*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

Hahaha thats awesome John, lol. Fiance relies on me to fix it when she breaks it. I bought her current laptop after her Toshiba Satalite was crap and died according to her. So I grabbed an Inspiron 1545 from Best buy. I had to wash dried soda out of the keyboard on the Toshiba, and since I figured it was junk, I took the keyboard off and just washed it in the sink lol. Then air dried it for a day. When I type I need the keys to pop back up lol. I'm going to bench that thing hahaha

 

i had one like that...did the same thing, but the keys still acted funny. so i broke out the usb keyboard and had at it.

 

Haha, exactly why I got one. Though I got it so I could surf NBR and HWbot on the couch while using the M17x hooked up to my projector. NBR on a 50" screen! lol

 

MOAR NBR

lol

I originally got my cheap logitech keyboard/mouse for the HTPC. Then I caved and got a DiNovo Edge

Now the cheap set is relegated to chest freezer benching set-up lol (see, I made it on topic still! haha)

 

im so far off topic i cant help it...i dont have an aw..yet

 

HEY JOHN,

Just picked up a m17x from the outlet you need to call them up and see what they have in stock and use the 20% off code...i convinced the guy to take 23% off.

DR650se...i am going to get my 4.0ghz and i won't need any slack from you guys lolz.

here is the info on outlet

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m15x/524538-dell-alienware-20-off-outlet-coupon.html

my specs

i7 720qm
crossfire 5870
4gb
640gb raid
RGB
6300n

Estimated Delivery Date: 10/18/2010
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How much was that outlet M17x? Specs are outstanding!

 

$1490 pre tax and pre warranty 3 yr CC, slap in some tax and $389 for a warranty and grand total is $1964 shipped....hmmmm might need to return the system and have dell convince me why i should keep it :wink:

 

i just seen one at frys for that amount...they said they are trying to get rid of them...making way for the new aw's to come in.

 

hey let me know what specs that was and this is the one i saw on frys.com i am sure store inventory is different but did the store model come with crossfire 5870 and RGB. I have family in Dallas and might have them check to see if any m17x in stock to snatch up and return the outlet model.

FRYS.com|Alienware

Also even with the new GPU refresh i would imagine they would sell for $2300-$2500 for a crossfire setup with RGB. I wonder if the 6xxx series is a jump big enough to justify a 30%-50% bump in price from what i paid in the outlet. I wonder how much bump in performance we should expect from the higher bandwidth. You can never keep up with tech but always nice to know what to expect

thanks

 

The frys model looks the exact same as the MicroCenter one (dam you john for getting both!) at a comparable price.

My only complaint with them both.....the screen

And I would be happy with that price Faiz lol (my M17x after the warranty upgrade and other stuff is pushing $4k - and I got the cpu cheap......)

 

The new one will have more than just a new GPU added.

 

Agreed.....thus the wait (most likely until new CPU architecture from intel)

 

Oh yeah a sandy bridge with newer gpu's would be spanking the r1 and r2 all over the place. I was thinking they might come up with a slight GPU refresh before coming out with a full CPU n GPU refresh...this will be interesting to see how this all plays out and if CES will have any effect.


@scook: thanks man just need to enjoy the machine and not worry about trying to be on the bleeding edge everytime...more things to loose sleep over than having the latest and greatest for that short amount of time. ETD was 10/18 and now been bumped up to 10/15 FRIDAY.

 

Wow I've been out of the loop for some time!
Been SUPER busy as of late, so barely have had NBR time. Now I'm too lazy to checkmyself.. but what needs to be done to update my stuff (as in what needs to be updated).
Bios - A06
Driver Version - atiumday 8.763.0.0

Let me know
Seriously cbf reflashing cards though.

 

Hey theres cheifs.

Yeh just the 3 updates really.

System BIOS A09.
WHQL VBIOS for 5870s (If you used the beta flash last time you don't have to re-do it again)
and the WHQL Dell Driver.

Cheers.

 

Got myself a R2 after having all sorts of problems with the R1.

With 2x260 and Q9000 i pulled around 12500 in 3Dmarko6 on the R1
Got an ES QX9200, and maxed out at 14300.

In this new rig i have 920XM, XFire 4870's and with the stock 5% OC in BIOS i maxed out at 18150. Quite a nice jump in performance.

 

scook9:
shoot. i didn't get that one...i was sure as looking at it though...lol

faiz23:
and frys is funny. since half of them know me over in the laptop/vga section...we just be chatting it up. then they turned me on to that one. it's a fully spec'd machine with 720qm and i think you add like 40 to 80 bucks for a 2 year extended warranty. not to bad...but it's also...open box. (we all know how that is)
i was not impressed with that screen! not at all!

and as of right now....a 6870 isn't beating a gtx470....but we will wait a month before we all start bashing new cards. usually takes like 2 to 4 months to actually get them working right to begin with...

and joker5150:
hannstar in action
g73jh



side note:
that tiny azz chip in front of the crystal..IS the ics chip.
so soldering is not an option for a pin mod...

 

No confidence in your soldering skills?

lol

 

not in it being that small. no faith what so ever. and no data sheet either.
those legs are 5 times smaller than the bios chips legs..bios chip is right there with the purple dot on it.(as far as i can tell)

 

Guess you will just have to buy that MSI then lol

Unless you are ready to become an AW owner finally after all your lurking haha

 

if you guys wern't here..i wouldn't be here.

