*OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 and M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 4

I get 3dmark 2011 of 3800 with gtx580m. Slightly overclocked to 700mhz on a 2720 so I'm quite pleased with that .
Can you still get 3d with the voltage mod?

Joe

M17x r3 2720qm gtx 580m 3d screen.

 

Yep, everything is still the same just higher power consumption. Also means higher clocks and higher performance.

 

anyone care to reveal what tools you use for overclocking the 580M? (seems my last post went down under

 

I use nvidia inspector. It has an "Unlock Max" option because the sliders don't go far enough for me

 

the Throttlestop wont help on 3d mark11... i use IXU to check the proc throttling, so far it stay at 0% all the way 3d mark 11 running.

 

worldedit, I have to ask. Does the 2920xm work with overclock in the r3? I Heard people were using it a bit ago, but without overclock capabilities.

 

u may use IXU to overclock it. It function like unlock bios. as you know.. the IXU is fully control bios setting. U can use the IXU at original dell bios. just enable overclock function in bios then the IXU will work well.

Most of the IXU function is direct save into bios setting. even u have reboot, the last o'cing setting will stay. you no need to open IXU everytime unless u want to add more power onto it.

 

Alright, thanks for the info.

 

strange. may i ask which version you´re using?
i tried v1.9.5.5 but the only thing i can change is the memory-frequency.
the part where you can change the gpu-frequency is disabled.

maybe im missing something here

 

Make change on the shader clock... 2:1

 

ok this is embarrassing...i have honestly no idea why i didnt try that before -.-...

thanks btw ^^

 

u r welcome... and go try it... have fun ya.

 

Did you oCed in this benchmark ?
6636 physics score for i7 2920XM 4.725GHz (45x105fsb) ??
and the one in vantage too .. kinda low for 2920XM

 

yea... if u have ATI den u will get high score on physics.. but u r on Nvidia.. den "NO"

 

The 2920XM can't OC in the R3 like it can in the M18x. The guys with and XM in the 18x are scoring around 30K CPU score in Vantage. They can alter things like multiplier, and TDP for the chip.

 

30k?? that a lot!!

Just use the IXTU from intel, the software really done a good job. but i really how they can passed 30k on cpu score..


FYI *devillucifer

single ati 6970@stock den on physics score easy passed 8.8-8.9k
so u got the picture for the different between ati and nvidia?

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Yup, 30K, Heres a run done by johnksss.

As far as ATI, and Physics, ATI really has nothing to do with it. The Physics test is a CPU test, and so it only matters what your CPU is clocked at. The GPU has no affect on that part of the 3DMark11 test.

 

that's allot of flex your using for a 46x multiplier

 

mb i setting wrong? or nvidia drive having problem? but i get a huge different between nvidia and ati on physics score.

 

Is the 580M throttling, worldedit?

 

no....you guys should have a read here...this pretty much explain's what is going on between the two cards. a bit of an eye opener...

3DMark 11 Physics Test - A CPU Test? - L O S T C I R C U I T S

 

hmm.. nope... i flash to mod a04 bios den use this method to force flash to a08. it wil removed the throttling for 580m.

Btw *johnksss, do you mind to explain more on "that's allot of flex your using for a 46x multiplier"

 

im sorry...that's not your score in the 6970 pic you posted. my bad.

but in the pic..his turbo voltage is far to high for what he is trying to run. that's like a 40 to 50 flex (speculation because i dont have my machine to tell)

 

Thanks for the article, that makes sense now but makes using 3Dmark11 to compare systems with different GPUs pointless.

 

after did some oc for ati 6970m
my physics score easily hit 9.2k

wat wrong with nvidia?? why with nvidia den i wil get lower mark on physics score? i did for manually choose physics run on cpu or gpu, also get the same thing/score

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Because the nvidia card is throttling the CPU. It is drawing too much power and the CPU is getting crippled.

 

hmm... tomorrow goin to dell office and get the 330watt power and try out again.

serious... with 6970m vantage also can get near to 28k cpu score.

 

John, thats a great article. +1

So as far as the physics test, is that using DirectCompute? I know that when I increase my CPU TDP or clocks, the score goes up. I figured the physics test was all CPU. As far as lighting, and tesselation, I realize thats handled by the GPU.

 

As far as we know, the 330w adapter doesn't work with the M17x R3. But please try again. Maybe things have changed.

 

yup... after increase the TDP... the proc getting super hot

orite... will update you.

btw, after jus increase the tdp to MAX.. nearly kill my cpu.. hahaha

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will try out again tomorrow. late nite here... goin to sleep. nite ya all master... i learn alot today. thanks johnksss, DR650SE and widezu69

 

Looks good! No one cares about temps. We just want SPEEED!

