M17x r3 485m gpu

Awsome way to go .

 

if the panel is not supported then there is something that dell installs to support the panel, this is just a driver issue, it is safe to assume the 485m works in the R3 at this point, I believe you will get there, just make sure you log what you did lol, I believe modding the inf file with the panel id will fix this

 

Make sure the screen is set to 120hz again if it got reset.
Also not sure what your clocks are but they wont be the same as the 460m, every card is different. IE 460m @ higher clocks is still much slower than 485m at lower clocks (within reason). It could be a problem if the card isnt running at the clocks its suppose to, make sure the voltage is right (it should be I dont think u can mod it).

Then u can use afterburner or something else to set the clocks if they arn't showing up right.

Thanks for all the experimenting / work neptune hopefully u can get everything working. If u continue having trouble spread the word there's more than a few people on this forum that can help / mod nvidia drivers if needed.

+1

 

Rebooted and S3D option is gone again, haha this is nuts.

 

Thats odd lol, if it gets too frustrating give it a rest for the night and hopefully some ppl will stop by tomm with some help

 

so at this point it's working just no 3D or no panel support, probably both linked issues.

 

When I manually run nvstwiz.exe it says the exact same thing. I am switching over to the 460M real quick to see if it works or not. BBIAB.

 

good idea, get it working then drop the 485 in without changing drivers only the inf file, I honestly can't see how this will not work, did you get a driver disc with the system, I know you don't want Dells latest driver but if that is all there is then it may be the only option, there must be something in that inf file that enables the 120hz panel, this is so close now


if you look at the nvidia driver link i gave you it lists approved devices including lcd panels monitors and cards, they all must be in the inf file for it to work.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-64bit-267.76-whql-driver.html

 

Make sure you delete every trace of the 485m driver and start fresh for the 460m driver. Maybe run Ccleaner for registry faults.

 

Switched back to 460M, didn't need to do anything, it worked perfectly. So at this point it's a limitation in the driver not allowing anything except the 460M to work for internal 3D.

 

Is it possible to spoof device/vendor ID's? They are probably doing a dev_ven lookup, if it can be spoofed as a 460M should fix it. Definately being disabled by NVIDIA at this point

 

then there must be additional lines in the inf file with ref to the 460m and 3D, I suspect if you find something then just add the 485m with the same context, this is all this can be, or download the 265 driver and add the 485 plus panel info, I'm amazed nvidia don't list a driver for the 485m card

 

LMFAO I didn't notice this but in GPU-Z it lists the SUBVENDOR as DELL. The SUBSYS is 04901028 on the 485M excatly the same as the 460M...Maybe it was actually manufactured by DELL which would make sense as to why NONE of these drivers for the CLEVO worked in the first place.

EDIT: Just checked every CLEVO driver and this SUBSYS is not used at all...Wherever these cards came from they definately were not a CLEVO.

 

Yup, 100% driver locked. As soon as it detects the 485M the stereoscopic options go away.

 

then 265 driver with 485 and panel added to inf may work this is what the clevo uses

 

any ideas what could be causing this.
do we need to wait untill Nvidia puts out a 485m driver i also noticed that they do not have one on there web site

 

There is no panel anything in any INF. Why do yo uthink the 265 driver would work?

 

Hmmmm ...so where do we go from here.

Are there any other users who wish to purchase 485m and try doing this in parallel to LV Neptune...

Ammo7----------> maybe you can use your zero cents sense now before whacking others in your childish gleeful excitedness. You used LV Neptune as your guinea pig and when you got your hopes high and mighty through his efforts , you immaturely crash on my opinion.

Go ahead and purchase your 485m card now and stop waiting for LV Neptune to sort the riddle.


Lets be honest, ask how many would buy a $700 GPU now unless they see a concrete way forward.

 

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You need to chill...At this point nothing anyone can do except hope NVIDIA releases a new 3D Vision driver that ISN'T GPU locked for notebooks. At least we now know why NO manufacturers have done this yet, because NVIDIA doesn't allow it. Why? Who knows...The card works, great, just no 3D...So for me I can basically have a 120hz laptop that won't do 3D but still has a faster card than the ATI...I would rather have 3D but hey...

 

vads24 feel better now.
still going to get it and install it will just have to live with out the 3D for now NP here with that.

 

because that's what the clevo uses, plus if you look at the nvidia link I gave you it lists added support for certain monitors/panels which is why I think the LCD panel is listed somewhere - maybe not but anyway, you got the card working fully just not 3D, it seems the Dell driver doesn't recognise the 485m as a 3D card, it's all a bit weird, when the 485 was in there was the screen running 120hz or 60hz


Imagine this, the Nvidia software recognises a game that is 3d so gives the option to enable it but only if connected to a 3D enabled output, if the clevo has only external monitor or TV option for 3D it won't be enabled until a recognised 3D device is attached so they must be listed somewhere, taking that to the Dell, it has a 3D panel built in so if you install the 265 drivers add the 485m and the 3D LCD 120hz panel to the driver then it should recognise the panel and work. BTW which bios version is in your R3 ?

