AMD 7970m available for buy

3dmark can now detect tessellation settings and flag any changes.

 

Anyone know which laptops besides alienware will have the 7970m?

 

omg this thing crushes any dx11 test like a joke!! seriously 81fps unigineheaven!!!

 

I don't think it would be wrong if there was full disclosure by the seller, so I agree with this twist. Full disclosure might be a discouragement to purchase for some and that might defeat the purpose of anyone with the intent to deceptively sell an old GTX 580M as a GTX 675M at a price higher than what a 580M would fetch. Honesty is the best policy. Misrepresentation and deceptive trade is for thieves and con men. NVIDIA sells the GTX 675M for what it is and publishes the specs, so buyers can connect the dots if they are not stupid. If you buy a 675M it's new, not a used piece of hardware with a modded vBIOS. If I were in the market for a used 580M, I'd rather pay substantially less for a stock card and mod it myself rather than roll the dice on something someone else had been messing with. I would not view their tinkering as adding value.

Yes, that's outstanding, especially considering tess is turned on. The 6970M/6990M were never able to handle tesellation very well, so that is a major improvement for an AMD GPU.

 

Hmm whats the 6990m score with the same settings? any member with 6990m can test it please at stock speed?
trying to see the difference between 6990m and 7970m

 

I cannot see the specs in notebookcheck but looks 37fps

 

lol so 7970m is more than twice as fast? and still faster than 6990 CF wth how can this be possible

 

With any DX11 tess test like unigine, it is more about Tesselation execution. So the 7970m may be a screamer, it isn't twice as fast the 6990m but it handles tess much better per calculation than the 6990m hence a better score. Basically, it will outperform the 6990m quite well in ordinary games and beat it by alot more in DX11 games.

 

Notebookcheck must be reading these forums, they've bumped the 7970M over the 680M and 580M SLI/6990M CFX.

 

Here is 6990M CrossFire Heaven benchmark at stock clock speeds.

 

seriously no idea but as Widezu is saying, it is not better than 6990m CF in gaming performance I believe (well, for games utilizing CF properly) but in tesselation test, it is a pure basher

 

You need to do 1280x1024 like slick dude to compare

 

Mr. Fox, how about you run your SLI 580M in Heaven 3.0 using the same settings?

 

is that stock???

 

I don't own a system with AMD CrossFire any more, so I cannot. That is an old screen shot that I had saved, so I cannot do that for comparison. However, SlickDude can crank up his resolution to 1920x1080 to compare.

Yes, it was stock. It was 6990M CrossFire (not 6970 as I originally posted). I had to check the date of my second system exchange to confirm it was 6990M.

 

I ran exact settings and got 917 yikes

Totally stock 6990m

 

About the flashing thing, I didnt try to raise any controversy here. Chill guys i dont intend to sell it but rather to put it in my cousin's MSI Since his only has a 460M.
But yeah thats more like a joke since I despised nVidia for such rebrand strategy and (rumored) not too great GTX 680M.

 

no offense bud, it was just our input for a bro of our beloved community

also if an person goes ahead and pulls the trigger on a 675m/580m, then he already lost

 

I don't even own a M17 anymore, but this thread is a ton of fun to read.

 

If only we could get confirmation on the TDP on the 7970m. Someone needs to measure

 

I'll have to download Heaven 3.0. I have Heaven 2.5. I'm not sure why the 7970M Heaven benchmark was not run at native 1080p resolution. However, I can tell you right now that this score is very similar to stock 580M SLI. I would like to see the 7970M Heaven benchmark run at the native M17x R3 display resolution.

The results with a single 7970M are really amazing. I'm impressed. But, I'm not ready to pull the trigger on buying AMD again. NVIDIA's display quality and driver reliability has been noticeably superior for me, so I'm sticking with my 580M SLI until all the cards are on the table from both companies. I don't care who wins, but I think it's too early to declare victory. My 6970M and 6990M CrossFire setups were incredible beasts, but that was not much good when the hardware crapped out repeatedly and the drivers were constantly buggy. So, I am being cautious, observing what happens, and will make an informed decision after both companies have their flagship products in circulation. Either way, it will be a dual-GPU setup... either CrossFire or SLI... when I do take the plunge. I also want to see how many hardware failures and issues there are with the next generation GPUs. I don't like rolling the dice too much when it comes to my hard earned cash, LOL. I've been burned by complete garbage from AMD and NVIDIA, so that's why I am not in a big hurry.

 

With 580M in SLI what more do you need -_-

It's R3 users that need the beastiest of beast GPUs since we can only have one... I'm impressed with the 7970M too, and I have to admit I wasn't expecting it to be that good.

 

I have 6990 at stock clocks

same settings except I have slower processor, dont know if it matters

 

Ok the only reason I don't wanna buy a clevo is becuase i heard its fan noises are obnoxious...since the 7970m will be keplar, will it lower the fan noise? ----less energy less heat etc. And is the clevo's fan noise as bad as everyone says?

 

^^^not sure I understand that question. NVIDIA is releasing Kepler, not AMD. You should buy an Alienware system, man. This is an Alienware forum.

That's a good point. But, there's no such thing as too much power, or too much speed. The 7970M exceeded what I was expecting, too. I am eager to see how it does in CrossFire. Q2 and Q3 are going to be very interesting.

 

Alienwares are a few hundred dollars over priced IMO. And they look like space ships with ridiculous lights on them... Clevo's simple design is awesome and the new backlit keyboards are very slick.

I am super curious about the 7970m though; and the fan noise of the Clevo's. I want 7970m and Ivy BRidge 3610 so bad!!!

 

LOL, they are the last place one would want to check technical details anyway

 

I don't think they're really that overpriced. Up until the new Clevos, AW had way more features. Clevo has finally caught up a lot with the backlit keyboard and Optimus for high end Nvidia cards, but AW still has the HDMI input, better keyboard, and manual graphics switching for AMD cards.

