M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

Has anyone received an M17X with a single 5870 and checked to see if it has the crossfire connector?
Just curious. This is getting to be a huge thread and this was discussed a few pages back.
At this point I'm sure waiting is the best option since 5/5 is so close. But curiousity is eatin' at me. Along with waitin' for AW to determine if my rig can be fixed or not.
I'm droolin at all the possibilities for the future.

 

did you hear from the grapevipe about how much more powerful it would be

 

Greece is not the victim, they have ridiculously high pension costs and half the population dont pay tax, ofcourse it will go bankrupt. Now the German tax payers are angry they are gonna pay for GREEK pensions LOL. What a world we live in.

 

Only problem with that is if it's true about what you said b4 with Alienware going plastic then chances are if they refreash the GPU with the Nvidia then it will probably be a whole new desgin... maybe plastic?

 

Need to change the topic title to say "SINGLE 5870HD" so it doesn't confuse users.

 

not really...

 

Yeah, then make a new thread called "M17xR2 - out with HD5870 Crossfire"

 

that would be an unneccessary thread when one thread will do

 

well i am not one of them. those people exist everywhere even in Germany and are mafia and rich people. what is wrong is that no one goes to jail. If i wasnt a Greek i would think the same way as you. And by the way Germany is not going to PAY but LEND and its still to see how much they will gain from it.

Of course Greece has minimum incomes as Germany sales its products to Greece and whole world. An embargo would be great for Germany? by the way our products are of the best quality so more expensive. Imagine if Greece decides to close Carrefour, Opel, BMW, Mercedes and so many other companies of German advantage. Those are incomes from Greece to Germany.Oh! but Germany is paying oh! how poor people of germany people are.

Be carefully with saying general things. I talked about politicians. And to be finally clear what they are trying to do is that they are trying to reduce the cost of the greek products which are going out of Greece and are so expensive. Not for us as they f--ked up our salaries but for all the others.

and because we should never forget do you know how much is the cost of Germany war crimes against Greece that will never be paid?

 

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Take politics elsewhere, this is LAPTOP forum.

Less is more, cha-cha-cha, Charmin ULTRA!

We all know eventually they will come out so no point in seperating ideas, comments, horror stories etc. I've got SAT's tommrowo so i'm looking at the release of(hopefully)wednesday as a completion gift

 

maybe this forum should be cleared from needless posts and close until cinco de mayo. yes ive learned this now on, on the other side of the world. lool

as for the UK prices its not good to get rid of 4870s. hm..

 

The Dell rep ive been dealing with just called me to offer a deal on a crossfire 4870 system, while he was on the phone he said that the 5870 crossfire has been removed from Dell`s system and Dell wouldn`t give a reason why.

So at present according to the rep i spoke to who is a manager, and seems genuine he said the crossfire 5870 option has been removed with no reason being given from Dell.

 

I'm sure they'd rather say "no reason" versus, "oops, our mistake, it shouldn't have been there in the first place since we're not prepared to release them yet"

wouldn't the latter upset you more?

 

Doesn't matter. IMO, they're not prepared for the current M17x R2's that are being sold in Crossfire configs. All of these parts shortages, etc.

 

This is way off-topic nonetheless Carrefour is French from France... And how about the cost of the Greek empire thousands of years ago. How they ruined lives, families and cultures... That won't be paid either... I am sure Clovis would like some compensation.

To go back to our topic, I think it would be good to find someone with the M17X R2 equipped with the 5870 and willing to take the PC apart to check for a possible crossfire cable. Only then we would get a slight idea of what may happen in the coming weeks.

 

I'm sure no one has one in hand yet, it's only been available for 2 weeks or so

 

as for the first part no comment for thousands years ago before germany was born. and something you dont know there was no greece then but divided towns which were also making war between each other. Then it was Roman empire then then then. Someone is doing this now but the -peaceful- way. but 70 years ago which have greater impact on current economy.

as for the second i think the 5870s still have not crossfire connection?

 

Why manufacture two different cards?? 100% sure it has a crossfire connector.

 

Because there is already a 5870 out in the correct form factor that does *not* have the Crossfire connection point. That is why there's concern about the single 5870 option versus the pulled Crossfire option.

 

I think the singles do not have the crossfire connector and are readily available. The crossfire ones are being made specifically for Dell I believe and the supply is short on those until production ramps up.

 

Those are not Dell's cards. They develop these cards in conjunction with ATI.

 

Sounds about exactly right. Also if Fermi mobile is a 100Watt GPU then I guess SLI versions would be cut down? Even though it's kind off-topic.

 

Well the mobile part coming from nVidia in June isn't fermi exactly. It's got parts of fermi in it (DX 11/tesselation) but the rest is new from what I heard and read.

 

could you please post the article you were reading I'm interested in reading it myself

 

I wonder if alienware will be at E3 to show off new laptops? Maybe the 5870's in crossfire or the new Nvidia offering?

 

If they have new graphics cards comming out this summer why would they even go to the trouble of offering crossfire 5870's? I mean why offer 5870's CF in May, and then release a new offering in June? Or will both be an available option?

 

Because they have contracts with both companies to offer their cards. AW will be offering both cards, but I to am pretty mad about the way ATI handled their production outputs.

Just like in the case of the 4870's they produced way too small of an amount and the release ended up being delayed to the point ATI couldnt capatilize on the 260/280's. Once again here it looks like the 5870's will be so far delayed it won't be able to rake in the amount of profits it could have competing against Nvidia if it just had appropriate amounts a month ago. Now leaks of 480GTX info (of course planned) will substantially reduce the amount of people going for the 5870's.