 

I just rebenched my i5 540M which can really overclock and very stable. Picked up 6 global points

Also boosted my score a little bit in 3DMark2001 and Aquamark, but the system only responds to CPU OC as far as I can tell and I was benching both at 4GHz+

 

hummmmmm and i think i understand why
2 cores. 4 threads vs all the 2 cores/2 thread chips.

nice!

 

Haha, exacty, Annnnnnd Unlocked TDP/TDC! It never occured to me that the TDP might be unlocked on a sub XM CPU, but this one was I just opened throttle stop out of habit and was suprised when I saw a 25W TDP, so naturally I bumped it up to 100W. Then I blew up the bus speed, and was able to use use the 21 multiplier. Core 0 has a max of 23, but since Core 1 was a 21 max, I guess thats where it sat.

 

then you should be able to run the 23 on single core and get a few extra points on super pi and pifast

 

Ahh, good point, I should have left it in the system lol, although I already have the top scores in those catagories, but I don't think I'm close to any global points

 

that's cool then...you just know you have some over head room left is all..

 

Well my 9400m is benched!

Numbers can be found here

Now I have to do all of the single 4870 runs. It looks like crossfire in xp is still a no-go sadly

 

NIce job on that scook, I say that while I was at work. Rackin up them gold cups! Good luck on the 4870.

 

Hopefully being able to install xp will give me the edge I need to beat out CodeBreaker lol

Pretty much be me and him butting heads for the single 4870 cups

 

lol, sounds like me and john on the 920, 720, and 5870. I've lost a number of cups that way lol

Be great if XP does help, especially since in 3DMark is CPU dependant. I need to figure out how to install it, just been to lazy.

 

He is a fierce competitor!

 

XP gives a measurable boost in all but Vantage and I will need whatever I can get against the i7 monster (now that you can unlock your TDPs)

My main concern is that the hit in memory bandwidth that I take when overclocking with ThrottleStop seems to also hurt the scores in 01/03/05. I was getting a little lower scores at 4 Ghz than I was at 3.33 GHz.

I will be playing with booting a low fsb high multi and then using NST to step it up. Hopefully NST does not suck as much in XP as it did in Win 7 for this. God I wish SetFSB worked on nvidia chipsets

 

Hmm, I bet the mem bandwith is my issue for aqua mark and 01. I can't get close to johns scores for the 5870, even though my CPU is at a much higher clock. Hmm...

Yea unlocked TDP is great assuming it stays cool. but you definately need some help going agaist the 920XM. I'll keep an eye out for the scores.

 

Do some tests with MaxxMem and see if ThrottleStop is effecting your memory bandwidth. It is axing mine down to like 60% when I boost my multi

But I think the blame there is in the chipset and not ThrottleStop itself

 

I think I'll give that a shot when I get home, got less than a week here. But that might be the key to my scores. PCMark05, 3DMark2001, and Aquamark I think might be taking a hit from that. Thats definately on my to do list. I was giving it some thought the other day, and thinking that it was coming down to the memory. I've never messed with it before so I'tll take some reading.

 

Hmm, what happened to Johns points, yesterday on the team page I thought he had close to or over 100 pts for the month, now it's down to 68

 

I see 84 points for him
http://hwbot.org/community/team/evga_enthusiasts?tab=members

This may mean last 30 days as month though and not calendar months, so day to day it would vary

 

Ahh ok now I get it, maybe I have a dyslexic Alienware, because I see 68.4

 

good job scook!

i just like to hang around the top with the best.

well..i can't touch any of you guys gpu clocks..so that has me at a slight disadvantage there.
not sure why all the problems running aquakmark though

use throttle stop only for changing the tdp and tdc.
i never really looked into that much..as to how hard it was hitting...ill have to check that out to be sure.

yep, it's a day to day thing.

could be a cache thing like sam told me.


hummm, maybe i need to take a look at your machine again dr650. you only need one gpu.

 

Yea, I noticed that you couldn't raise your clocks higher, definately tried to take advantage of that. Even in Unigine I don't think OCing that high made much differance. I got the exact same score as you with a 930 core OC. 426.63pts

Probably is a cache thing. Sometimes I have to force recalculate. That the reason i have a bunch of achievements from the same day.

I re-ran Aquamark and was able to manage a almost 27K CPU score (4069MHz), but the GPU score didn't scale much. Only gained 2.5K. Once I get home I'll have to do some research and testing. My screenshot caught it when the multiplier downclocked to 28 and I didn't catch it.

 

The only score that matters is the TriScore based on the triangles calculation

 

Hmm, must calculate triangles faster!!

 

dx9/11 are based off of how high you over clock your gpu and not so much cpu....

yep. those cpu/gpu scores in the middle mean nothing really. and can even be left blank at times, but you still get your fps score when done.

aquakmark is base on the cpu over clock as well...you may have something else taking from it....

 

DX9/DX11 were both run at 930/1200, and aquamark was benched on a diagnostic startup so maybe 16 processes running. Could it be possible that in starting up I'm excluding a much needed service?

 

LOL well it is just the two of us for that section. Man is it going to be tough especially with your CPU OC

Have you benched any of them yet?

 

it's probably ccc is the problem....

i would test it but i rma'd my machine

 

Yea, definately possible, I will give it a shot after uninstalling, maybe tommorrow. I tried messing with the settings and setting them all to "Performance" and it didn't help. Tommorrow I'll take another shot at it, but then time to start packing

 

I start tonight. But for many of them I most likely will not be up at 4.16 Ghz since the memory bandwidth is too important. Tonight I will do them at 3.33 then this weekend maybe I will throw it in the freezer and give 4.16 a go