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    M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by ThaDutchy, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    i guess because parts are manufactured in China. assembly is a different thing. so here comes the question. if they are assemplied in China why they have lack of parts?
     
  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Because they don't manufacture the parts but from what I understand the supplier is in the building next to them.
     
  3. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    so this one more reason they shouldnt have lack of parts. then maybe lack of materials to take it further. lool
     
  4. T3Vince

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    After seeing all these posts which got me excited, I decided to call dell US myself and the rep that I spoke to said the 5870's are indeed available in cf. Just wanna make sure if anyone has got the same response so I can rest assure that the rep knows what he's doing?
     
  5. xhero

    xhero Notebook Evangelist

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    A rep gave me the same response yesterday when I called. Someone said in a previous post that they have them if you order over the phone but it takes a bit of time for the 5870's to show online.

    My opinion is that I would wait until they show online because Dell reps are not the most reliable source and they might not be available just yet.
     
  6. Lp18

    Lp18 Notebook Consultant

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    Guys I need your help I want to order the m17x R2 with the cx 5870 but the AW Portuguese website isn't working what should I do??
     
  7. vradev

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    xhero Notebook Evangelist

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    Just wait. Crossfire 5870's won't show up until around the 5th of May.
     
  9. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I have been told it has to show on the web site in order to get it, even by phone.
     
  10. Lp18

    Lp18 Notebook Consultant

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    that I know but I was refering to the entire website : (
     
  11. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    I won't be ordering until the EPP site has them.
     
  12. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    E-mailed my rep asking If I could configure early with him instead of someone different on the phone(like Jimbo...)
     
  13. T3Vince

    T3Vince Notebook Consultant

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    ah, I can't wait anymore. I'll be heading back for summer and I can't wait to have my hands on the m17x.
    Anyone knows if UK charges custom or vat for laptops? I heard somewhere that they don't ..
     
  14. flyinglion

    flyinglion Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I can order one for you as I see there is no Alienware in Portugal?
     
  15. exodus14221

    exodus14221 Notebook Geek

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    Dang, just spoke with EPP sales (I'm in US) for a replacement R2 system with dual 5870s but he said it wasn't an option (only xfire 4870) and didn't know when it would be available. At least Customer Service told me I have till 5/14 to return my system for full refund. If Cinco de mayo is the day, I'll still have plenty of time to return and reorder. :D
     
  16. Lp18

    Lp18 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi

    How can you do it? There was a AW portuguese website but now I don't if they are going to continue
     
  17. ThaDutchy

    ThaDutchy Notebook Evangelist

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    Nice find, I was wondering why it wasn't up there... +rep
     
  18. xhero

    xhero Notebook Evangelist

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    Won't the EPP site have them the same time the main site has them? EPP had the single 5870 on the same time.
     
  19. 5150Joker

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    So I wonder who's going to be the first to receive their dual 5870m system? I'm sure those that order it through spare parts will have a dual 5870m setup before everyone else but I'm talking about new orders. I'll definitely not be the first since I plan to wait on EPP and that portion of the dell website tends to lag by 2-3 days.

    I think the initial vantage run with a 920xm should yield about 14.5k-15k (with no changes to the mip map settings in the CCC etc..just default). The 820m setup (which I plan to get) will probably hit about 14k.

    For hardcore gamers + overclockers, I'd highly recommend going for the 820m processor over the 920xm. The reason being the bios power trip point for these systems, the R2 with the dual 5870s will consume less power overall than the dual 4870s but when the GPU's are heavily OC'd, it will quickly reach the power trip point of the R2 and you will without a doubt see some flickering in games that tax the system hard--a good example being GTA IV. Finally, another point to consider is that the 920xm runs hotter than the 820m and thus puts more strain on the cooling system. Since the 5870s run quite hot as is, the internal heat buildup will be considerably higher than the dual 4870m systems. This will probably lead to the system running it's fans at higher RPM than usual. Thus, ideally, a 720/820m + 5870m xfire seems the best route.
     
  20. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    I thought i7 620 would be preferred over i7 720? Referring to this post.
     
  21. flyinglion

    flyinglion Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can get it in Ireland and ship to Portugal :)
     
  22. Lp18

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    won't that difficult the warrantys and contracts even the power cable is different I think, but btw why is the portuguese website closed, I just can't imagin not having a m17x after a long loooooooooooong wait that I passed
     
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    flyinglion Notebook Enthusiast

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    Warranty is international and can be transferred by filling online warranty transfer request form. I can get 3 to 2 pin adapter or you can buy 2 pin cable somewhere else, I would say it is pretty common and cheap cable.
     
