AMD 7970m available for buy

Nvidia has almost always been more expensive than AMD. I don't see those prices changing considering you can get a single 7970m for less than $500. 580m still goes for more than that right? Used to be like $800 for a single 580m.

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Here i made this pic at the day Dell was launching the m17x r4. After a couple of hours the 7970m disappeared in the technical description and in the configure list.

 

The 50 euros more in europe would only be $66 more. I think they are trying to make bank just because its the newest card. If the card costs them less it should be reflected in the price to consumers. Alienware still charges $150 less for the 7970m than the GTX 675.... I asked the reseller if they would match the price of Alienwares 7970m, if they do I'm buying ASAP.

 

configed one m17x for giggles in the weekend, the 7970m is still there

 

I just confirmed with upgradeyourlaptop that the cards are Clevo OEM. From what I've read in this thread that is bad.

Would you consider it a deal breaker?

 

Slick man!

Fans for the 7970M GPU are running properly right? Just like a proper native GPU would run in the Alienware. No need to control the fans using HWinfo or anything else correct?

So far no odd anomalies or glitches right? All good having fun benching and gaming there oles!?

Cheers.

 

The only thing i am worried about its fan speed indeed...

 

I might just have to get a pair
From what we have gathered the Clevo's should be good for M17x R2 Alienwares. (automatic fan control) Right up DR's alley!
I wonder how theses would go with F@H?

Have you got a link to them on ebay or somewhere?
Main site or alternative? Thanks.

Cheers.

 

Not if you consider yourself an avid overclocker. We are only commenting that generally speaking Clevo cards are not as good at OCing as Dell cards.

Otherwise, the card should perform the same.

 

Nope, some just prefer Dell. No-one ever said Clevo is bad, they just don't overclock as well.

Clevo work much better on the R2 from what I have seen.

 

Why do Clevo cards not OC as well? Do they use different hardware somewhere within the GPU???

 

From the recent track record with 6970m/6990m's they've come with Samsung memory chips which meant that the memory hit a wall much earlier than Dell cards which come with Hynix chips. The core is all the same because AMD manufacture them. OEM's are responsible for the PCB and memory etc

 

There's a guy on forums named Yiddo he overclocked his Clevo 6990M to 850 core for everyday's gaming and its stable... with my dell 6990M i cant go higher than 800mhz on core for stable 5+ hours of gaming...

 

Not read what widezu said?

All cores are different, but the Samsung memory chips that Clevo used for their AMD cards were pretty poor.

I took my Clevo 6990M to 870 on the core, lol, but the memory let it down. I'll say it once more: if you're gaming it doesn't matter, but if you're benchmarking it will matter a lot. However, we have still to find what parts Clevo will use for the 7970M.

 

It could depend card to card how well they manufactured it. I don't think the different memory could have that huge of an effect, maybe 10% or so. But really you could get lucky and have a better made card than someone else.

 

my ES hits 855 core before it decides to quit working (haven't messed with the memory yet). Like geo said though, Overclocking fluctuates from card to card.

 

All the cores are the same because AMD manufacture them. It's the memory that I'm talking about.

 

For the sake of argument, let's say there are differences in avg OC headroom between Dell and Clevo cards, and that the OC we're talking about here is on the GPU, not memory. In this case, there are three possible culprits: 1) binning i.e. Dell gets better chips, 2) The PCBs are somehow different 3) the bioses are different

 

Oh, and just if somebody still don't know the TDP of 7970m.

Official info -100Watt

 

Hmm, I wonder if it's worth me selling my 6990s and 5870's for...without 5870's I'd lose warranty... decisions decisions... Was really hoping for a lower TDP.

 

Sorry for the noob question - but why? Are you worried about the temperatures or the power requirements? Aren't there "easy" fixes for both scenarios?

 

you run into System throttling as the cards can draw to much power at full load with an overclocked CPU.

 

Running a 940XM and 6990s (M17x R2) requires and undervolt on the GPUs, but if the 7970's had a lower TDP, it would push the 240W PSU far less, allowing for more overclocking room. Temps, are not really a concern, at least not till we can test them out.

I guess the question becomes, do the new cards require a new heatsink? Or are the memory/core placed similiarly to the previous gen cards.

 

I'm assuming the placement is similar as slick replaced his 6990m with the 7970m pretty easily from what I have read.

