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    AMD 7970m available for buy

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by flingin, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. GeoCake

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    I believe the 2D clocks are 300/150, then it is 450/1200 and 850/1200... D:
    No idea what about the voltage.

    Do you think this card can be overvolted in the near future or is it already at its highest voltage?
     
  2. svl7

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    Ok, thanks.

    It has several clock entries:
    850/1200
    500/800
    300/150
    450/1200
    450/300

    The additional entries are probably for battery or when a second display is connected, I dunno.

    What does GPU-Z report for the voltage?

    The voltage table itself looks quite crazy, it goes from 0.750V up to 1.225V... :D
    No idea whether are values are actually valid, but it almost seems so.
     
  3. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Crazy stuff. Forgot to say I am on an external display via VGA... I am really scared of flashing the vbios at this stage. I probably won't... We barely know anything about the card. :(

    [​IMG]

    It's also possible that GPU-Z/Trixx do not understand the card because we are using modded drivers, not official ones.
     
  4. SlickDude80

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    thnx svl7!

    If we did the flash and it didn't work, can't we just reflash with the original? I read your article at techinferno (re: 6970 back from dead) and there's no way i would be able to put a new chip on the pcb. I lack both the equipment and expertise
     
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    As far as I know current version of GPU-Z supports only 7670M at the moment.
     
  6. svl7

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    You could try the leaked 12.5 drivers.
     
  7. SlickDude80

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    Both Geo and i are already on the leaked 12.5's

    here is a summmary of what i've already tried:

    I tried to get OVERDRIVE to appear in CCC...no luck

    After cats 12.2, ati removed 2 dll's that third party OC programs need...SO, i added it back and modded the inf. Reinstalled the drivers...no luck

    Tried to manually increase MSI AFTERBURNER overclock limits via registry mod. This worked before...but with the 7970m...no luck. Currently Afterburner's max limit is the stock 850/1200 speed of the 7970m. Hence no OC'ing possible yet

    tried ATI Tray Tools after adding back the dll's in the driver. It installed, but on the OC menus, the limits are too low and registry mod isn't working (when it did for previous versions of cards)

    The new Sapphire Trixx released yesterday doesn't support the 7970m yet

    GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. GeoCake

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    The most that can happen is black screen after the windows load screen. Pretty sure the bios will detect the card regardless, and when it is detected it can be flashed. But we don't even know if ATIflash will flash, we only know it can read and dump so far. Come on Slick. :D
     
  9. svl7

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    That's my guess as well. And you have an integrated graphics as well, so in the worst case (if it doesn't boot after flashing) you should still be able to change to the HD3000 after resetting the BIOS, boot from it to DOS and reflash the card (though I'm not familiar with this graphics switching stuff, so I'm not 100% sure it works that way)

    Flashing shouldn't be an issue at all, ATIflash was able to correctly read out the whole VBIOS (I checked it) and therefore it shouldn't have any issue with flashing.
     
  10. SlickDude80

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    come on Geo :D :D

    hmmm, yes. Theoretically everything is recoverable
     
  11. GeoCake

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    It's your turn now Slick... I dumped it, you gotta flash! I am 99% sure it will go perfectly.
     
  12. wtferrell

    wtferrell Notebook Evangelist

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    Haha... 99% sure :)

    You have to feel pretty good about those odds don't you Slick? :)
     
  13. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Damn it, I so missed being a part of this party :( Slick, I booted the lappy once with the card, it may not be dead, but it didn't show in the device manager, I think it has electrical issues or maybe some connection problem on the MXM connection to mobo, because it randomly boots, sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't... also I won't try to mount it with 580 heatsink anymore, so I will just send it back, if it is alive, I will order the new heatsink and join the party :) damn it, I missed my perma smile :(
     
  14. SlickDude80

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    hahahha...in most things in life, 99% odds are fabulous. I'll have a few beers after work, lets see how courageous i get :D

    Damn Grazt!! That's encouraging! There is a little light now in the darkness :D
     
  15. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Hopefully Table will work his magic :)
     
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    I swear he sprinkeled some magic dust or something on my 6990m when I sent it in. After I got it back it worked great. :D

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using tapatalk 2
     
  17. SlickDude80

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    Seriously dude, crossing fingers for my bro in NJ! :D
     
  18. GeoCake

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    Thanks guys! will send it to him as soon as I figure out how to make an international return :)
     
  20. johnnyman27

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    guys the 7970m that eurocom sells are dell cards or clevo??
     
  21. wtferrell

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    They're Clevo cards johnny
     
  22. jaybee83

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    haha i like the change in ur sig grazzt :p nice one! and all the best for the resuscitation! :)

    now THIS really got me worried.... :O i hope that this really just applies to the Dell versions and that were gonna be fine with the clevo versions from upgradeyourlaptop :/
     
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    upgradeyourlaptop does NOT sell Dell versions. They will sell Clevo 7970Ms (Clevo vbios) with Samsung memory. They will work perfectly with R3s and R2s, and obv perfect with Clevos. Not sure about M15x.

