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    CF 5870s on Dell US Website!!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Achilleus, May 17, 2010.

  1. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    So drake, did you order?
     
  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Yes. I figure the worst that can happen is a 3rd return.
     
  3. LE25

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    any rumors on eyefinity, I searched but no answer..
     
  4. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    on notebook check they say 6 displays
    Welcome back :D
     
  5. lordqarlyn

    lordqarlyn Global Biz Consultant

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    well you know they say the 3rd time's a charm...
     
  6. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Nice, I put in my order as well. Only took 4 months.
     
  7. Mandrake

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    For those that like seeing these....

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Quite a simple setup for a tech wiz like your, no? Pretty much the sage as mine with the exception if color and hdd.
     
  9. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah I'll end up doing my own upgrades.
     
  10. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    anyone has the part number for the US keyboard?
     
  11. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    So why the 720 rather than the i5? Not planning on keeping it long? :p
     
  12. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I figure that has a better resale value if and when the time comes.
     
  13. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Hmm, now you got me thinking... Although I'm not planning on reselling it, but maybe in a few years.
     
  14. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Nobody ever plans on selling right away. The problem is when the next new shiny toy comes out you need to be prepared. ;)
     
  15. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Good point, I do like shiny toys. Email sent of to dell. 720 under a 3yr warranty sounds much better than a 520 / 3yr warranty. Epsecially since people buying alienware probably want more than a 520.
     
  16. dave-p

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    I will hold out for FERMI....but it is tempting.
     
  17. Aikimox

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    Dunno about the resale value
    (especially when 740/840/940 are almost here and AMD is on fire entering the notebook segment, finally) but there's one important plus in having a 520M - extremely low temps.
    I have a room temp of 30C :eek: and with no coolerpad my CPU doesn't even get above 65C during gaming. 720 got above 75C a few times.
     
  18. Aristotelhs2060

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    guys anyone knows if a machine without bluetooth has the bluetooth cable anyway?

    on my broken m17x r1 the wireless and bluetooth cables look like one bound cable.
     
  19. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Most gamers want the quad core over the dual core. It's a psychological thing. ;) The newer processors are irrelevant for the moment.
     
  20. CUELLARM

    CUELLARM Notebook Consultant

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    So the new processor break the mold, so in actuality we are starting from square one with gaming, but in reference to benching it is still good to have a higher quad based processor since those benching tools still favor faster quads.
     
  21. Mandrake

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    There's no straight answer for this. Since these procs will carry the same TDP they may not even be an advantage for benchmarking over the current quads. As far as quad vs dual it really depends on the benchmark just like gaming.

    The new processors coming out are minor upgrades compared to the Sandy Bridge release next year. I already did some benchmarks with the 920XM @3.8Ghz on all four cores. The proc was reporting a TDP of 110W when I did this. Unless the 940XM ran at faster speeds with a lower TDP the increase will be minimal in some systems and non-existent in others.
     
  22. CUELLARM

    CUELLARM Notebook Consultant

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    so even a I5-520m can compliment a CF 5870 set up and not be the bottle neck in the set up. sorry for being the n00b with all my 1st grade questions.
     
  23. Mandrake

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    Absolutely. The differences would be measurable with benchmarking tools, rarely would you see them in actual game play.
     
  24. Aristotelhs2060

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    yes i add to this. gpus are the most important thing for gaming. then cpus. and except from benchmark or fps 4870s wont have any difference to 5870s for a normal to slightly advanced user. all of us here we think ourselves benchmarkers or something and we want the latest thus losing the real meaning of everything.
     
  25. Aikimox

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    Lol, wrong! The latest is the meaning of everything! ;)
     
  26. CUELLARM

    CUELLARM Notebook Consultant

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    the only reason for me to move to the 5870's would be to have a more sustained higher frames per second and stability for those hard to maintain action scenes in games running at 1200p.
     
  27. Aristotelhs2060

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    Dell exists for people like you. just dont influence people who dont have your money.

    you will have this already. just try them.
     