 

I am sorry LV Neptune, it just that he ruffled my senses for no reason with his comment earlier today when I was trying rationalize. After all isnt this a collective effort in trying to help you.

But at the same time he shouldnt have ridiculed me over my rationalisation. I mean you have bought a card now and you are trying. Hats of to you for that. But would you advise your friend to spend that cash on the same card or would you tell him to hang on first till you try to get it to work.

I am sure you would ask him to hang tight. Correct? Thats wat I did earlier today.

 

I know what you are saying but that doesn't 100% apply in this case...The driver has a whitelist of allowed cards with *internal* LCD panels that can run in S3D. The 485M is not whitelisted, now if someone knows how to spoof the device/vendor ID's that would be something to try, or if I could dump and reflash the card with alternate vendor_id's specifically for testing purposes that would be great.

 

Do you think emailing Nvidia would help? By the way did you actually get the i7 2920 to work in Your R3?

 

I know what you are saying but there's a nice way to say something, to put it simple is this: Noone should buy this card unless they have some money to blow and wait a few months for a "working" solution assuming one appears.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-40-mobile-485m-480m-470m-460m-supported.html

read this thread, these guys are having 3D panel disappear and come back like you did, sound familiar lol

 

Vads24 it just sounded like you were down playing all his efforts. that is what got me fired up. with your opinion. i have all ready dropped it lets focus on the problem at hand. and try to find a solution

 

I see only one mention of Stereoscopic and it was a guy mentioning it was added back like it was removed previously or something...

 

Coming back to our issue at hand, could it be 485m 3D has been more oriented for external 3D Tv etc and not inbuilt small screen like in R3?

This maybe the reason why a stable 460m mayb have been chosen. Looks like 460m is targeted for inbuilt 3D. This seems to be the case thus far for all inbuilt 3D laptops.

I am very sure this scenario will change as the months pass by, but my gut feeling is, the inbuilt 3D will not outstrip the need to focus on building GPUs to power it on External tv etc.

Even the Dell XPS series are made to do this specifically rather than inbuilt 3d gaming. Apart from that with the full fledge production of Sandy Bridge chipset from this months full roll outs will take place and companies would confidently put forth their new machines more aggressively.

 

Actually they might have enabled it for a few models because the new XPS has a GT 550 and 555 that are able to run S3D with the built-in screen.

 

yup thats what I getting at, it seems to be a hit and miss issue depending on the driver you install, I don't know much about driver inf files but I am a quick learner, I know the card must be listed to support it - no biggy there, that guy installed that driver and reported his 3D ability came back, now assuming he did not have any 3D capable monitors attached as the clevo does not have a 120hz panel then the 3D option should just be there. That driver also installs support for the othere 3D devices with 3D vision drivers

 

nope I don't think so, it should work, it's a nvidia GPU with 3D capable, that's it, other hardware in the machine must have drivers installed

 

Well for now cheer up..forget about the 3D...Ride that thing! and see if its doing everything else perfectly fine.

Just install the correct drivers etc for normal function, check the temps, fans etc..its ability to game, fraps etc etc...

Forget about 3D machismo for now. We have been too focused on this alone for most part of the process..

 

and what driver are they using ?????


look unless Dell have done something really quirky with how they have set this up, it should work with any nvidia 3D capable card, once the correct drivers are installed

 

Well like it was said earlier by Dane, the vbios is important for the hardware to understand how to use the emitter etc. Maybe this is the part lacking in LV's GPU.

Now for Vbios it all back to Dell right?

 

VBIOS is unrelated here, the external emitter would still allow it to work. If I had a DP -> DVI adapter I would test using my 3D monitors upstairs and it would almost surely work.

 

actually the card is working and supported in the bios from the word go, only thing left is getting that 3D to work, there is a simple solution to this and the clevo forum might be the place to find out.

 

i don't think so, and the reason is the clevo has 3D enabled in the control panel when not connected to any 3D output devices so thats a show stopper right there.

 

3D Mark 06 set up, what res should I test at?

 

can I ask for a step by step of what you did mate from the moment you installed the 485m, drivers actions outcomes etc, just one liners so we can get a picture of whats been covered, at this point I'm not sure whar drivers you used with what and when.

 

default, just run it

 

Result 17993 3DMarks that was at 1920x1080, I'll rerun at 1280x1024

 

I asked Atmosk to take a look here from the clevo forum, maybe he can help with this.

 

pretty good right out of the blocks wow

 

wow nice .
now we just need to get nvidas 3D support.

 

Holy shiiit, 17993 3DMarks @ 1900x1080, that is impressivem you could be about to hit an all time high at 1280x1024 and thats without any over clocking...encredible, can you imagine overclocking that sucker with a 2920XM overclocked, no wonder this machine gets great reviews, this is only the beginning lol

is the monitor showing 120hz and is it's id in control panel

 

I will post all this in the morning going to crash in a bit.

 

Default at 1280x1024 Result 19894 3DMarks

 

Yes it's set to 120hz

 

wow knocking on the door of 20k stock