Looks are subjective, so I won't bring that up.

 

OK, this is an Alienware forum, so you can expect disagreement with your opinions here. Some of us think plastic Clevo systems are super blah looking and their warranty service basically draws air at high velocity. If you're on a tight budget and the most you can afford is a Clevo, that's one thing. But, you get what you pay for in the long run. No other manufacturer can touch the Dell/Alienware warranty. We love our space ships with lights on them, so remember whose house you are visiting, LOL. That said, you're still a welcomed guest in this house. Nobody wants to to be told their baby is ugly.

 

Cool I don't think the CPU matters on this bench looks like 7970M=6990MCF then

 

I agree. This benchmark is more GPU bound than it is CPU bound. I also agree that 7970M=6990MCF seems to be a fairly accurate assessment.

I remember when the R3 was released with the 6970M and performance was very similar to the R2 with 5870CF.

 

Honestly, anyone with a 580m/6990m and especially with a duel card setup doesn't really NEED to upgrade. I mean the results are impressive and everything, but in reality there is nothing the top end cards can't run at basically max 30+ FPS. Adding some more FPS is nice I guess, but there really isn't anything out there that isn't playable now that would be with that much more performance.

I also agree with you on the drivers, I have really enjoyed my Nvidia card and the Verde drivers and all the cool features (adaptive AA really is incredible). I would be very hesitant to go AMD without seeing Nvidia's offering. Though I am not considering an upgrade anyway, since the majority of my games run at the VSync rate, and the few that run under 60 are still well over 30 and very smooth with adaptive AA.

If I was buying a new laptop now I would definitely wait for Ivy and at least some confirmed 680m benchmarks.

 

I know the quality on AW computers is very high; I just don't enjoy the look of them. I like simplistic blah looks, especially because I have to use it at school and work where having a bunch of lights etc. would look unprofessional.

The warranty and quality is great though; I dont doubt that. They are beast computers; just not for me, especially on my budget.

 

You realize you can turn the lights off right?

 

Fair enough, micah. We're still NBR friends. *group hug*

 

Some of us like you are satisfied when the game simply is able to run fluently. But others want as much FPS or details as possible, it is not your place to tell them not to.

 

My Alienware makes me look more professional, shows that I use/have more style in my work.. Everyone knows that shiiieee7 is serious
Guess it's a bit like the car you drive, the watch you wear, etc.

Clevos lol

The only place you'll hear bad things about our alien technology is online.. On an Internet forum.

/fanboy (true though)

But yeah, 7970M is shining too well! There must be a catch! Hoping it easily overclocks an extra 120-150Mhz

 

Certainly, I am not telling anyone anything. Just pointing out that anyone with a top end card can't really claim they NEED this card. They may want it, and if they have the $$$ to spend then go for it, but this card won't do anything but add FPS above a current top end card, and with VSync FPS stops mattering beyond 60.

Does anyone know if you buy a new card through Dell does your warranty cover it?

 

I agree, Yoda. I won't "need" to upgrade for gaming for probably 2 more years. I might want to upgrade for chasing benchmark scores, which I enjoy about as much as I do gaming. Benching would be the only reason to upgrade... to chase numbers. I'll use as much restraint as I can, because I truly hate spending money even though I like what spending it gets me.

I think so. I would send a PM to one of the Dell/Alienware reps (Federico may be your best bet) in our forum to ask, because you will get a bazillion different answers, and probably most of them wrong, if you call the folks that want to sell you a new system. In fact, the folks in Tech Support can sell you upgrades, so I would talk with them instead of someone in sales.

 

I had the 580m but BF3 exceeded the card abilities. You can't run BF3 on a 580m maxed. In fact even at reduced settings I could go under 30 fps regularly, not to mention hit the 78C throttle if water reflections were on. The 580m is good enough for many but this stuff is a hobby, people will always want and find a way to use more power.

Just out of curiosity I ran Heaven on my non-OC 2500k and 6850. I got 71fps and a score of 1700ish. Not bad for a $120 GPU.

 

To be honest. If I had all the money in the world. I would have one M17x R3 3D capable which means it would be nvidia. And I would get a P150EM with an AMD card. I would use both in different situations. For showing off I'd of course use the R3 but say if I was going on a business trip that required me to use my laptop and maintain a certain level of professionalism I may prefer the certain subtlety of the Clevo design.

 

where do you buy it?

 

Dude, you're gonna spend $1500 on a Sager anyways...a few more hundred gets you an alienware. You can shut off the lights if you don't want the spaceship look. BUt by a large margin, Alienwares have superior cooling and if you've ever had to deal with Sager warranty, you'd know what i'm talking about...Anyways like Mr fox said...our opinions here are tainted lol

Here you go Mr Fox...essentially xfire 6990

 

Wow 6990M CF is just like 3 fps faster lol

 

Damn those scores look impressive. Rendering DX11 @60fps?! Awesome sauce to say the least! Nvidia better pull it out of the bag or I'm jumping ship.

 

You better get prepared to jump

 

But I'm currently tied I'm on 3D and the way the M17x R3 mobo is wired, it will not accept non nvidia cards

 

Trade in and get the R4! XD but seriously I wonder what is the performance overclocked! Crossfire'd!

 

So there is no way to run AMD even forcing 60hz ?

 

Nah because the AMD signal is routed through the LVDS port which goes through the iGPU even if you turn it off in the bios. The 120Hz display uses the eDP port which the Sandy Bridge iGPUs can't push. Its almost a paradox. I'll have to wait until the is non-fuzzy reliable GTX 680m figures before making up my mind. However, Dell are offering me a replacement the next time my GPU dies.