 

wow so looks like 2920xm is a go in r3 now. sweet!!!!

 

Yep, I plan on combining both Throttlestop and XTU. Although seems like it is opposite now ie the GPU no longer throttles but the CPU does under high load.

 

I've hit over 110W on my CPU in my R2, Find a way to increase the clocks and the TDP. That should help a lot. Also see if adjusting the heatsink will help.

Also, what size PSU are you using worldedit? 150w, 240w? Not sure what the R3 has being a single card, non XM CPU system. Do an OCed GPU and CPU run, and 19K should be easy.

 

r3 is using 240watts psu. there is alot of headroom for some serious oc'ing

 

Shame, my overvolted card, if you do the math, pulls around 150w on it's own!

 

wow my whole system pulls under 200 under full load. but things may change with 2920 and overvolted gpu. btw there is a pc on a oem 2920 in the marketplace widezu.

 

Yeah well, when overvolted, each phase core loads about 35A, multiply that by 0.92v and again by 4 because there are four of them, you get 128.8w. Add a few more watt for the PCB and the ram modules and there are twice as many compared to the ATi ones, 16x128mb vs 8x256mb. We are looking at around 150w just for the GPU maybe even more. Now if worldedit hit around 90w with his CPU pulling in around 26k in Vantage, looks like the 240w charger just won't cut it.

 

@widezu: How do you get these numbers? (E.g. 35A/phase)

In vantage the GPU won't draw a lot of power during the CPU test, and the CPU isn't really working hard during the GPU tests, so it should work out fine for vantage, 3dM11 is different though.

 

I'm just regurgitating something I read somewhere else. I took the guys word for it as it looked pretty interesting Yeah I don't really care much for '11, Vantage is where it is at

 

3d11 is so boring, if they added a jane nash ( with low cut shirt ) running sequence to it then i'd be all over it.

 

Yeah man, should have don't Jane Nash 2.0 with tessellation for smooth and perfectly formed...oh hell you don't need me to finish here...

 

Hahaha, true, they should make an adult rated benchmark, that would be perfect to demonstrate all the post processing effects

 

pretty much what i have been saying...

give the article a read through and you will have your answers...

your problem isn't psu its your temps are far to high to be trying extreme over clocks...till you get those temps under control..your over clocks are being wasted. you should be able to run a 30k cpu test just like us.(provided your have an extreme that is)

it's because amd can circumvent tessellation, while nvidia can't. just like back when ati circumvented AA/AF. no way in hell you get better scores invoking that.

watching for this as well...

if you cpu would have held at something like 80C or lower...that would have been a 29k min

glad we could help

not high load but high temps..

these cards might pull about 110 maybe 115 and that's stretching it. the total watts are spread across components on the card.

i wasn't even pulling 300 watt's with 2 100 watt (rated) cards and a 85 watt cpu. (vantage)(seriously over clocked as well) but then my chip was like 85 watts/1.351V. not like the oems which are rated higher...so who knows there...

i think cpu draw was about 50 to 60 watts during the gpu test.(what those watts are doing...is anyone's guess..

im going to have to concur here as well....but also not the expert at this watt/ usage ratio...i can only go by my kilowatt meter.

 

^^Very useful infos. So at what temperature does the CPU start to throttle?

 

around 95 to 97 depending on how many scores those numbers sit on and past the 28 sec turbo timer.(should you make it that far)

if your throttle is set at 85...you need to stay below that...
but this is usually the temp sensor you dont see on the mobiles.
example: your hot high core will be at 95 but the test still runs and doesn't drop....but during this time..the tcase temp is now touching 85C...now you start to see your multies start to drop.... this is why the temp is raised so you can hold a high temp over clock longer...or just long enough to finish the test.


again..we are mainly benching for speed...if your over clocking for quality...that is basically a whole nother way of over clocking. to many people get these two confused.

highest stable over clock and flat out numbers chasing over clock.

 

240watt only

will try wit 330watt

which means have to control the temp to get high score ya. hmm..
btw... i running daily at 105*45. but TDP will not set so high yo.

 

would like to see your scoring with wprime155 with that over clock. you should be able to pull off 175 seconds...so give it a go and report back.

 

Hey John,

I was just wondering your insights between the 580M vs the 6990M?
In terms of benching and gaming power is there much between the two or are they pretty much dead even? Which one do you prefer and why after your experiences?

Cheers.

 

32mb or 1024mb?