  28. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Lol, I was kidding. Look at my sig, I got the R2 only because it was a free replacement. :(
     
  29. CUELLARM

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    so did I, Im not paying for another unit.
     
  30. Mandrake

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    The reason to go to a 5870 is DX11 support. Hard to justify 2 of them unless you like to benchmark.
     
  31. Tristan

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    So you're saying a single 5870 is fine? Huh...
     
  32. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    A single 4870 is fine for most of the games, surely 5870 is enough ;)
     
  33. Aristotelhs2060

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    same reason as in my case. i want to see what this dx11 is finally and if there is any observable difference. even though i am sure i wont see any difference i am also curious.

    the cf selection is because if i want to use the 1900x1200 resolution to see the details of this dx11 then i must use dual mobile gpu graphics. if i was on desktop the single 5870 would outperform dual mobile 5870s
     
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    Can't wait until the day that the desktop and mobile cards are similar in performance.

    Actually maybe one day there won't be anymore desktops...
     
  35. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    That day is now :p

    I just dont l like the clunky un-portable-ness of desktops.
     
  36. Joebarchuck

    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah I get you but I am sure they are still selling plenty of desktop or they would not make new ones where they spent millions in developing the chassis, cooling system, manufacturing lines, etc...
     
  37. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    of course. A desktop is just more powerful than most current notebooks, no denying that.


    Soon we'll all have omni-tools so we wont need desktops :D
     
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    There almost here in Australia.

    We have GDDR5 4870s lolololol

    [​IMG]
     
  40. Joebarchuck

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    This must be a typo... I thought Dell was not shipping any DDR5 4870's.

    Anyone know if on the R2 you need the modded drivers for catalyst or you can just install the ones from ATI's website?
     
  41. Malignant

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    lol so I originally had 7 day shipping which put my estimated delivery date at 6/18/10 so then I called dell to get NBD which they did and now my shipping is next business day but it only shaved off 2 days so now my estimated delivery date is 6/16/10 which is a Sunday.

    Oh and the rep said he expects my notebook to ship next week lol.. based on the information he had.
     
  42. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ahhhhhh, so you caved into 'peer' submission! GO DRAKE!

    (I was considering the exact same config...... hmmmm, should I?)

    LOL!

    :D :D :D
     
  43. Joebarchuck

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    I wonder until which point Dell can restrict PC purchase from someone that has returned too many PC's.

    For example, I am not able to return a PC at Costco anymore, they officially warned me by letter after my 9th return in 2 years which is crazy because I bought over 20 PC. Not all got returned. (It was work related...)
     
  44. Tristan

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    Do it! Join the addiction!
    wow. Thats a lot of computers. Did you use each one for something specific? Or just resale/taking components?
    My dad has a home desktop, work laptop, photography laptop, and dozens of hard drives just laying around, a little similar to your past situation, no?
     
  45. Joebarchuck

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    No, I bought a lot for employees that I had working for me at the time. I bought cheap stuff that would not always work and had to return a lot of them.
     
  46. Mandrake

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    If I were you I would do it since you never had one. Since Dell's return policy is lenient it's worth trying to see if it's something you like.

    There are youtube video's out there showing you the difference between DX10 and DX11. Check them out.
     
  47. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    The addiction? I have had that for YEARS...... but now I at least admit it, so I am TRYING to stave-off the itch right now. Besides, one of my new DX11 i7 DT's (w/ new HD mon - WOOT!) arrives tommorow, so that should distract me for a day or two.

    PLEASE, do not tempt me further! PLEASE! I BEG YOU!

    (I WILL NOT SURCOME TO PEER PRESSURE...... I WILL NOT SURCOME TO PEER PRESSURE...... I WILL NOT SURCOME TO PEER PRESSURE...... !!!)


    :D :D :D
     
  48. Mandrake

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    Yeah one of the negatives to getting this is lack of support to drive 120Hz monitor. I will try to see if I can get it to work again.
     
  49. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'll tell ya what, how about I hold off for now, and wait till I read your reviews? Sound like a winner?

    :)
     
  50. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Ahhh...just give in. I would if the 940XM was out. :)
     
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