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    AMD 7970m available for buy

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by flingin, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. SlickDude80

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    he's sending it back to the seller first...we'll see what comes of it
     
  2. qohelet

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    Any real game performance of 7970? Sc2 4v4, withcher, bf3 etc
     
  3. nissangtr786

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    slickdude80 have you tried gta 4 on your laptop max setting at 1080p. View distance aa etc to the top. I wonder if 60fps is achievable then again gta 4 is unoptimised so will hover from 60 to 30fps. If you have it can you do a benchmark.
     
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    I guess everyone needs a hobby, I am not exactly risk adverse, but I don't see dumping $500 down a drain as any kind of badge either. Is Dell selling these cards? I know they give a 90 day warranty on parts, but probably at a higher cost than these resellers.

    There is just no way I would risk $500, especially when an entire new R4 could be purchased for under $2000 with a 7970m. I would probably just buy a whole new computer and sell my old one rather than taking a $500 gamble on an unwarrantied part.

    Anyway, massive bummer, I hope it works out in the end, $500 is a lot to lose with no gain at all. Really most of the risk with just trying the card is minimal, if it isn't compatible or whatever you can resell it. But man, to have it burn out and be a paperweight, that is seriously rough.

    SC2 should already be maxed over 60 FPS, it is on my 580m. The others get a nice boost, from 40-50 average on a 580m, to up above 60. There are some actual benchmarks floating around in these threads, depending on game and resolution it is a real world 20-70% boost.
     
  5. GeoCake

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    I predict an OCed 7970M can play "maxed out" DirectX 11 Metro 2033 @ 35+ FPS :p

    Maybe 40+ ;O
     
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    Ill be waiting to see if you can do that. :D
     
  7. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    that was what I was going to do before the card exploded :( damn it perma sadness :( crap I am so fluctuating these days, gone mad??
     
  8. SlickDude80

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    I've played some witcher2 @ 1080p with everything enabled except uber sampling and it never dropped below high 30's...usually in the mid to higher 40's, low 50's

    bf3 ultra 1080p = 45+fps
    Skyrim maxxed = 70+fps (that includes the towns like white run)

    Sorry dude, don't have that game, but if this card can't run it, nothing can (literally).

    I was just about to install the game and run through it again. I'll post my playing impressions...I think i'll be able to play at 1080p . The last time i played this game it was on a gtx 460m and i had to drop the graphics waaay down

    did you send the card back yet?
     
  9. maxheap

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    I think I just decided to give it another go! I will try to enable iGPU and do a little bit more analysis! I will send you a PM as soon as I start trying bro! But if nothing happens, I mean it bricks out :D I will ship tomorrow :)
     
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    Good luck graz'zt, hope it works out for ya!
     
  11. Toledano

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    Quick question, could I get the 7970? I remember reading somewhere that once I had the R3 3D I was stuck with Nvidia.
     
  12. Optimistic Prime

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    Yup, via the motherboard. The only thing you can do to change this is switch to a 60hz screen.

    I believe Widezu is scheming to grab one along with a 7970m.
     
  13. Toledano

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    Oh, thanks. I was just weighing my options here :D
     
  14. SlickDude80

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    680m?? :D

    Sure bro...crossing my fingers for you!
     
  15. Optimistic Prime

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    I'm excited to see Nvidia and AMD put all of their cards on the table. This shall be quite an interesting summer. :D
     
  16. SlickDude80

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    it might be a while though...got confirmation from Nvidia Nut yesterday that 680m is delayed as they try and crank the clocks
     
  17. Toledano

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    Yup yup, now to finish my time travel machine > :D
     
  18. Optimistic Prime

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    Good, my wallet needs to prepare. ;)
     
  19. nissangtr786

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    slickdude80 can you run 3dmark06 :D

    I guess something like 40000 without checking any scores :D
     
  20. maxheap

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    no 3dmark6 doesn't hit there, the performance gain is already marginal in it...
     
  21. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    3DMark06 is dated and is very CPU dependent. Not worth running. 3DMark11 should be the norm now.
     
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    WEll i have the game of Metro 2033 when i get the 7970m or the 680m i will do the TEST :)
     
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    Heh - I just recently started playing through Metro :D

    >>> would be awesomely interesting to see how Slick's numbers look for that.

    Just wish the damn thing could get AND STAY vsynced - horrible screen tearing!

