M17x r3 485m gpu

I have it but do not see the temps

 

GPUZ or CPUID

 

Do you have CPUZ as well? thats what you use for temps

 

Just ran a benchmark in 3D Mark 11...When the GPU hits full load the FAN kicks on full blast without vroom'ing anymore, as long as it stays at full GPU. I will modify the spare fan they sent with it to make it run 100% always for now until the fan issues get worked out.

My 3DMark 11 Score is X976 on Xtreme 1920x1080p, is that good or ?

 

So LVneptune Right now, What are the problems that you have found?

3D is it working or not?
When you play, the fan is working well or not?
What you max temp when you play?

 

I prefer 3D mark 06 for testing right now, gives more recognizable numbers for people. To analyze that we kind of have to put it into 3dmark 11

 

isn't the same

 

Let me try 3D Mark 06 and then I will test other things

EDIT: Should we use 3D Mark since it only tests DX9? I've never benched much before.

EDIT AGAIN: I am in the NVIDIA control panel and one thing is unfortunately missing....The STEREOSCOPIC 3D OPTIONS!

 

LVNeptune :
any issues with 3D or the 120Hz screen?

 

120hz no, 3D yes, read above.

 

damn, that is unfortunate...

 

Maybe the driver are not installed :?

 

It's definately installed, I think it has something to do with the driver not recognizing the S3D properly onboard...It's definately listed in device management

 

have you tried reloading the nvidia 3D drivers from dell or nvidia.com

 

I think it's the driver that you download who hasn't support of 3D, maybe you need to mod it to add that function.. :/ ( i don't know if it,s possible)

 

It has support for it, might be a mixture of 485M not supporting the internal 3D USB, I will try my external later after I play around some more...If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.

 

Or maybe you can mod the inf of the Dell nvidia 460m driver to include the gtx485m?

 

Weren't people saying the driver from Dell's site was causing BSOD's? Might be more difficult to add the 485M into the 460M driver...but may work if it is actually supported, not sure though.

 

Ah Thanks, it'was for that reason when i installed that driver on my SSD, i had some bsod lol
It's 1 o'clock, i go to bed... hope an expert will help you soon^^

 

Can someone export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D from their 460M laptop that has S3D working and send to me please?

 

As well as HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D

Thanks.

 

Bottom line is-------------------> Bios. Basic input/output system.

Until you have bios support or someone good enough to create a reliable bios without causing problems to other aspects, I think we may be stuck in this phase for awhile.

Dell will not indicate anything now for it would be sabotaging their own product. If they are, they will introduce once thr 460m cards become a passe' .

* Someone mentioned in the thread earlier that 6970 was working on M15x. If I am not wrong, that is a misinformation. It was 5870m and not 6970m. Correct me if I am wrong.

LV Neptune attempt in getting into windows, was to be expected just like how 6970m works in R2 but with all the other issues highlighted.

We were worried only for the 120hz screen. However I can bet my dollar that even if this experiment was done on a non 3d model, the result yielded would be one of the same.

6970m works in a non 3d nvidia setup because it simply has bios support.

* we were all wrong to assume the bios support for 485m was added. and those technicians are also speculating as much as we did. Saying should work is far different commitment from "110% will work " statement.

I think those who have ordered the card should cancel for now if possible and those who have it should return it for now unless you want to wait for Dell to POSSIBLY include it into their bios option.

The best way to push Dell is to stop buying the 3D version models altogether. Right now 6970m models are selling like hot cakes.

Whatever said and done, whatever GPUs come and go, its not worth getting your integrated IGP disabled because you are losing out on the extremely superior encoding capacity of the IGP versus Discrete GPU. Its simply a lost of value for the money you pay.

3D or not, they should try to design it in such a way the GPU switching is not switched off or Intel should ensure IGP supports 120Hz. Kinda of strange it doesnt already.

PS: Read Engadget on how Intel's next generation MOBO chipset doesnt even sport a single usb 3.0. Intel somehow is delaying the adoption of USB 3.0 because they want thunderbolt/lightpeak which is their technology to be the future. These are all business tactics. So no native support for usb 3.0 as of next year as per current plan from Intel chipset drawing board

 

Neptune, correct me if I am wrong. But do u think the clevo driver would sport a 3D option? Because they are not doing 3D with it.

And maybe Nvidia has not optimised this product's drivers for 3D performance on the go as of yet?

