AMD 7970m available for buy

i find it dificult to believe the 7970m is twice as fast as 6990m. it's specs do not suggest it.

19% on the mhz and 14% more shaders. theoretically a 33% increase in fps, not 100% increase.

m18x with 6990m at 825 core xfire;

EDIT below; ran the bench after resuming from sleep state so drivers are finicky, re-ran it after reboot.

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Argh, die shrink + completely different architecture than the 5000 and 6000 series GPU's( the tessellation numbers really emphasis this). an m15x owner also has very similar results with 7970

 

The 7970M is 150MHz on the core from being a full blown desktop 7870. Look up some 7870 benches. It destroys the 6870, and the 6990M is a downclocked version.

 

still dont believe it. the price structure does not suggest this, either.

last true generational leap in notebook world was with 8800m gtx.

 

not anymore im thinking. even the resellers are agreeing with numbers. and I sure trust slickdude and table21 who both have numbers and confirmations in 2 different machines

 

lol...you GOT me. I'm making all this stuff up.

Seriously, you have trouble believing the benchmarks at stock clocks? Just wait till there is some app and driver support and i'm able to overclock this beast...and the 7970m actually beats your Xfire system...you'd think there was a conspiracy or something

Anyways, i ain't Jesus, I don't work on faith...2 forum members here will be receiving their 7970's this week. There will be some correlation of the facts soon enough

EDIT: Table21, another member on this forum is scoring 5300 3dmark11's with a last gen i7, and i've seen another bench of a 5400 3dmark11. Notebookcheck has rated the 7970m above xfire 6990's and SLI 580m

ITS A FREAKING CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU!!

 

Sir. It scores a 21,000 Vantage GPU score. A ~5500 3DMark11 GPU score.

28nm is the next generational leap.

It's hard to accept that your M18x is suddenly outdone by a single mobile card. Is that it? Are you experiencing shrinkage?

 

11% faster core, 14% more shaders. theoritcally 25% performance increase.

desktop 6870 vs 7870

AnandTech - Bench - GPU12

BF3 maxxed at 1080p sees a 31% increase

crysis warhead bench maxxed at 1080p sees a 31% increase.

at least by these two important gaming benchmarks performance is inline with the paper specs.

 

You point being?

Look Slick got the card from Area 51 where Dell has been sneaking random bits of tech from the aliens for their Alienware range. I know because I shot JFK with the camera I filmed the moon landings with after I paid the royal family to have Diana killed

Anyways back on topic who here wants to see The Beaver get himself a 60Hz screen and a shiny 7970m to play with?

 

i think the beaver needs one!. this nutty woman wants 2 in an m18x

 

widezu...you know you wanttttt it

 

I want 2 in my R2!

 

Me me me! since im sure you will try to crank up the card as much as you can

 

no need to get hostile, children!

desktop 6870 xfire handily defeats a single gtx 580. even xfire 6850 puts out more fps than the 580. desktop 580 is faster than 7970m.

AnandTech - Bench - GPU11

i'll stand by my analysis that 7970m is roughly 30% faster than 6990m unless some actual game benchmarks come in (or since its early how about some good old youtube video proof that it's twice as fast as 6990m in games?) or gets professionally reviewed.

 

Its for this very reason I have decided not to go for 3D in my replacement laptop that due from Dell shortly. Nvidia is not more the Nvidia it was once. There is a lot of subtle manoeuvring by them to hype up their product performance. At least AMD is a lot more sober.

 

waay too much trouble. Anyways, its officially released tomorrow...you'll get your benches from reputable websites

 

dude, you will be so wrong soon enough

I think what's happening is this, amd has crazy good mid range desktop chips (which are becoming our high end mobile chips = 7970m), and for this gen nvidia is tackling efficiency crown with low voltage chips (like 640m 650m) and performance crown with 680, neither are the cards we need actually, therefore amd looks like it will take mobile gaming crown this gen.. (this is a very flawed and nonsense analysis, but still something )

anyway, Slick is showing very very well a stock 7970m IS better than crossfire 6990m in benches, and looks like in the games as well, which crossfire system can pull of 60fps maxed bf3 (on STOCK)?