    You can only get Dell versions from forum members, unlikely getting them from Dell just yet.

    If people are unsure, just link them back to this post, because I am sure. :p
     
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    The only cards members have are Dell cards right now, as that is what Table21 receives. Eurocom sells Clevo laptops, and thats what they order from their distributor.
     
  27. jaybee83

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    thanks for soothing my mind guys :) the party is still ON then! :D
     
  28. johnnyman27

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    why prema says that??

    I just saw that Clevo folks are ordering the DELL 7970M for their HM P-series boards.
    It works for a short while but reports the temps to the EC in a way it doesn't like, which results in automatic shutdown. So you will have to wait for a Clevo 7970M bios or even card.
    So as of now don't waste your money on the dell cards.
     
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    Eurocomm Sells Clevo Cards with Clevo V-Bio's ;)
     
  30. GeoCake

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    @johnny

    They can't have been ordering Dell cards, because only a select few knew about Table21. A very select few (5 max, hence all cards were sold out like instantly) :p

    Also you do realise you're posting 'don't waste your money on the dell cards' on an alienware forum? XD
     
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    Good to know, cause i have already paid for one 7970 of theirs! :D
     
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    lol u right!!!sorry for that!! :confused:

    thx my friend for the info!!! :D
     
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    should work no problem in a clevo system, no clue how it's gonna work in an alienware though. Guess time will tell :)
     
  35. DirtyTrickster

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    We have 30 days to find out.
     
  36. GeoCake

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    I just ordered one and this what they had to say about compatibility,

    Hi Nayil

    We don’t accept returns on VGA cards, due to the number of users we’ve had damage the cards through improper installation, lack of ESD precautions and in some cases, not even using thermal paste. Please ensure you take all precautions prior to installation.

    The cards will be tested prior to shipping out. At this point we do not foresee compatibility issues with Alienware systems. We will be having this confirmed prior to shipping out pre-orders, if the cards are not compatible for some reason then we will provide our customers with the opportunity to cancel their order.

    I hope this answers your question.

    Best Regards
     
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    At what resolution may I ask? Thx.
     
  39. GeoCake

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    1080p ^ Always.

    Also nayilalien, don't forget you have PayPal protection, and they side with the buyer 99% of the time. But returns.. yeah... just make sure you want this card 101%. No second thoughts. :p
     
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    1080p...1920x1080
     
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    Thanks! Good to know!
     
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    I heard from someone that Nvidia is better bc it has CUDA cores and that works very well when rendering videos in Sony Vegas Pro/Adobe Premiere Pro and AMD's 7970M will render much slower.
    I am wondering will GTX680M be much more expensive than 7970M and will it be able to out perform 7970m?

    Oh and it would great if someone knew when GTX680M will be out so I can decide whether to go with AMD or Nvidia.

    Finally how I make NBR send me an email when someone has replied me?
    Thx in advance.
     
  43. GeoCake

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    It decreases render times in certain codecs, e.g. H264. I use WMV mostly, and CUDA is useless lol, so the CPU is left with all the work. AMD has GPU accelerated rendering too which works in the same way. However it hasn't really worked for me as well as Nvidia has with CUDA.

    Some GTX 680M specs and benchmarks leaked a while ago: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M - Notebookcheck.net Tech but the 7970M slaughtered them, so Nvidia delayed it (it's gonna be a long wait don't you worry) and went back to the drawing board to crank up the clocks. As always with top of the range Nvidia GPUs it will cost a fortune, for something that I predict will be inferior to the 7970M.
     
  44. maxheap

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    I think 680m will be on par with 7970m, but it certainly won't worth the crazy price, it will certainly be twice the price of 7970m (as the same guy who leaked that bench also said that 7970m will score from 4500 to 4700, which we saw scores 5.6k
     
  45. GeoCake

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    Yeah, but we actually saw screenshots for the GTX 680M benchmark. I guess the guy based his 7970M estimation on that and clearly underestimated the 7970M, as I did.
     
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    Press the Thread Tools tab and select Subscribe to this Thread. You can be notified instantly, daily or weekly.
     
  47. SlickDude80

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    As of right now, the 7970m smokes a 680m. I can tell you this because of insider info that I received. The source is 100% reliable...and has never let me down (no fudzilla BS). The 680m is delayed while they rework the ram and core clocks. When it will be available is anyone's best guess.
     
  48. maxheap

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    This makes a lot of sense to me, probably he just thought they should be similar and made some numbers up (although he made an awful job at saying 1536 shaders :D) yeah currently 7970m is like heaven come true, seriously 500 bucks for 580m SLI performance, ridiculous (I so wish to join back to the party :mad:)

    @Slick, seriously???? wow they were also testing 680m??
     
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    I went to school with a lot of geeks...some went to work at ATI and some went to work at that other video card company. I can't say the name as it might incriminate me
     
  50. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    wish I was in that school :)
     
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