AMD 10.10 Reference Driver Discussion

These drivers don't support MLAA for HD4800 series correctly yet, it's not that perfect on my 5870's either, but it's working somehow, on some games better on others not so

Yes, recommended with any drivers post 10.8... The new VBIOS supports the AMD reference drivers, for more compatibility and stability. You can find instructions here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-2010-incl-vbios-flash-guide.html#post6732264

 

I think you may be right because since 10.10, I don't get CTDs anymore and flickering is minimal...

 

I've been having a completely different problem with usage on the 2nd GPU fluctuating. The framerate seems to be high, but the game has a rough feel to it. It's been like this in every driver post 10.5a, including the Dell driver.

 

thanks a lot

 

i still cant install 10.10c modded mobility because the driver cannot be loaded by windows due to absence of driver signature.

5870s with new vbios

 

hi all ive updated to latest bios for the motherboard but not the video bios... but ive installed 10.10 which did work but when i powerd down down and back up again a few days later i got bsod.

so in safe mode i went back to old dells drivers..

could this be because i havent updated the bios.

thanks for any help

 

Yeh chiefs, You need to update the Vbios to fix that. The new dell drivers and beyond like the 10.10 need the Vbios update to fix and make them compatible.

Cheers.

 

cheers bud thanks for the fast reply...

 

No worries chiefs.

Make sure you install dells new driver before you attempt to flash update the vbios because it will scan to see the 5870 name when you go to create the flash usb or CD files. Once you have updated the vbios you can go back and install 10.10 if you like oles.

Cheers.

 

@Turmoil
BFBC2 auto updated last night. Played last night and tonight. Flickering problems remain. In fact, since I've updated the vbios, my flickering has been much worse. There are times when I can't get out of flickering. It may take up to a minute, which usually gets me killed. Is there a separate thread specifically for people who have ATI cards and experience BFBC2 problems?

 

I just downloaded 10.10 and when i was unstalling the 8.7 drivers to install them i got a BSOD during the uninstall. I did the vbios update with 8.7 when it first released and my computer has been working great until now. I could not get to the desktop or into safe mode without a BSOD so my only option was to use Alienrespawn. I got back to the desktop but my old driver 8.6 is showing installed from my original factory settings. I have read that you cant roll back before 8.7 with the vbios update or else you can brick your cards and get endless BSOD. So im kinda freakin out...if i restart my computer now the new vbios will boot up with 8.6 drivers...but i guess it already did that with the alienrespawn so im now im kinda confused. Im downloading 8.7 right now but to properly install 8.7 i have to unistall 8.6 and reboot, then install 8.7...i dont wanna repeat of BSOD when unistalling drivers...i have no idea what i did wrong or what to do now or in what order? Did the Vbios flash back to original factory settings when i respawned? i dont know any indepth details about how the vbios will now work with pervious drivers. Can i get some help...

 

I wanted to add what CCC shows me having installed for vbios..

BIOS Version 012.020.000.027
BIOS Part Number 113-B96101-104
BIOS Date 2010/05/13

is this the new or old vbios?

 

This is the new, latest VBIOS for HD5870 provided by Dell, revision A01.

To add: You can't use older drivers prior 10.8, so you cannot uninstall and revert back to the default installed ATI drivers. You have to get back to VGA Drivers and get rid of older ATI Display Drivers either by manually cleaning with CCleaner, DriverSweeper and checking with regedit for left overs (search for ATI Technology and Catalyst entries).

I still can advise everyone that flashed the VBIOS and likes to update their drivers from time to time, start with a new fresh windows installation so you will always go back to default VGA drivers and not preinstalled Dell drivers or anything once you try to uninstall and update your Display drivers. Cheers

 

well i was able to reinstall the 8.7 drivers and do all the rebooting without any problems and it looks like my computer is back to normal after the respawn. Any clue on why i got a BSOD uninstalling 8.7 drivers?

 

Read my updated previous post. It's a well known issue with older drivers. You need 8.75x.x+ drivers with new VBIOS.

 

the older 8.6 was auto installed when i used alienrespawn and i was able to remove it, reboot, install 8.7, and reboot again with no BSOD's or issues using the new vbios. I was trying to update my drivers to 10.10 and during the normal ops of unstilling 8.7 to reboot and install 10.10...i got the BSOD. What default drivers is windows reverting too that conflict with the vbios cuz Im unstilling the ATI drivers. Doesnt windows revert to VGA by default? Is there a way to update alienrespawn so it installes 8.7?

 

i was just going off what the dell driver site is saying....right now it says use 8.7 with new vbios.

 

Where is the BSOD happening? If it happens after uninstalling your display drivers and you restart, then it's the previous factory installed ATI/Dell driver you reverted back and not VGA. The VGA driver will only be STANDARD when you completly cleaned out all ATI releated stuff or after fresh windows install without automatic updates on or like you said when you somehow uninstalled 8.6... But 8.6 is already not good.