    BTW, how much do FPS typically vary going from 1080p to 1920x1200 (1200p?) res? A lot or just a lil?
     
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    I think Metro has serious engine problems. I can run it all Ultra DX11 with Tess on and everything. At 1080P I get drops into the 20's. At 1600X900 I get a constant 40+ FPS. It is an absolutely massive difference for a miniscule resolution difference.

    When I played through it I used Adaptive VSync, which fixed tearing, FXAA to make it smooth, I used the Nvidia GPU scaling and scaled it up to 1080p. Using those settings I played in maxed out settings and never saw it below 40 FPS, most of the time it was at or near synced 60.

    Anyway, said all that to say that normally res doesn't matter a lot (1080P and 900P on BF3 is within like 3 FPS for me), but I think with Metro is makes a huge difference because of a poorly optimized graphics engine.
     
  25. maxheap

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    A laptop without a GPU heatsink can theoretically boot right? (fan is plugged in)
     
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    O_O Are you serious? Booting with the GPU installed with no heatsink?

    My guess is like a CPU it would overheat and possibly self destruct up with no heatsink.

    just my 2c
     
  27. maxheap

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    not CPU, that's for sure, I am meaning the GPU, assuming you are running of iGPU, it should be completely off until you switch in (especially when the card is dead)
     
  28. jd63636

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    If the card is dead already then I suppose as long as the fan is connected you could boot running the iGPU. I have never tried it though.
     
  29. maxheap

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    yepp, that was my surprise, I just tried that :) again silence...
     
  30. long2905

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    Can you try bios reset? I once plug in my dead 6870M and the system boot on still. In e system info tab it showed that no dedicated GPU found.
     
  31. maxheap

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    I am logging in just fine with 580m, no idea what is the trouble of this beast...
     
  32. daveatx

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    So who's going to be the first to throw two ( must less one ) 7970m into a R2.
     
  33. Banished Angel

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    I currently have a 6970M and I was just wondering how much I could get out of it. I was also wondering how much a 7970M costs. If the price difference between the two is reasonable i'm definitely considering an upgrade since the performance increase is so incredible.
     
  34. DR650SE

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    Price is about $450 is what it looks like if your going with upgradeyourlaptop, which is Eurocoms ebay store, or Table21 who is a member here. The plus side is you can sell your 6970 for maybe $300 to recoup some of the cost. The problem with that is that the 7970 won't be covered by Dell in the event of warranty issues. That's why I would recommend keeping the 6970.
     
  35. maxheap

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    and if your 7970m ever explodes like mine did, you will have your oldie 6970m ready to save the day :)
     
  36. Banished Angel

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    Could someone possibly be nice enough to link me to somewhere I could buy a 7970m?
     
  37. maxheap

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    they are not selling on the web right now, you either email upgradeyourlaptop at ebay, or call eurocom
     
  38. nayilalien

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    ask for Dan Smith from Eurocom
     
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    i want 1 but i have 580m D: i must wait the 680m jojo
     
  40. Banished Angel

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    Considering my 6970m is slower than your 580m the upgrade is definitely worth it for me haha. I sent upgradeyourlaptop a message on ebay and i'll see how that goes.
     
  41. maxheap

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    7970m is on stock +60% faster than 580m...
     
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    Depends on the test dude, its not that large a difference in all games. ;)
     
  43. Mr. Fox

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    Yes, but he disabled iGP prior to installing the mobility 7970
    .
     
  45. maxheap

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    @katalin, I enabled the iGPU and put the card back and no post again :confused:

    @BigT, definitely, I am just speaking 3dmark11 (ah I am still feeling the breeziness of that beautiful 5.6k run :))
     
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    Alright just making sure. :)


    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using tapatalk 2
     
  47. maxheap

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    I PASSED THE POST THE DARNED POST!!! to only discover it is not recognized in the device manager :) Also one more thing, a laptop can boot without the GPU heatsink :)
     
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    Hmm really strange. Does it show up in the BIOS?

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using tapatalk 2
     
  49. micahmatthew

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    So it was a driver issue ? Let us know if the drive comes back to life
     
  50. maxheap

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    Tony you know what, I will order an amd heatsink (Revelator way) and try to see what happens, seriously I am confused right now... :confused:

    Btw as stupid as I am I didn't go into bios, just logged into windows and checked device manager if it appears as undetected device, but nothing there, then I closed the laptop, as the backpanel was open and it was kinda scary :D
     
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