 

looks like several of you guys will be getting 7970's in the very near future...some of you as early as tomorrow.

So i've decided to write an install guide. Will be up tomorrow No point you going through 6 hrs like i did lol

 

that would have been 6 days for me +rep forever

 

Have you tried 12.5 catalyst?

Offtopic: why you have changed your 2920XM on 2820QM?

 

^^ preparation for ivy bridge?!! Slick, you got serious intel from Dell, did you hear of a bios update or anything??

 

lol...thnx bro. Now lets get you up and running!

If you want the 7970m to work, you need at least a heavily modded 12.4. i'm using a modded 12.5. The stock 12.5 might work out of the box, but i'm not touching my computer right now. It works and we'll leave it at that lol

The 2920xm is a fun CPU. I had my fun, overclocked it, ran some benches, but i hated the heat. I hated monitoring it. The m17x's aren't really meant to handle the heat that the 2920 brings. You can do it, but regularly hitting high 80's celsius, and 90's was a headache for me

The 2820 runs cold and requires zero maintenance and is almost as fast stock.

I figure its time for someone else to have fun with it

no, no special intel. I just don't want to continually worry about temps. Just waiting for the paypal to clear, its sold lol

AND...i'm pretty sure it will take more than a bios update for IVY...you'll need the h77 chipset...we run h67's in the R3

 

oh the crappy heat, it produces a bloody furnace in 5 minutes...

 

I agree the 7970m is incredible, but Arhhh has a valid point. 100% increase on two benchmarks (heaven & mark11) do not necessarily correlate to a 100% increase across the board. I haven't looked at the anabdtech benches, but if they show 30% between a desktop 6870 and 7870 that may be closer to the real truth.

Still Slickdude is correct, there will be plenty of proof soon. Still I have no doubt his benches are valid, I don't see a respected member squandering his rep for a few days of e-fame.

 

SlickDude, can you point me - where i can buy it today at 24th april?

 

glad to see you got everything working slick. Sad to hear about the 2920xm though, doesn't seem like the ivy bridge will be any better thermal wise anyway.

 

LOL...i didn't do this for e-fame. I'm just known as "that guy" or "or some guy got these many 3dmarks". Hardly famous. I already have enough rep...dont' really need more

and, i never claimed you would get 100% more fps. I've only showed what my computer with a 7970m produced on those benches

This is what i have got through fraps ... it's hardly scientific nor empirical, but i'm impressed:

Skyrim (1080p, ULTRA, 4xaa, 16xaf)
walking around Skyrim countryside at 75+ fps
walking around Skyrim White Run 70-80 fps

BF3 ULTRA 4xmsaa 1080p 50+fps

The witcher 2...1080p, everything on except uber sampling...50+fps

hmmmm, your best bet is eurocom. My connection is sold out

i tried it and it was fun...now its sold. But with the money, it more than paid for my 7970m. As far as gaming goes, i'd rather have the vid card so this is a happy time, not sad lol...and i have enough left over to take my wife out to Mortons steakhouse (so she doesnt get pissed at me for spending so much on computer parts lol)

 

sorry, WHAT?!!!!

Slick! Do you have Crysis2 on that machine, can you try it?? I am willing to bet it will go +50fps with high res textures + dx11 + ultra

man, you are a lucky guy, if I mention steak to my gf, she would destroy me... and your wife accepts it for apology! win-win

 

Lol guess its a win then. I could sell my 6990m for some money, not sure what I could get for it though.

 

hmmmm, coming up. I'll just play through a level and see

EDIT: just played through 10 mins...Crysis 2, high res texture pack installed, DX11, ULTRA

Grazzt, it was fluid!! Don't know the name of the level but my objective was:

defend Airlift Evac site:
Hold back the Ceph attack

never dropped below 40fps...normally between 45-53 fps

 

560 TI before i upgraded in my desktop was only getting 35~ with the same setup all on expect uper in 1080p, i remember i needed to disable some stuff AO-Bloom etc to get 40~

and for reference (it's 1920x1200p though, not 1920x1080p so pretty close)

 

This was the mieletes heart (sp?) mission. Walking around the town, and outside the walls, killing a few monsters while running around the forest.