I think there is a way to update your system partition and have the ability to revert to VGA, but then you have to disable auto-updates for hardware and clean a little bit with the mentioned programs and procedure in regedit maybe.

Anyway, when you are on VGA and the system stays on VGA, you should do a new restore point in Alienrespawn and that would be your good revert point if something ever goes wrong in the future updating your drivers.

 

When the uninstall started i walked away from the computer and came back to a BSOD so i didnt actually see it happen. The computer doesnt restart automatically after the uninstall is complete. You have to click out of it for that to happen so it must have happened as it was uninstalling sometime. Im nervous to try again. I will do every restore point i can before i do. I will also try and clean everything out with CCleaner but ive never used it before. Any ideas why it would do that?

 

As already said 3 times, it's the old video driver that came preinstalled with your system (which is NOT compatible with the later released VBIOS) and you have to get rid of that before you install any new drivers.

After uninstalling 8.7, you will revert to 8.6, so you have to uninstall that one aswell, manually if its needed. You have to get back to VGA at all cost, then you can set restore point and install 10.10 or the Dell driver, whatever you like...

 

10.10 not installing for me for some reason. It says Installation complete (warnings occured during installation). I'm running driverless at the moment, so if anyone has solutions, it would help!

Log File shows this - -UI 11/01/10 19:48:45installATI Radeon Graphics ProcessorATI Technologies Inc0x68a00x10020x043a0x10280x0300000x00ATI Radeon Graphics ProcessorATI Technologies Inc0x68a00x10020x043a0x10280x0300000x00ATI Technologies Inc0xaa580x10020x043a0x10280x0403000x00 Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable9.0.30729.41487 Catalyst Control CenterSucceed2010.0930.2237.38732150 ATI Catalyst Install ManagerSucceed3.0.795.020 ATI Display DriverFail8.782.0.000090 WMV9/VC-1 Video PlaybackSucceed1.00.00001 Hardware informationExisting packagesPackages for installPackages for uninstallOther detected devicesError messagesNameManufacturerChip typeDevice IDOther hardwareDownload packagesSuccessFailVendor IDClass CodeRevision IDSubsystem IDSubsystem vendor IDCatalyst™ Install ManagerInstallation ReportFinal Status:Version of Item:Size:MbytesDriver Install: Windows® version does not support this operationDriver Install: Windows® version does not support this operation

 

i understand now...i didnt know it reverts back to the pervious drivers automatically when you uninstall the current one. Ill Cclean everything with ATI on it then try for a reboot. Thanks for help

 

Not sure what steps you've taken so far, but this worked for me 1st time.

1. Ensure you are on the current VBIOS (There are instructions on this forum)
2. Uninstall the current Catalyst drivers
3. Reboot into Safe Mode
4. Run Driver Sweeper
5. Reboot into VGA Mode
6. Install Catalyst 10.10

 

Frankly that's the only thing i've been doing. I've restarted like 50 million times so far... does my head in.

 

Sorry to hear you're having so much heart ache with 10.10. I haven't had any issues with the driver installs for the 5870s but I noticed this in your log;

"Windows® version does not support this operation"

Apologies in advance if this is a stupid question, but you have the driver suited to your OS (32 v 64bit)?

Have you also checked your event log for any further information?

I assume you are running the installs with Admin privileges and UAC turned off?

Edit: Have you also tried to uninstall all M$ Visual C++ Redists?

 

Thanks but to be fair.. it's any driver's at the moment. Even 10.8 had a problem before.

And yes, fair question but it is the "10-10_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc.exe "(Pretty sure that's the right file? If not.. let me know!)

Yes to the admin question (only 1 account on here as it is!) and yes to UAC turned off.

As for M$ Visual C++ I haven't uninstalled that yet.. but I'm thinking I should start. All of them? Or any in particular to look our for?

 

The driver versions look OK.

These are the packages I used:

10-10_mobility_vista_win7_32-64_ccc.exe
10-10_mobility_vista_win7_32-64_hydravision.exe
10-10_ATICatalyst_AppProfiles.exe

Alternatively you can use the download manager (catalyst_mobility_64-bit_util.exe) on the AMD site.

With respect to the M$ VC++ Runtime, try uninstalling 2008.

Also, delete your installation folders (C:\ATI or C:\AMD - Defaults).

Edit: Apologies. M$ VC++ 2010

 

Trying uninstalling all the ATI drivers and Catalyst control centre. Then boot up into safe mode and run Driver Sweeper and CC Cleaner. Then what i do as an extra step is to go into regedit and do a search for "ATI" and then "ATI Technologies" and remove all instances that the search finds. Then reboot back into normal mode Windows and it should be in VGA mode. Check Device Manager to be sure. Then run the 10.10 installation.