 

No...it's drivers issues, the card works fine right now, the only issue I am having (legitimately) is the Stereoscopic 3D option not showing up and I think if I downgrade to the Dell S3D driver (just S3D) it will fix that issue.

 

Honestly I don't care about IGP encoding abilities. Yes it is useful and boosts battery life, but I can always just plug in my lappy in class if I need to.

Btw, it WAS a 6970m. check the m15x thread. Inap and Rogue got it working. So it was not a 5870m, because that is old hat and established ages ago. Unless it is an april fools joke, then I think the m15x owners will not be pleased.

Let LVNeptune try and toy with it a little more. I'm no computer expert by any means, but it is worth a shot.

If it's a driver issue, that could be resolved without too much hassle hopefully. If it is bios problem, we either got to ask thewizz for some bios magic or wait it out

 

Kinda of strange huh, coz it having issues with R2 but works in M15x?..I wonder why. We will leave it to the mad scientists here to sort it out for users like me...

* Thats a compliment to all of who are willing to experiment.

 

Just ordered the 485M do not care about vads24 "expert opinion " it seem to be working so far thanks to LVNeptune efforts and I am confident that we will work out the 3d issues in time.

 

It has something to do with the NVIDIA Control Panel on the new driver, it is not configured for S3D for the internal emitter.

 

+1 for all the effort LVNeptune. For clarification, are the fans working properly or is there an issue with them? Driver issue seems more likely to me.

Hopefully DaneGRclose or somebody will be able to get you the right drivers to mod. Best of luck

Anyways, no need to dump on vlad24's opinion. I disagree with it myself, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

The 485m is 3d capable, but I don't think it has ever been used with a laptop 120hz screen before. The 460m was mass produced for that sole purpose. Maybe Nvidia hasn't input the options yet? I don't know; I'm lousy at computers.

 

When fan is at anything other than low speed or max speed it spins up and down real fast until it cools down or until the fan is at max, there is no fan issue and I ran my benchmarks with fan running at full blast. As I said, I will be modifying the spare fan to run at full speed since that is probably a driver issue as well...I am running upstairs to grab the USB IR Emitter and glasses and test that real quick, worst case if internal IR Emitter doesn't work just pick up an external. Or, this might fix my issue, we'll see

 

+2 for all the effort LVNeptune
Agreed just seems like it down plays all the effort that LVNeptuns put into to this.

 

I agree with Vads, we should hold off from buying 485m's until we get more people testing them, just because they are working right now doesn't mean there won't be problems. Let's see what happens with LVneptune before we throw money at it.

 

I too am waiting Killerbunny....but I have the luxury of waiting for a refreshed system.

I can wait for my New Whole Unit Replacement until 2014 because I am currently currently abroad and the choices for system in that country is very limited and sub par to the R2 configuration I have. And I may not return home for 2 years where I would have all the available notebooks to choose from.

But its always a nagging feeling when I just cant settle down with one system, instead of having the though I have to return it someday.

Instead of Unit Replacement I hav tot of requestion i7 940QM Ex , a backpack and additional 1 year complete cover.

I am hav been toying with these 2 options since R3 came out. So if I waited, I would wait for newer GPU to be implemented etc rather then taking the long route to it. I can understand for those who already purchased a r3 with nvidia 460m.

But I dont think its prudent for people who have not purchased to simply buy 3D with Nvidia...merely because one can purchase the 485m card outside, modify things a bit and then work on the drivers and the fans etc etc....Thats my opinion.

LV Neptune's effort is appreciable, but he is not doing it for you or for me. Its for himself. We just take the cue of whether his effort for himself was successful or not. I thank him for taking the time to post his experience in doing the process and I am sure he is not the first in the world to be trying this, but we appreciate him for sharing this effort today on notebookreview.com. And from that we gleam the rational knowledge to be applied for our individual purposes. In doing so we must also be careful not to mislead those who not well versed with the intricacies but are are super excited in throwing cash down a speculative or rocky path. Knowledge is power yet a double edge sword as well if wrongly applied.

 

This is purely an issue with the NVIDIA control panel at this point, the 3D option doesn't show up in this control panel at all. Not even with my external emitter plugged in. Definately an issue with the control panel...

Going to play around for a bit more.

EDIT: Modified the latest stock driver's INF, testing again.