 

Ahh gotcha. I'll have to look for that

 

right, that's my main question.
as of right now, my cpu cannot be pushed at all above 70tdp, any higher and i start to get power cuts due to over-draw.

if the newer cards are faster AND less strain on the psu, i may consider it worth the investment.

 

Right, thanks guys for clearing that up. I'd rep you all but am not allowed - quit helping out so much.

xeroxide - A single 6970M is 100W, right? If you replaced your 2 6970s with a single 7970 @100W, you could then push your CPU TDP higher?- that's what you mean by worth the investment?

{{{noob question #2 - is there no way to get a more powerful PSU for an AW lappy?}}}

 

Here you go bro:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...8185-amd-7970m-vs-gtx-680m-3.html#post8460328

The fans are running no faster than they did with the 6990m

And in case you were wondering, the fan works perfect...just as in the 6990m. NO ISSUES WITH THE EC

My card is a final QS version...essentially OEM. But its 100%...comes with hynix vram that will OC another 20-25%

 

What does throttle means? why is it so bad?

 

i am in the same situation.
my 5870m lies in a chest, and 6970m in my R2.
i've extended my warranty, and i think, it is not worth throwing it out...

how much can we get for 5870m ? 150$?? ...............couple of beers, chips......150 gone

throttling happens when your laptop parts are using more energy (EG. while playing games) than the power adapter can deliver , or, laptop parts/bios/vbios limits power that can be deliverd to your parts eg VGA/CPU, when this happens, ''parts'' are ''slowing down'' to sustain stability OR to ''protect'' your system from damage or to ''stay within the manufacturer specs''

You can

A- buy bigger power adapter or
B- undervolt the parts

to avoid throttling - overall system slowing

 

I always keep everything that is tied to my warranty. When I upgraded ram, to SSDs, CPU etc. Even if it means I don't cover some expenditure, I play it safe in the event that I have to send my laptop off.

 

Have you tried BF3 with the new card? What kind of performance increase did you see?

 

BF3 1080p, ULTRA, 4xmsaa = 50+fps with fraps

I can get fluid 60fps, but i'd have to drop the AA to 2x

 

To be honest, the AA in BF3 sucks. What you need is Medium Post AA and 2x deffered. Best picture quality in my opinion. High Post AA blurs too much, and 4x MSAA is no different to 2x and eats the frames.

Try that Slick. I bet you'd be rocking 60-70fps with those settings

 

This is way too goooood. I am giggling inside

 

@Geo, I know where you live. A few hours train journey and I'll break into your house and steal the 7970m the night that you receive it. Mwahahahaha

 

I want it in my lappy already!!! oh this is the worst wait ever

 

Does anyone have a good source to preorder these monsters? I've heard of upgradeyourlaptop but I'd like to stay away from Clevo OEM if possible.

 

i've already preordered from ''upgradeyourlaptop''

my 6970m from them works great, nothing against.

 

can u give me the link pls???

 

I think he did it by talking/emailing, it is not listed among their items, right flingin?

 

True, contact trough ebay

 

According to notebookcheck you get 24FPS with those settings with a 580M

mkay

 

with my 6990m OCed 820/1050 i get 30-40fps in Bf3 on Ultra settings 2Msaa, 1080p. 4msaa brings it done to 25-30fps.

 

Guys just to iterate. There is no reason to avoid Clevo cards unless you are an extreme overclocker/bencher. They will perform fine and also OC decently. There is nothing "wrong" with them.

 

I just Want it to come out within the next 2 weeks I need to play d3 on release. If not I'll be sad. Did a setup on powernotebooks for 1590 with 3610 and 750GB hybrid drive, and 7970m and 8GB 1600MHz RAM . But ETA is may 21

 

Why not buy an alienware instead? I heard rumors that Alienware have a deal with AMD to be the only company that can deliver setups with 7970M in May

EDIT: Oh Powernotebooks sell Alienware too huh

Tomorrow

 

D3 was working ok on single 5870M, i know, becouse i've played d3 with this card in my R2 atm

Constant 60 fps with drops to 30 in heavy mob packs.

To the Freezer then !!!

 

With the same setup aw will charge about 2200... also they don't , clevo dealers have the same ETA of may 21

 

It was shipping before May 21 if you have ordered it day1 when it was just announced

But more orders = delay for late orders, try to call them