 

Yea I've got rid of the 2008 ones, might even get rid of the 2005 ones.

I pretty much got this one straight from the Dell Website (which was linked on NBR).

 

Don't forget M$ VC++ 2010.

When you say Dell website, I assume you mean the AMD website as the 10.10 drivers are not up on the Dell site yet. (If you're talking about 10.10 and not 10.8)

 

never use driver sweeper for catalyst 10.6 and up there are very very high chances of a screw up wich would require a clean instalof window

the driver package uninstaller has been updated and work fine but doing so they broke driver sweeper

 

Er yea.. I meant the AMD website (NBR has a link from skatehouse I think straight to it).

And oddly I don't have any 2010 VC++ files on the computer. Either way..

 

That's odd as the install directory contains the following:

Packages\Apps\CCC
Packages\Apps\CIM
Packages\Apps\VC10RTx64
Packages\Apps\WMVDecoder64

I didn't monitor my install that closely, but I'm fairly certain the 2010 run-time was installed as part of the 10.10 package.

Perhaps one of the other guys can confirm ...

 

I think it has 2008 runtime.

I also have the same issues as you Jubbing. No matter what I try I cannot install the Dell display driver (everything else in the package installs fine). However it did install correctly when I first got the machine out of the box, subsequently I updated to 10.10 last week so I lost the driver. I think there is another program on my lappy that is conflicting with the installer somehow. But since I have lots of programs I cant be bothered to reformat. Weirdly all the ATI direct drivers install just fine

 

Well Like I said, it doesn't fully install 10.10 (even though it says it does). The uninstall programs screen shows CCC as only 25mb installed.

 

Mine shows:

ATI Catalyst Install Manager 22.4MB.

 

So what are you running now?

 

Im using 10.10 (the AMD drivers, NOT the Dell version)

 

Hm well I tried ALL the steps as from before, and this is what I get. Still problems.. still annoying. It's not from any Dell website, its the exact link from the NBR 10.10 thread.

 

From your screenshot it looks like there is some other driver installed (usually when I am on VGA drivers everything is pixellated). Try this link;
ATI Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver

Make sure you remove your current drivers as normal - when you reboot and look in device manager you should see VGA drivers beside the video cards. You can then go ahead and try to install 10.10.

 

Oles cheifs.

Sorry to hear about the problems your experiencing with driver installations. I hate it when they just don't want to install properly. Give the AMD suite 1.1mb a go although it is pretty much if not the exact same driver file.

I would say try all the steps you have tried before wipe everything clean again one last time and see if it works if not it looks like you will have to try formatting and re installing the OS from scratch again. Sorry to say that but that is the best way to rule out any other problems you may have. I would do the format after you give it a little more time and few extra goes. Seems like another format is the only way though atm.

Try deleting the GPUs in safe mode under device manager as well as wiping everything. Restart and try again. Also I remember from a few other cases like yourself that others had to force install the drivers and then they were able to fully install the driver properly later. So perhaps try force installing the drivers. Using similar methods to the have disk method to choose the inf driver to install manually.

Good LUck Chiefs.

Cheers.

 

Or should I just go to the Device Manager and manually uninstall each ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 driver?

 

you are in for a clean install driver sweeper mess the registry for 10.6 and higher DO NOT USE IT once you used it it's to late you are in for a clean install

 

Yeh give it a go chiefs. You've got nothing to lose now. However I'm sorry to say that a format is looking more and more on the cards.

For a quick driver install fix though. Others have done it. If you can somehow get any driver version to install. In your case you are limited because the vbios doesn't support older drivers anymore. So try dells or AMDs 10.8 or AMDs modded 10.9 drivers. Install them if you can and then right after install the 10.10 mobility drivers right over the top. See how you go then chiefs. You might have to use the force have disk manual method though as well.

Good Luck!

Cheers.

 

Even after uninstalling CCC it still says 5870's next to my video cards.. clearly something was never uninstalled

 

Have you tried running drive sweeper, CCLeaner after uninstalling. Your system should revert back to the default resolution which is much lower than the 1900x1200. I forgot which resolution Windows sets it to.

 

Ok so latest update. It now shows up as standard VGA graphics adapter next to the Display Adapters.

So least we're there.. but it still shows as 1600x1200 resolution.

Latest pic shown.. CCC tells you some interesting things.. even though CCC isn't even installed!

 

Hmmsss strange stuff indeed.

Okay Select all and install oles. See how you go this time ey.

Cheers.

 

Nope tried it all again. This time it said none of the stuff was installed.. yet it still isn't working. All hope is lost. Abandon Ship. Humanity is dying. Etc etc.

 

Ah bugger chiefs.

So you gonna reformat now then is it?
If so make sure to leave the GPU drivers till last after you have everything else installed 1st in terms of drivers and so forth.

Cheers.