AMD 7970m available for buy

Alright I've tried fiddling around and restarting my laptop, it's definitely due to hwinfo, anyone have any idea why it would be fixing my laptops brightness at the very top level? Also, when setting automatic fan speeds in hwinfo, which selection should i use? as in, should i choose gpu 1, 2 or processor? is there a way to make all fans spin centrally via this?

 

Has anyone heard any updates about this?

 

I'm using HWINFO64 v396.1640 in my R3. It does not lock brightness at the top level. I can adjust brightness through its full range through either the Fn+F4/Fn+F5 keys or via the sliders. Might be worth an update.

 

So, to get the gist of this, once better AMD drivers are released for the 7970m it should have much better gaming performance?

 

much better gaming performance? that sounds like the 7970M isnt living up to ur expectations lol in general, a 5-10% boost isnt unheard of due to driver optimizations, but its more about stability and compatibility rather than performance increases, especially in this case with such a powerful gpu

 

That GPU is not dat powerfull imo.

Sure, it stills perform great, but i really expected high end GPU to eat every freakin' game on max settings.

This is , still , not the case. Crysis 2 or BF with ultra settings do have important frame drop, like 30 FPS. I expected this card to be over 60 all the time, and it's not.

Anyway , it's still a great card, but mobile GPU really needs to get better ( without thoses SLI thing only available in a few models ) , it's not normal that a 500$+ GPU can't handle everything on max with rock solid fps.

 

The testing benchmarks i've seen had BF3 over 50FPS on Ultra...

 

i was about to say...there actually IS no game this card cannot max out at smooth framerates,at least not that im aware of

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To me 30 fps is laggy. I need 50+ fps all the time (especially in MP), that is smooth framerates IMO. The 7970m can't max for instance BF3, Crysis 2, Metro 2033 at these framerates.

7970m is a great card but I totally agree with Catzoo, this card is not a god. If you want 60+ fps in almost all games in a notebook right now, you need 7970 X-fire, or just buy a desktop.

 

If you think it's weak then why own a laptop at all? Buy a desktop of you want the most power possible. For a mobile gpu this is the best out there. I think you take for granted how incredible this technology is compared to last years which was about 50 percent weaker. ..maybe you could build your own GPU since this one is not good enough lol.

 

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Man if 30 fps is laggy to you then how do you even game with your system? A single 6690m is the same as a 5870m xfire. A single 7970m is the same as a 6990m xfire. Also a single 7970m is comparable to a gtx 580. This is all in a mobile form. If you don't think that powerful enough then why even bother with a laptop? Just build your self a godly desktop.

 

Cause i need mobility, and being able to play in my flat, at friends, at work and at my parents.

That's why it's impossible for me to have several computer, especially knowing how pain it is to always install games twice, change your shortcut each time, change your graphical settings, mouse sensivity etc..

No , i need to have the very same config all the time, so i need a laptop. I also need to be over 60FPS without hurting my eyes, so i need a really expensive netbook.

And i'm still not even please with it, even if it's awesome.

 

Sorry tech isn't good enough for you. Go get a time machine . Complaining that the newest tech isn't good enough for you just makes you sound like someone who was spoiled their whole life and still didn't enjoy it.

 

This come from a person with A M11x and a M17x? You said you want mobility,shouldnt your M11x be your mobility machine? Instead of having the M17x you can build your self a dream machine. Your argument doesn't make sense.

 

First, i'd like to answer micahmatthew : no , i was far from being spoiled all my life. Actually, i'm not that rich, i just use my student free time to work aside ( in Video games, also why i need some gaming at work ). I don't know if you realise that working hard to have ss and have coments like " you're spoiled " are not really kind.

Then , yes i have an M11X , but it's an R1. So yeah , it's still gaming capable, but did you imagine playing BF3 , Tera or GW2 on an R1 ? No it's not for that kind of purpose.

For me there's 2 kinds of mobility : going to a friend house for a whole day gaming by car is good, you can take your M17X without any troubles. But would you mind taking it , like for me to go to work with 45 min walking , subway + bus ? No. So i needed something smaller, and i have my M11X for 1y+ , for school with it's awesome battery.

