M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

someone said Wednesday and Sunday are the primary online configuration update days. I haven't heard anything that says that's true, but that's the reasoning behind thinking Wednesday.

 

That's why I love our forum. Full of speculation which turn to be expectation and/or frustration

But that's Alienware, the world's largest boutique brand, offering high-performance systems for gamers and enthusiasts.

 

lol! the only people I've listened to so far are mandrake and Joker as far as release dates go, and that's only because apparently they've been right in the past.

 

I'm saying Monday.
They wouldn't have taken the dual 4870 option off the site if something new was not coming relativly very soon.

 

I wouldn't take that as a good sign, 4870s disappeared from the Canadian site for over a week but they're back now. Sadface.

 

i have a bad feeling about the 5870 CF. it's either going to be legendary or epic fail.

 

too late, they've missed the last 3 tentative release days, so it's already fail, it's just a matter of how epicly fail it will be.

 

well... if 5870 CF is released and performance is better than desktop 5770 CF with no issues at all... then it may be legendary.... but it's like a 1% chance that's going to happen.

 

they are still up in us.

 

IMHO People can (better if organized the american way) show their convictions, refuse to being manipulated by so called representatives and stop buying any AW as an evidence of (at least) dissapointment and wait until after E3 (June 15-17 2010). Don't follow just your instinct, follow your mind...

 

Yup, the guy I spoke to asked me how soon I was planning to purchase the M17x. I asked him when the 5870x2 will come out, and he said about 6 months. LOL He obviously wanted me to purchase it at that moment. Asked me to answer a survey afterward. lol Screw that.
Oh yeah, I first called to ask about that 40% off HD display that went up on the site today. He said it was already marked down to 200 bucks, but it's been 200 bucks for the 1200p upgrade for a while now.

 

Not mentioning that they've been removed from a few countries many times only to appear again a few days later.

 

I don't recall Dell or Alienware announcing any release dates.

 

Everyone just needs to calm down and go play some games, it will come one day. I'm enjoying my new single 5870. Will I get xfire 5870 when it comes out? Probably, but for the time being I'm very happy with my single 5870.

 

A few people now with a 5870 and maybe I missed it, but no one tried Eyefinity yet?

 

Hey what was your benchmarks?

 

Yeah I want to hear about Eyefinity as well.

 

well i was right with 4850s ... im right with 5870s uk release so im going for a win treble

tomorrow im putting the lottery on only 1 pound its all i need tell you what ill go even further,, i rekon even tho uk have 5870cf the usa site will have it as an option before the uk site !!!!!

im going for double or nothing now

 

Tomorrow? Ok bud we'll see. I'm wearing out the F5 on my computer and even cancelled my order for the single 5870

 

lol good luck, I wish you are right for the CF, but I know better.

 

People on this forum DEMAND!!!! PROOF!!!

 

Chill matey. You'll get proof when Dell releases them - until then, this is mostly 200+ pages of speculation.

 

I benchmarked around 14300 on 3dmark06 with no overclock. Otherwise I'm not big on benchmarking, I actually prefer to play my games instead of running benchmarks all day.

 

Exactly all this is just speculation, it's kinda getting old now. Wish people would stop posting about what their reps tell them and about release dates etc.

 

Holy smokes, thats pretty dang good for a single card. I hear you on the gamin, fps is what counts but thank you for sharing the info

 

That's not a Vantage score? Sure is low for 06.

 

That's for one 5870 though, my CF 4850's get about 15k.

 

Yeah, that's pretty damn solid for 1 mobile card.

 

Well, then that's about 35% lower than dual 4870s. I didn't think it would be that low on a 5870.

 

That's about right for stock settings on a single 5870. This single card should do you well for while at least.

 

babyhemi any news for Dell 5870s? single gpus have CF connector as you may have seen. Thus they have part number.

 

My EDD is been moved to 19-5 instead of 21-6!

Guess they got enough parts nowadays...

 

i cant believe my fate

 

Lucky! Now hopefuly they'll start the CF

 

Cryis XGA
4870 x2 52 frames (8% faster)
5870 48 frames

3DMark06
4870 x2 score 14496 (14% faster)
5870 score 12696

3DMark05
4870 x2 score 18522 (3% faster)
5870 18017

By Christmas there will be a host of new Directx11 games. Yes the 4870 x2 is a little faster but the 5870 Directx11 will look much better.

The advantages of the 5870 Direct x11 are as follows.

Tessellation – Tessellation is implemented on the GPU to calculate a smoother curved surface resulting in more graphically detailed images, including more lifelike characters in the gaming worlds that you explore.

Multi-Threading – The ability to scale across multi-core CPUs will enable developers to take greater advantage of the power within multi-core CPUs. This results in faster framerates for games, while still supporting the increased visual detailing.

DirectCompute – Developers can utilize the power of discrete graphics cards to accelerate both gaming and non-gaming applications. This improves graphics, while also enabling players to accelerate everyday tasks, like video editing, on their Windows 7 PC.

Crysis 2 will use Direct x11. Enough said.

 

when you see significant difference between DX 10.1 and 11 on a 17 inch screen tell us even more. single mobile gpu is difficult to handle dx11 games on extreme settings.

 

Dell released Ati 5850 for M11x in Europe.

Sorry I meant M15x

 

and everybody went for babyhemi 5870 which works. lool

 

Mine is shipped!!!

 

Tessellation is a big deal.

ATI offered it back in the day on the 8500 series. CS supported it and the difference was noticeable. But engines went towards other effects and it was forgotten.

But in 2010 and 2011 a lot of games will support the feature and you will really start to see a big difference.

 

difference on what? graphics? demands? what?

 

How much better are they going to be than the Dual 4870's?

 

Quite a bit better, significantly better.

 

15% in games I'd say, not more. The 5870s are awesome because they overclock heavily, about 250 mhz more than the 4870s can. With a max OC, they should be about 25-30% faster in synthetic tests. But the key thing to keep in mind is nobody in their right mind will be running dual 5870s at 900mhz or higher because they generate too much heat. If Dell hasn't modified the M17x for these, I'm almost certain people will see higher overall system temps because of the internal heat created by these cards.

Tesselation is definitely something to look forward to in a year or two when it takes off. However, by then the 5870s will be old news. Right now the biggest advantage the 5870s have over the 4870s is the core being produced on a smaller manufacturing process, thats about it.

 

Who knows? maybe in the next CES AW will show an air conditioned M18x wich can stand easily the 900mhz. And the next thread will be on how to find a shoulder strap (and a shoulder accordingly) to take the 58 pounds weight of this "laptop"...

 

Can anyone with 5870 post some working temps here? Just wondering how hot are they non-OC-ed. Preferably with m17x (I imagine m15x's cooling is a little bit different).

 

i guess you are the secret tester of Dell.

 

As I mentioned in another thread, after playing metro 2033 on high settings for an hr temps never went above 79 C

 

Which program did you use to monitor it?

 

HWinfo32, unless you have other recommendations