EDIT: Still missing that option even with my emitter...Something in NVIDIA's software is blocking it and I don't know why. If I could somehow revert to the stock 460M drivers I would start fresh at an attempt to add the proper ID's into that driver but I'm scared to attempt to use the one on the website based on all the BSOD issues even though technically I am not even using the 460M it is probably a corrupt driver that may or may never be fixed.

 

how were those 3dmark06 scores?

 

460M drivers won't fix this issue I am having...I need some registry hack to unlock all NVIDIA control panel options, NVIDIA thinks there is no emitter when there is

 

Could also be a vbios issue as it's a clevo card and Clevo/Sager don't make a single 3D laptop. The vbios can change the way that driver reacts and what options you have and don't have as well. What I would recommend trying is head over to laptopvideo2go, download a desktop driver like the 266.66 and mod them with your HWID/Id strings and install ONLY the 3D portion of the package through custom install.

 

GeForce GTX 485M

That says the GPU and Memory Clock are 2x as fast as what GPU-Z is listing.

GPU-Z said GPU Clk 575 and Memory Clk 750 and according to NVIDIA it should be double that. Anyone actually have a screenshot of a 485M showing up in GPU-Z on a properly supported system?

 

Regardless the card itself supports 3D Vision on an external 120hz monitor...And not even that is showing up.

 

Have you checked in windows, I remember there is something you need to enable to get 3D, nothing to do with Nvidia, then the option for 3D turns up in the Nvidia control panel but you must enable in windows first, don't have a system so can't help further, also the 460m driver should work ok with the 485m just need to modify the inf file if it's not already listed, also check for settings in the bios, there may also be an option there two, but I would have left the stock 460m drives in there and modify the inf file, the fact that you didn't get an error from the bios means the card is supported by the R3, you'd have got the 8 beeps and blank screen if it wasn't.

 

nothing 3D will show up until it is enabled in windows


http://windows7themes.net/how-to-enable-3d-vision.html

 

Not sure where you read that. My desktop was not like that at all, installed emitter and drivers and worked fine.

What really concerns me is the speed listing. Can someone upload a screenshot of GPU-Z on a 460M for me?

 

right but you installed that from a kit with an install cd, this stuff was already installed on the R3 so maybe it's something to do with the order of installation, not sure but as far as I can see this is just a driver issue, the card works, some small tweaking and I am confident it will be fine, temps of 50c is nothing, my XPS idles at 50c when the cards are working currently idle is 70c because they are fooked hence I'm getting an R3


links to cpuid etc

http://www.notebookcheck.net/?id=43872


you have 3D mode and 2D mode, clocks are different....cool

you will also see the driver version from those pics 265.66

 

Nothing is enabling 3D and I am POSITIVE this card is operating at half capacity...I am wondering if the BIOS is downclocking it.

EDIT: Disregard,

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-460m-us.html that shows 2x what GPU-Z shows on the 460M, I remember vividly it saying 675 MHz now. Back to the 3D issue

EDIT 2: Now I'm REALLY CONFUSED...

The 485M is listed at 1150Mhz but the 460M is 1350Mhz ?? Why is the 460M 200Mhz faster...?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-485m-us.html

So weird...Back to 3D issues.

EDIT 3: the 266.66 driver didn't do much, still nothing

Not sure what else to try...I suppose I can go back to the original Dell driver that's on the website =/

 

because when 3D is enabled the clocks go up, look at the pictures in the link i provided, it shows 2d and 3d clocks

 

the clocks are fine

1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 485M N12E-GTX 575 1150 1500


2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M GF106 675 1350 1250


just get the 3D enabled and thats it done and dusted

 

Problem fixed, INF modded 460M driver. Working.

I am the MF'in Ninja tonight! Thanks for the ideas

EDIT: NVM the option won't enable itself. "This laptop's panel not qualified for 3D Vision" LMFAO

Error shows up when you tick it. Let me reboot. I am finishing something real quick.

Obviously that error message is lies

 

from nvidia website

For 3D Vision support, you will also need to install the NVIDIA 3D Vision Controller Driver v266.58.

ok you install the video driver then install the 3D controller driver



http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-266.58-whql-driver.html


ok I believe the driver you need is this one for laptop it has 3D support, you will need to modify the inf file as I don't think it has 485m support yet.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-64bit-267.76-whql-driver.html