Never thought I would wish I lived in Singapore, lol.

 

Few questions about the Timeline 3920T

How much is the expected price of the i5 version? the i7?
It's weight... am I correct at 3.9 pounds?

What kind of screen does it have?

Thanks!! I'm actually going to be in Singapore next month for vacation might pick one of these babies up

 

Get a dozen. Or ... at least one for me.

Bronsky

 

i don't *think* we need it, i think we might be bourgeois capitalists who feel we are entitled to get something for our money, before it is offered to others...and when we don't get it, we feel entitled to complain about it and ask questions about it in a forum for Free....cause u know..our money is better than other people's [better than the people who don't post in this thread for sure]

 

Exactly how I feel
Bronsky you da man!

That's what I want do with it.
And work of course

 

I posted this before, but now it is in English:

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nice nice !!! it looks soooooo slick !! 13 or 14 or 15 inch !! i can't decide !!

 

it weighs 2.5 kgs~5.5lbs, 5 hrs of battery max as per the review, more realistic data

 

The weight is nice for a 15.6 incher, the battery life is still good enough I think.

 

He didn't mention anything about the switchable graphics though. Maybe it was 5 hours running the dedicated ATI cards.

 

Any info about availability in Japan for the 3820?

I'm here as an exchange student atm.

 

Any assumption as to what US pricing will be for a 3820TG with i5?

I know it's probably in here somewhere but it's 134 pages!

 

My guess is $1,200 for the I7-620M/HD 5650.

 

And like 850 USD for the 430m + HD5650 modell (which modell is available for 850 EUR in Germany).

It's a pity the 3820 is not out with an i5 520M or faster CPU yet, the Asus N82 has just shown itself in Germany (for 950 EUR), with i5 520M + GT 335M.
Hope the 3820 gets updated with faster CPUs soon, I'd prefer the HD5650 over the GT 335M.

Both notebooks only for pre-order NOT in stock.

 

Yea he didn't mention anything about switchable graphics and what brightness setting or power setting was selected. A vague review at any rate. I'd rather wait for another more in depth review before coming to any conclusion about its battery life.

 

Not to argue, but when no conditions are stated, the standard way to define a battery life is to indicate the maximum life (i.e., on IGP, power saver, Dimmed)

5hrs is pretty good for 15.6/i5/5650+IGP, it is reachable on other laptops using high density batteries only.

This thread reminds me of the Envy thread before release, the expectations were too high.

 

Two of my kids are going off to college in the fall and I need to upgrade their notebooks.

We are looking at the 3820's but are trying to figure out if any of the hard drive options are 7200rpm? Based on the specs from that .tw site earlier in the thread the 640gb is 5400rpm.

The other thing I noticed is that in some of the official photos from Acer the 4820 and 5820 clearly show an optical drive with the Blu-ray symbol on it but the review sites that have taken shots of the 4820 with the i5 show a different drive with no Blu-ray logo - has anyone else noticed that?

Curt

 

The Asus N82 is now listed for just a bit over 900€....

The battle has begun now

The Acer has longer batterylife, but less ports.

Hard to decide now...

 

Acer weight much less

 

Plus, in Europe, if You go Acer You get a (probably) better HD 5650 GPU but a slower i5 430M CPU, while if You go for the Asus, You'd get a faster i5 520M CPU, but (only) a GT 335M GPU, it weighs more, it's bigger, but has a built in ODD (if prefered even), and so on.

Long story short, it's good to see the waiting hours slowly turning into deciding hours, which reminds me...Jay! How's your sentence today?

 

Well, I'm definitely happy with the i5-430M, and I wouldn't be willing to spend more than $50 for a higher i5. However, I don't think I'd be happy with the HD 5650 or GT 335M, so I'm stepping up in size to 15" and am likely to buy the MSI GX640. It's looking pretty good in reviews at the moment.

 

I stopped doing it. Someone else can take over if they want.

 

so many posts, is the 3820 out now?

 

not just yet...

 

Does the N82 have Blu-ray, HDMI, and USB 3.0?

 

Just returned from an electronics expo in Taipei.
Many vendors are selling the Timeline X series, although
I was not able to get my hands on one. Some said they
were in stock at their stores.
I've scanned the X series page in the new Acer catalog for you folks.
The prices in Taiwan dollars are in red at the bottom of each model.
Notice only one of the models has the ATI HD 5650 graphics.

$36,900 nt converts to $1,208 USD.
But computers typically cost 20% to 30% more here than in the US.
I'd guess the 3820TG i5-430m with ATI HD 5470 will be $899 in the US.

BTW.. the number "130" just over the price refers to a 1.3 web cam.
Be aware.. features can differ from country to country.

 

^

I think it is encouraging to see that the 4820TG has a model containing a Core i5 520m... I was worried I'll be stuck with the 430m, or will have to wait longer to get an i7 620m. Fingers crossed, but at the moment I'll probably pull the trigger in June and buy whatever's available at the time (might even consider the Asus N82 if the 520m TimelineX models are MIA).