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    M17x r3 485m gpu

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by KillerBunny, Mar 4, 2011.

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    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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    Ammo7, Mar 31, 2011
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  3. DARCODER

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    I can see that the core of the gtx485m is bigger than one from gtx460m, Is it a problem for the heatsink in R3?
     
    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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  4. Ammo7

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    it comes with a heatsink if you order from RJTECH but not sure it it will fit the R3

    I think we all need to give KipCoo a shout-out and let him know that the 485M works in the R3 and thank him for all the support he has given us, When we do find out it works.:yes:
     
    Ammo7, Mar 31, 2011
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  5. MrButterBiscuits

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    That's were LVN Neptune comes in
     
    MrButterBiscuits, Mar 31, 2011
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  6. Ammo7

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    what is LNV ???
     
    Ammo7, Mar 31, 2011
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  7. MrButterBiscuits

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    .... I had the lettering wrong, I edited it, I mean LVNneptune
     
    MrButterBiscuits, Mar 31, 2011
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  8. DARCODER

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    The HD 6970m is a square with an 45* core
    The gtx460m is a square with an square core
    The gtx485m is a big rectangle with a rectangle core 1.5 bigger than gtx460m

    ==> I undertstand now why dell not chose it... I feel it bad right now lol
     
    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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  9. Ammo7

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    Sorry still lost I even tried a google search LOL
     
    Ammo7, Mar 31, 2011
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  10. Aikimox

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    Yes, you'll most likely need a proper heatsink to keep the card cool.
     
    Aikimox, Mar 31, 2011
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  11. MrButterBiscuits

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    Hes a member here who's going to receive his 485m and test it tomorrow.
     
    MrButterBiscuits, Mar 31, 2011
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    Please can someone analyse the pic: its from R3 heatsink
    is it a ''platic'' in black that can be removed or not?

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    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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  13. MrButterBiscuits

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    I'm fairly certain thats a no
     
    MrButterBiscuits, Mar 31, 2011
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    So let's hope the copper is big enought :/
     
    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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    was trying to add a pic of the 485M but could not get it to work
     
    Ammo7, Mar 31, 2011
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  16. katalin_2003

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    Isn't that a sticker like thingy with copper underneath? Sure hope so for you guys.
     
    katalin_2003, Mar 31, 2011
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  17. MrButterBiscuits

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    DARCODER, are you thinking of pulling the black off and extending the copper? is that your idea?
     
    MrButterBiscuits, Mar 31, 2011
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  18. DARCODER

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    yes, If it's that, as i saw it on my old sony vaio on the CPU, maybe we can just remove it or I will need to mod it but i never do thongs like that:/
     
    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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  19. katalin_2003

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    Exactly! You don't want anything but thermal compound between the die and heatsink.
     
    katalin_2003, Mar 31, 2011
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  20. LVNeptune

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    How come noone posted this before =/

    So basically the heatsink may have to be modified, great =/
     
    LVNeptune, Mar 31, 2011
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  21. MrButterBiscuits

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    It may or may not have to, as long as it covers the core you should be fine, but well see.
     
    MrButterBiscuits, Mar 31, 2011
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    Great question.
    Hope it will not be that hard to do.
     
    Ammo7, Mar 31, 2011
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  23. katalin_2003

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    If it'll be unremouveable then sandpaper + thinner thermal pads ;)
     
    katalin_2003, Mar 31, 2011
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  24. LVNeptune

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    We'll find out here shortly :)
     
    LVNeptune, Mar 31, 2011
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  25. katalin_2003

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    Why don't you guys take the heatsink out and have a look at it, measure the copper surface and compare with the size of the cards die.
     
    katalin_2003, Mar 31, 2011
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    As long as it actually fits it might be ok, dont gfx card manufacturers use larger metallic 'covers' over the die like cpus? Where only the heat spreader areas over the cores matter as far as thermal paste / heat spreader contact?. I dunno I hope it works out.
     
