M17x lcd

Not true. I returned my M17 between 1-2 weeks after I received it, and was still charged the fee.

 

Let me know when you get it to work and I'l try it.

 

Lol if i had cash to burn i would be more then happy to give it a whirl but sadly i am not that person . if i had money to just toss around like that i would have already ordered the machine no questions asked .

i want to make sure i am making the right purchase here as i have owned WAY to many laptops over the years and been stung a few times in the process.

Good thing though either way if im not happy and i do have to return ill take the 15% hit if need be vs living with something i dont like.

I was torn between this and the M98nu Sager, but at this point i cant see a reason to go with the Sager over the Alienware. The alienware is just to beautiful with to many features i want (just hope they get to the bottom of this screen scenario soonish).

 

then maybe you did not read the fine print.
i had a 30 day satisfaction guaruntee in my paperwork should i have chosen to use it.
all that was required was to pay the freight and insurance if sent back after getting the RMA.

sometimes if you dont read they will take advantage of the situation.

 

IMO the question will be are they going to charge a restocking fee for item that may or may not be as advertised. I am sure there are many legal loop holes they can attempt, the question will be how far are you willing to take it. I for one, will not let it stand, but I am fortunate to have a brother that is a business/corp lawyer so my cost is minimal. All big Corps are counting on the consumer not wanting to pursue a complaint of any kind, but this may be all be for not if it turns out it is a 2 bulb ccfl and is just a crappy screen, I don't know yet as I am still in boxing so i have not seen it with my own eyes. Hopefully we will find that out soon and zfactor can track it down. By the way ty zfactor for your effort.

 

Wow, that seems really underhanded... I was just going by this, from their site:

I guess I should have taken that the fee "may" be deducted as literal as possible? God, I can't even believe that... I feel like I've been horribly duped... all that money gone, for nothing? Jesus.

Guess this just goes to show how naive I can still be. Ugh.

 

some times if its for a very good reason or you annoy them enough they will not deduct it

 

It won't look worse, it will look like what it really is. If you have a green or blue background, you are masking some of the bleed. It doesn't actually make it less than what it really is, it just hides the real bleed.

 

This smaller power brick and smaller form factor is a really strong point to M17x, the GTX260m option looks incredible for me (ATM i can't justify the $300 extra for GTX280m) and i love aluminum

I still prefer the M980NU lid... But I'm not going to take polycarbonate + bigger form factor + bigger & heavier power brick for a slight better design lol.

 

I found an old photo I snapped of my old fujitsu notebook with the dual lamp cmo lcd. You will notice light leakage being almost completely absent. This was definitely a quality screen.

 

i still see some

 

Yea but is appears far less then what I have..

My wife is not a computer person and never notices any flaws in screens or with electronics in general ect.. seriously I always have to point things out and she says that I am too picky..
however, she noticed the excessive bleed on this screen. She walked up and asked if that was normal...

So if she noticed it then it is really bad.. seriously I didnt even have to point it out.

 

yeah my gf laughed at the screen and said the $400 Vostro I bought for her has a better screen than this $4k unit

 

Has Z verified that the LCD is 1 or 2-CFFL yet?

 

Cruel girlfriends...

 

Not that I know of.. I hope soon.

 

It's never good for the relationship when a girlfriend laughs at the inadequacies of your unit.

 

ROFLMAO....


That was good!!!!

 

+rep for that post..lol

 

im away from the office for a while today ill get a call in as soon as possible

 

chi mei makes some sweet screens

 

CMO also makes crappy ones (see M1330/1530).

 

yes they do.. most of the cmo screens are very nice though rare they seem to put out a bad model

 

I had 4 1330 replacements - ALL with bad CMO screens.

The 5th had a Toshiba which was better.

Meh... my point is that all manufacturers have there issues.