Then , i got to deal with really bad things in my life atm, so i sold a few things with my old laptop i've already working hard to get to buy that brand new shiny laptop , and i must admit that i'm not pleased with it, the gap between desktop and laptop is still huge , even with high ends models.

 

A properly tweaked 7970M is pretty close to a 7950 in games, that's near desktop anyway.

If you wanted the best then a dual card system (M18x) was your best option with a 3720M (that is partially unlocked and runs at 3.8ghz) and a pair of 7970M cards.

 

nah he would still be complaining that its not as fast as a desktop 690 and has to deal with microstutters and needs proper driver updates for each game, etc

 

With tweaking the 7970M should hit 60fps at 1080p in battlefield 3 at ultra and FXAA.

Just because you don't know how to use what you have does not mean the designer is at fault.

 

I simply turn the graphics down to get better framerates. 5870m X-fire is still a pretty good setup, and do I really need to explain why I have a notebook?

 

is it possible someplace to buy just the Clevo P170EM "casing"? with no CPU, no ram, no HDDS, and no GPU installed? just the frame and motherboard?

 

Another thing you guys can try is google smaa...it's aa without much of a performance hit. Those that think an oc'ed 7970 is too slow in bf3 ultra, switch aa to fxaa or smaa

 

u wanna use the barebone with ur current components eh? check mythlogics HM to EM series upgrade plan, they swap all the components into the new shell and give u ur old shell back to sell for some extra cash

 

I don't get this now...

Some people say that the 7970M (single) can push out games such as Crysis (1, W & 2), BF 3, Witcher 2 etc at "maxed out" settings in a 1080p format at approximately 60fps comfortably whilst others say the opposite. We need some absolution and clarity here I believe. Is the 7970M more than capable or is a XFire needed in order to max out these games; members like myself may be receiving conflicting information.

 

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DJ, you want 60fps in Bf3 ultra? OC the card a little and switch MSAA to FXAA. Done.

 

So you think my temptation for an M18x R2 is unwarranted in order to get the Xfire? And the single card is MORE than enough for the immediate future until the next cards are released? Crysis 1, W and 2 are the games I want to play top spec the most - I generally detest first person shooters but those interest me and I've been waiting long enough LOL!

Also, I read in another thread that the console equivalent setting of BF3 was equal to that of the LOWEST setting on PC at a resolution much lower than 1080p is that really true?

BTW guys, whenever I ask anything of you it is ALWAYS appreciated. Education is something I strive for and I want to get the best out of my rig.

 

Im from europe so i cant use Mythlogic, it will cost me way to much in taxes!

Is it possible to just let them ship me a empty Clevo P170EM? then ill do all the work myself!

 

i feel u bro!

yeah you could sure ask them, i dont see why they couldnt/wouldnt maybe theyd even be willing to declare the barebone as warranty parts with a value of 30$ so u wouldnt have to pay such a high amount of taxes when receiving the package?

alternative routes would include ebay or maybe european clevo resellers? couldnt hurt to ask them

cheers

 

I was just saying that you are "acting" like you were spoiled; considering the best on the market still isn't satisfactory to you. I have no way of knowing whether you were or not I was just saying your attitude towards this is a little awkward; it's the best laptop GPU on the market; and the increase in performance this year in the mobile GPU market compared to the last 5 years is a much bigger increase/jump. So if it's still not good enough then you really just aren't happy with today tech; which is sad considering its INCREDIBLE and much more powerful than previous tech.

Also is it SMAA / MSAA? and do you have to download something for this or is it stock? I'm going to be playing BF3 on my P150EM when it arrives.

Really hyped on the 7970m and the P150EM in general; have been saving up for a long time; and waiting a long time also haha.

 

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If the 7970m isn't enough, then its time to go Crossfire. SLI isn't an option right now until the 680m comes out.

OR

The smartest thing to do is get a desktop. And even then, Nvidia 670 and up and Amd 7970 and up is what's needed. There's no point getting a gtx 560ti or gtx 570 / amd 7870 class card as a 7970m is exactly at that level...which is incredible for mobile

 

Thanks a ton! Does this work with Skyrim + BF3?