 

I bet Nvidia's new card will have 216 stream processors, 2GB of GDDR5, a 192bit memory bus, and will use 75 watts each. Just a hunch.

 

Well, my order got cancelled aswell. so If the Rep ain't gonna bring clearense about why they cancelled it, and make me a superdeal to reorder with a single 5870! I am definetly willing to open it up and give clearity... no prob's. Except for this cavety in there which will give me nightmares.

 

why 2GB of VRAM? I don't see that happening at first launch.

 

Probably for marketing purposes and to out do ATI. The average Joe would think "2gb's of vram, omg aweseome, it must be better than the 5870" which it will be but not for that reason, just in terms of bandwidth and pixel pushing power.

 

I can see it now... "Alienware proudly announces the first 4GB dual graphics card solution by nVIDIA"

Marketing and their half-truths. I'm not sure 2GB of DDR5 though, I thought it's hard to cool?

 

I pretty sure Nvidia is releasing a 2gb vram GPU. It is listed at HP parts for an upcoming GPU part. It could be a mistake, but knowing Nvidia I highly doubt it's a mistake. I don't know if it's going to be a gaming variant or a mobile Quadro or both. I guess time will tell.

 

4GB would increase framerates by a huuuge margin right?


side note, got the HTC Incredible, I almost don't need a computer

 

2 gb will be workstation. It's overkill for mobile gaming.

 

If E3 is going to be in June why wouldn't people wait for the new Alienware laptop? Of course I don't know the exact date of E3.

 

June 15 to June 17...

My question is what makes you think there would even be a new Alienware laptop...

 

I think that's a pretty close hunch, hehe.

 

I think it's high time they sold BOTH 5870 and whatever DX11 Nvidia comes up with in a month. To me that is exactly the point of where things are going. Whichever GPU you want, you've got it, now matter who you are.

All too often people end up picking machines based on GPU's they like or don't like. That time needs to be gone. If it's a good GPU and the 5870 is a good one and the 280's were good ones in their day, then it should be possible to put in a GOOD machine like the M17x.

I may have my preferences in card vendors but I'm pleased as punch they'd offer both GPU's. Competition, direct machine testing and comparison, are good for the industry, because they are motivated to make the best machines, and good for consumers because the makers compete for their business (and win it ultimately).

Nvidia is just a month or two behind the 8 ball and I think they have no idea how many M17x's are going to get sold with 5870's. But it's a good GPU and the owners will get a solidly performing system at a good price.

 

Or not buy one at all.

In January it was, Wait for the R2
In March it was wait for the 5870
In May its wait for E3.

Im going to take a guess in June it will be wait for the Nvidia _____.

Then there will be a reason to wait every other month.

Bottom line is laptop vendors out date their current line up pretty much every 3 months, if you wait you will end up never buying anything.

 

i for one thought the 5870's would be out with the r2 if 5870 had been out at the same time yes i would have bought it then.

I have decided I will only ever upgrade a computer once at the end its life. Once I do that one upgrade. Its a new laptop or computer.
that is the reason I waited for the 5870's.

 

I would think this just comes down to a cost issue. The less options, the more they buy in bulk and therefore cheaper. Plus, they have to support all the options they offer (drivers etc.) which has a cost attached as well. Who knows what kind of deal (if any) that NVIDIA or ATI gives them to offer theirs as the premium video card option for a set period of time.

 

I just don't get where all this speculation is coming about E3 ect...

For the 3rd time, because some probably didnt read it

1. AW is getting both cards, the 5870x2 and the new Nvidia cards
2. There won't be any completely new Alienwares until next year, as said by a DELL rep on these forums.

So just buy the 5870x2 or the new Nvidia cards and be happy until the new platform arrives next year. Even with the 5870x2 there's almost zero reason to go with the stronger Nvidia cards coming out unless all you play is Crysis or you want to be the worlds best bencher ...

 

That's right unless you are wanting to buy the top CPU (which is now the 920xm) then there is a better time to buy. The 940xm should be released by this July sometime. It will be sometime in 2011 before something faster comes out.

 

Why doesn't someone ask the alienware team for info via facebook or something? I would but I ain't on it

 

because they won't give a definitive answer. besides we have someone on the forum who has inside connections who will give us better info then alienware will

 

then he should have answers why all orders with CF 5870 were cancelled and why there is this delay even though people inside Dell had the option of CF 5870.

Is it because 5870s dont have crossfire input?
Is it because of techniqal issues (maybe power?)
is it because they want to get rid of stock 4870s
is it because they are waiting for better prices for the 5870s?

4 days remaining to the promising 5th of may. hope its true because in EU after the rise of the prices i dont see them getting rid of the 4870s so fast.

 

Any chance you are going to have some 940's for sale?

 

maybe because 5870CF is not officially ready and it's unfair to get someone having it earlier than most of others, no matter a new order or a replacement order. Maybe they can technically do it, but do not want to do it this way.

 

speaking about unfair difference between EU and US Dell services is huge. same for prices. we pay more we get less. however as for 5870CF we are all at the same point. at least for now. lets see where will they be released first. i bet US customers will have them first. and the 5870 CF was up for two days before it dissapeared and this occured only in no US countries meaning that only Dell US didnt want to cause confusion and order cancelling