 

100% they do. what i meant with cmo is it seems to be limited to a specific model. in other words like the wsxga cmo panel they use in the msi 1651 i have seen personally over 12 of those units and they have all been great panels not a single dead pixel no light bleed etc.. but the one they used in the 1530 imo sucked. but that was a different model panel.. see what i mean

 

zfactor

your pretty experienced with this stuff and I wanted to know if I buy an lcd, say off ebay, will it work with the M17x?

Not trying to go LED or anything just want a WSXGA 17" CCFL panel.

 

lol, so true...

 

I have confirmed that both the WXGA+ and WUXGA screens are in fact dual lamp CCFL, and have about 400 nits brightness.

 

What model panel comes in the 1440x900 flavor chaz?

 

OK EVERYONE

Just got my M17x and I'm liking it so far. The screen (WXGA+) has minor bleed at the bottom but is fairly bright. In my device description it shows 2 CCFL (see pic). I don't know if it is but it is allright (not sure if this res is going to work for me ).
Also, Device ID says SEC5442.

Someone maybe could help with one thing though - I am getting flashing/strobing on web pages (like the HP advertisement on this page). What's up with that? Also when I use the space bar to scroll down I get the whole page flashing.

 

Thanks Chaz! I will work with them to get a replacement for mine.

 

so sleey its pretty bright? What about color, angles etc..? Sounds like I might order mine soon.

 

That happened to me as well. I noticed my stealth was enabled and when I closed Internet explorer and restarted, it went away. I haven't had the problem since then.

 

AFAIK there isn't only one model of screen they use.

 

Thx bubba - that fixed it

Any yes, this display is matte underneath, but has the same edge-2-edge glossy plastic front covering it.

 

I just got my M17x today. And the screen is not TOO bad. The only problem is that if there's not a lot of white on the screen or colors then the brightness kinda goes down a bit. Also i did get a bit of light leakage but i'm pretty sure everyone does.

 

sleey0 do you think its 400nits?? i think you have a decent idead of what it looks like. i saw the wuxga today and tbh i dont believe this is dual bulbs. no offense at all chaz dont take it that way. imo no way this panel is 400 nits unless there is something stopping it from going up that high and yes it was plugged in. also ill call the guy i deal with at samsung and tell him what chaz said was confirmed because he told me the model shown of the wxga+ was single bulb.. ill let them deal with it after that

 

I don't know.

Could you tell me how many nits the sony Z540 screen is? That's what my wife has and it is LED and VERY bright.

I could compare the two if I knew how many nits at least one of them are.

 

do you know the model of the sony screen to check specs?? is it A LOT BRIGHTER then the 1730.. the samsung 1730 was just over 200nits, the lg panel was about 280. have you seen either of those?

 

Our Sony FW is 350 nits I believe and my M17x is not that bright.

 

IIRC Toshiba makes the screens for Sony (so check for 13.1" LED in 1366x768 and 1600x900).

 

yep just checked and the sony i calibrated was 338 nits actually. so if the m17x is not as bright as that at full brightness no way its 400nits. dont worry as soon as i get one in my own hands or someone wants to test theirs out here ill post full before and after calibration tests and ill test the screen at at least 9 points around the screen. till i get one in my own hands i will not be adding any more info as i want the info to be accurate if i post it i dont like to post anything that is not.

once i get one to calibrate we will for sure know if its really a 400nit screen. and i will test with colorimeter and a spectro as well.

 

It's too hard to tell, but if I had to guess I'd say that the M17x is about 300 nits.

The LED screen on the sony just puts out sooooo much different light

 

well then we know its a Dual bulb if its putting out 300 nits

 

I do think mine is a dual bulb

Guess it paid to go with the WXGA for now.....

 

wait so the 1440x900 is matte? Is that 1920x1200 glossy or matte

 

neither one is matte

 

sleey seems to think its matte underneath..?

 

sleey did you check your PMs.. pmed you a while ago

 

i thought it was edge to edge glass? thats what i heard in a alienware tech vid