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    aoliver Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm so angry at this thread!!! I've been lurking since the first post and obsessively checking it all day long... My EDD for my m15x is a week from today and this post has me 2nd guessing my choice of the m15x over the m17x... I don't NEED the dual 5870's nor the bigger screen and I will be hauling it around daily so the m15x makes more sense. But the sheer awesomeness of the dual 5870's has me wanting this laptop so bad... *sigh*
     
  26. ThaDutchy

    ThaDutchy Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry, for starting it. ;)
     
  27. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Carrying around the M17x is like carrying around a desktop. ;)
     
  28. Lp18

    Lp18 Notebook Consultant

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    thanks flyinglion, gonna think about it because I have to get the money :rolleyes: again thanks
     
  29. joelhr

    joelhr Notebook Consultant

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    Its not that bad, my dads old 15" IBM thinkpad from the 90's weighs more than the m17x :p
     
  30. flyinglion

    flyinglion Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not sure how can I send my e-mail to you for future communication?
     
  31. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    It'll feel that way if you have to carry it around daily.
     
  32. Lp18

    Lp18 Notebook Consultant

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    my email is on the profile page you can check it there if you want
     
  33. alexbalibander

    alexbalibander Notebook Consultant

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    next week i'm going to ask a dell rep why the price of an m17x is so much higher than an equally spec'd asus g73 :b(use as an base for getting some discount's ofc)
     
  34. ceshimm

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    because aw is aw i guess. :p at least it won't work in AU.
     
  35. QuasiQuartz

    QuasiQuartz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yo man, be sure, you will NOT run into any trouble. :) It's your own laptop so noone will charge extra when crossing borders. I'm sure coz I bought a lappy in CZ and brought it to UK where I study. ;) Noone even looked at laptop lol. :D However, they may charge you if they think you gona sell it. Hence my advice, don't carry it in the original box, use laptop bag. :cool:
     
  36. darkloki

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    The build is completely different, while the alien also gives you room for a 2nd GPU and an RGB LED.
     
  37. alexbalibander

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    still not worth it, for the price between an m17x and asus g73 i can buy a better stationary gamer than the fullspecd m17x (other prices here in norway)
     
  38. ceshimm

    ceshimm Notebook Consultant

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    yes, that's true. it happens everywhere, but trust me, u will choose AW as a result. :p something u can not judge by price/performance ratio
     
  39. 5150Joker

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    Personally no matter what synthetic tests may show, I won't opt for a dual core system. The future is with quad or higher optimized applications and the results may change between the 620/720 by then. I think the best middle ground solution is to go for an i820, it has the same cache as a 920xm but consumes less power and runs cooler.
     
  40. alexbalibander

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    yes what i'm trying to say is that i'm going to bring this up to the rep with intension's of getting some discounts :3
     
  41. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    I am thrilled with the 620 thus far.
     
  42. 5150Joker

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    Do you have access to any left 4 dead 2 timedemos? I was hoping you + someone with a 5870/920xm setup could run it and see what the difference comes out to. Source games are traditionally very CPU heavy and do tend to scale well with quad core systems. Would like to see how well the 620m keeps up.
     
  43. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    IMO, most "Core-i" procs will do for now. We see already what happens to them under stress.
     
  44. SAUCE

    SAUCE ★ ★ ★

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    I bought my desktop proc when was first released back in April 07 as i thought Quad was the future well its 2010 now whats changed :confused: not much IMO.Quads 4 sure are good if they can be utilized to there full potential .
     
  45. ceshimm

    ceshimm Notebook Consultant

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    THEN GOOD LUCK
     
  46. alexbalibander

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    thanks :b
    i just hope i get some discounts, because this monster is expensive :p
     
  47. 5150Joker

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    There's a lot more quad friendly games now than in 2007. The list continues to grow:

    1. Dragon Age: Origins CPU benchmarks - 75 percent boost for quad-cores - Dragon Age Origins, CPU, Benchmark, Performance - PC Games Hardware

    2. UT3, L4D Series, GTA4 (triple core), Mass Effect, BFBC2 etc
     
  48. Mazdaspeed_6

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    well guys I'm back to waiting for 5870 CF now. Since single 5870s are out, It convinced me to return my R1 and finally get the R2.
     
  49. mostwanted115

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    shall i buy this or the Asus G73jh or the RAP4 Xpower 2010 paintball gun ?

    it's gotta be one of them and i have to choose wisely.
     
  50. 5150Joker

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    Paintball gun if you play regularly. You'll get exercise out of it and it's more fun than playing a simulated game. I wish I knew people that played locally.
     
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