    MJOzolins, Mar 31, 2011
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  27. katalin_2003

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    No both mobile CPUs and GPU dies are exposed, only protected by a thin layer of varnish.
     
    katalin_2003, Mar 31, 2011
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  28. MrButterBiscuits

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    No I think what hes asking is if the only places that need to be covered are the Core's where the metal is.
     
    MrButterBiscuits, Mar 31, 2011
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  29. LVNeptune

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    I'm not worried, someone will mod the heatsink or whatnot. Not the end of the world.
     
    LVNeptune, Mar 31, 2011
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    Yesterday, with pics, i compare both cards gtx460 and gtx485; the gtx485 has a rectangle core , the width is smaller with 3mm and the Length is bigger with Max 6mm.
    So I think it's no so bad.. let us know LVneptune.
     
    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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  31. Geoffxx

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    I think the correct rectangle heatsink interface would be important for efficient heat control but for testing if it works in the R3 shouldn't present any problems
     
    Geoffxx, Mar 31, 2011
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    Just remove the plastic frame from the heat-sink i done this before to polish the heat-sink on other machines
     
    Speedy Gonzalez, Mar 31, 2011
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    your message give some hopeness Speedy Gonzalez :)
     
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    Told you that I'm not the only mad scientist around here!
     
    katalin_2003, Mar 31, 2011
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  35. LVNeptune

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    Las Vegas, NV, United States 03/31/2011 6:56 A.M. Out For Delivery

    Will report back later tonight.
     
    LVNeptune, Mar 31, 2011
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    I am really looking forward to this :)
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 31, 2011
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    Me tooo. :D To bad the GTX 485m costs 750 dollars. :eek:
     
    Brabostaan, Mar 31, 2011
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    fapfapfap
    F5 tonight
     
    kunekaden, Mar 31, 2011
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    Yeah for the card itself. Wonder how much it would be if Dell decided to include it with R3s...$400 more than 6970m?

    LOL kunekaden :p
     
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    Yeahh hope its working too or I lose 750$
     
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    I really hope this works so I can save some for a future upgrade.
     
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    It could be a possibility that the cost of this card itself may have been another reason Dell has been reluctant.

    And as some of you have mentioned that the surface area differences may not have worked to Dell's advantage to have one uniform set of heat sinks for various cards offered under one Model.

    Since the Dell Studio XPS issue dell has been on the back pedal to come out aggressively in their offerings. Dell Studio XPs had Heat and throttling issues since their introduction through their models upto Dell Studio XPS 1647. That model was a big hit, but thermal design and power draw issues marred its entire existence.

    As for this Nvidia card. If it was offered and things went wrong, Dell would have a costly affair in their hands to deal with. A tooth fairy told me, testing is still being conducted.

    There is a reason for its appearance and disappearance from Dell site in Jan.I hope you folks are successful.
     
    vads24, Mar 31, 2011
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    precisley what I think mate, too risky for early deployment and marketing, I believe when we have a stable product and they have done some extensive testing it will be introduced, can't see how they can avoid it
     
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    Personally I believe they removed it to sell the lower-end cards now, then in about 6 months refresh it with upgraded cards :)

    Everyone at tech support says the 485M *SHOULD* work.

    BTW: It's sitting at my house right now, might close my store a bit early but worst case, 3 hours from now you will all know :)
     
    LVNeptune, Mar 31, 2011
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    LMFAO.

    Check back around 7:30 - 8:00 PM PST
     
    LVNeptune, Mar 31, 2011
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    Ok I will watch a movie as waiting for it^^
     
    DARCODER, Mar 31, 2011
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    Check this thread is the first thing imma do when I wake up. Its 02:25AM here.
     
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  48. MrButterBiscuits

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    COME ONNNNNNNNNN!!!!!! I'm trembling lol
     
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  49. DARCODER

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    lol i'm more than you :p because i bought one!
     
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    fingers crossed for you too then.
     
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