Never dropped below 45fps. Everything enabled except uber sampling

my method is hardly scientific, but its hard to compare to those benches cause we don't know what they did in the test

Is there a standardized Witcher 2 test? i'd love to compare some results

 

I updated my post with reference cards picture, never dropping below 45 is so nice, reasons why i had to disable few stuff because on GTX 560 ti dropping below 30 was not rare at all when you max out things, 35 was the average, maximum was 45 randomly walking/etc with drops to 2x~

Looking at the chart i posted, you are not missing much power compared to the Best cards available on desktops right now.

 

thats crazy! This is history in the making @.@

 

Long, i see your sig...congratz lol

MAN, you guys all owe me big

 

meh I keep going and forth between selling my current system and grabbing a decent r4 or just sticking with this system, selling the 6990m, and grabbing a 7970m when they come out. oh the choices.

 

Slick, if your ever out west, steaks are on us!! so is the brew

 

right now I dont see any reason to get the R4...yet

 

well i could get the 1080p screen, 6gigs of ram, Ivy Bridge(when it comes out), better wireless card, 750gb HD, and of coarse the 7970m for around $1770.96. I think i could sell my current rig for around 1600 or so. idk just a thought, not doing anything for at least a little bit.

 

oh yeah i forgot you have the dreaded 1600x900 screen , my bad.

yeah I know. I actually ordered one from upgradeyourlaptop but as soon as I got your "intel" I canceled that one and get this since I do prefer Dell cards . And ETA is either Thursday or the next Tuesday, so finger crossed

Hey I would rep you again as soon as I can lol, how about free massage? No one can resist free massage right? =)

 

holy mother of... that level is IMPOSSIBLE to get fluid fps because of all fog / night everywhere... this is insane, INSANE

Tony, if you wanna do it, do it now buddy! otherwise seriously, the second hand market will get very tidy looking to the prices of new machines.. but I don't think you need it, just up the GPU and you are done, SB is already good enough to carry us without bottlenecking for the next 2-3 years (if you are not doing MATLAB or something)

 

graz'zt you preorderd videocard from upgradeyourlaptop?

 

wOO ALREDY HAVE 800 dOLARS WATING THE GTX 680M AND LETS SEE WICH IS BETTER THE 680M OFR 7970M

WILL THE IVY BRIDGE WILL SUPPORTS THE R3?

 

Here is somewhat of a semi-official article on the 28nm 7000M release (NOTE: NEEDS TO BE TRANSLATED)

AMD lanceert nieuwe Radeon HD 7000 GPU's voor laptops | Hardware.Info Nederland

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Looks to be all high end XT (xx70M) for now...

EDIT: Techpowerup.com has a small article on the 7900M

http://www.techpowerup.com/164717/AMD-Launches-its-Radeon-HD-7900M-Series-Mobile-Discrete-GPUs.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/164715/Eurocom-Adds-Radeon-HD-7900M-GPUs-to-its-Portfolio.html

 

thanks for the link and the nice read +rep (when allowed)

edit: looks like their numbers are very similar to slicks numbers.

 

EVEN BETTER?!! did you notice 23k vantage????

but their fps benches are ridiculous, which 6990m can do 70 fps on metro 2033?? even oc'ed overvolted can it be possible??

 

maybe everything on low lol

 

yea i saw that vantage score, looks like this card is capable of some crazy stuff. As to the rest of the benches, I'm not sure what settings they used. Maybe they used all low settings or something?

Edit: "In the table below, which comes from the press kit from AMD, you see the frame rates associated with these games and the scores in 3DMark."

looks like its AMD's numbers and not the reviewers

 

I was dumb enough to call Dell for a 7970m card.

They were like...buy the machine and you'll get the card.

 

sadly thats the case. I'd look around here on the NBR market place or Ebay if you are really looking at getting one.

Just gotta give Another shout out to slick for his testing. I have seen links to this thread at overclock.net and a few other places. Great job once again my friend.