This + ENB + texture mods for Skyrim would rule.

And this would help BF3 run more fluidly

 

+rep for you

 

The 6990M runs BF3 fluidly at stock clocks with decent CPU OC let alone the 7970M lol. It did for me anyways even when I stuck everthing to max settings. I think peeps here are overestimating BF3 graphics..they ain't that good and certainly inferior to Crysis 2.

 

Only you can answer that question i.e., If you have the cash to spend, and you don't mind the size of the m18x

If you want ridiculous power then you need dual cards. But dual cards have their own issues, you can get micro-stutter and you are very dependant on driver support. Games that don't aren't supported will just run on a single card

Another option is to just upgrade the vid card to the next gen when it becomes available

With the 7970m, there is no need for this in Skyrim...it already gets like 80fps @ 1080p maxxed out

With BF3, shut off the in game AA and use SMAA. The in game FXAA is too blurry imo. SMAA by default is quite sharp but if you want to make it less sharp, you can adjust it in the cfg. The game flies with SMAA...

 

I'll take your word for it man, your advice is always sound - if the 680M is even better than 7970M I may be tempted. Saves faffing around with an 18" >.> Seriously though dude, is that simply from overclocking that games like BF2 and the Crysis series are pushing over 60fps, at 1080p, consistently at MAX settings on this card? Unbelievable if true, who needs desktops! :O

 

we don't need desktops anymore really. With a small OC to 950/1400, you essentially have performance at desktop 7870/ gtx 570 level already. So whatever those cards can do, you can do in this laptop

 

FXAA injector

It does make the game look more pleasant, enough choices to play the latest game on the highest settings with the card.

 

and the hit on performance is a fraction of what it would be with msaa!

 

Crysis 2 - PC GamePlay GTX 570 Max Settings DX11 [FullHD] Ultra Upgrade High res Texture - YouTube

So I should expect that ^ that sort of performance with a SOFT overclock you're saying? I'm new to the PC hardware game so it's all a bit daunting haha. Or have you quoted the highest stable overclock for the 7970m that you've recorded?

 

i can't view that vid until i get home, but i assume that game play is beautiful.

I can tell you, that Crysis 2 with high res texture pack installed ran great on my 7970m stock @ 1080p ultra. Two levels i played were incredibly smooth. With it overclocked, it will run even smoother

The highest stable clocks i can get on my card for most games is like 995core / 1480 vram...but for some games like BF3, it runs great for a while at those clocks then freeze. So i have to drop it to 975/1425.

however, for everyday gaming there is no need. 950/1400 is more than enough...and it also depends on the game. Right now, diablo 3 maxxed out @ 1080p, I'm getting 100+ fps with the 7970m stock. So no need to overclock at all. if i lock in vsync, the FPS counter is pegged at 60fps, essentially, it doesn't move lol

 

yes this is true! amazing right?

also Slickdude;

do you know if MSAA or FXAA add ons can get you kicked/banned in BF3/ D3?

 

hmmmm...dont' know. If this was the case, then there are many right now who are getting kicked lol (which isn't the case)

The smaa and fxaa injectors make BF3 look great compared to the stock AA...plus at virtually no performance hit.

if you are that concerned, post in a BF3 forum. There is no need for injection in D3 because the 7970m averages 100+ fps stock

 

But for D3 there is this thing.
Its a pixel shader not an Aliasing software/injector though hehe

Darker D3 Pixel Shader

and some people say it can get you kicked; i dont see how they would even know you are using it though; its post processing I believe.

But look how awesome it is O_O

 

Is that with just a miniscule overclock or with the maximum stable overclock (currently, due to drivers)?

 

that's like 10% OC, you can do 20% stable.

 

is the heatsink of 5870m from M17X R2 identical to 7970m's?

 

No, they're pretty different. 6990 heatsink is identical to the 7970m's.

 

Has anyone already received 7970m from upgradeyourlaptop?

 

yep,the guy who posted that they just received their gpu shipment. seems like he lives close by to their shop or smth

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What guy is that?