Nice! Your GPU core clock isn't even that high. I'm definately going to be getting on board with those drivers on my benching SSD once I get home. As far as gaming, my OS will probably stick to the dell stock drivers, as I havn't had any issues with the so far.
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obvious dumb question but are you guys raising the voltage on the video card to get those clocks? i cant seem to raise them much over 850/1150 without it blue screening. if so, what program do you use to raise the voltage?
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3d Mark 11, 4806. 90 TDP, 850/1150
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Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate
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Use RBE Bios editor. in the voltage, you can take it from 1.05v to 1.1v or 1.15v. You can't do 1.11v, 1.07v, just those thre options 1.05v(default), 1.1v or 1.15v. 1.2 will result in BSOD. Just edit the bios with RBE, save it, and reflash
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Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate
Cool! Thanks for that DR650SE.
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Yea, it would definately help. I know most people advise that you should copy the bios of each card, and then make a copy of that so you have an original copy of each card, but typically I'll copy one bios, and edit it and then flash to both cards. Maybe a little risky, but it's always worked for me so I've never seen any differance between slave and master vbios. But yea, the higer your voltage goes, the higer clocks you can reach. It will also increase your temps, but my cards never reached any temp worth worrying about when OCing and benching them. Here is a good guide to the flashing process. It's what I follow. It was posted by NWGuru (aka Mandrake) at notebook forums. Once you get the hang of it you can skip some steps if you'd like. It was written for the 4870's, but the process for the 5870's is exactly the same. Happy OCing
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steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate
There's also a Tech PowerUp guide for using RBE here: Tutorial on how to use RBE (Radeon BIOS Editor) | techPowerUp
I personally havent done / used it as it does slightly concern me that it would void my warranty.
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Awesome! Thats the way!
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steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate
They seem pretty damn good Jubbing....Im testing 'em out atm....they seem to rock. have a looksie here http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...11-2-mobility-released-get-yours-here-10.html last few pages regarding some metro 2033 benching.
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I gotta do something about my CPU, it's starting to heat up to much. Might be time for some new paste, it's on crappy paste. Also might consider the retention mod. Other than that, I didn't bench Vantage with the CPU OCed, but here is just the GPU. Pretty good GPU score. GPU = 19036
Quick question. Can anyone direct me on how to get the system working with Riva Tuner? I've messed with it before, but had uninstalled it and it's been a long time since I've messed with it. Tried following Jokers guide to o avail. Suggestions? -
Regarding short/long duration power limit,
BIOS will ignore any value over the TDP (long) or TDP*1.25 (short), and TDP is 45W.
As these values are set to max by Dell, this setting is currently only useful for underclocking the CPU.
Hopefully TheWiz will get the r3 BIOS-mod project rolling relatively soon.
EDIT: Also, the memory timings can only be used to underclock at the moment. Even with 1333 c7 / 1600 c9 hyperX, the best I can achieve by changing timings is 1066 c7, regardless of other settings.
Maybe it's the ram, but I doubt it.
Using XMP nets rated speeds/timings, and the non-OEM i7's can manage 1600 c7 via xmp + manual frequency, but not manual frequency + timings, or xmp + timings. -
Well here is what I've been able to come up with so far. 3DMark11 isn't too great, but I gotta figure out why I can't get Riva Tuner working right. Also seem to be hitting the PSU limits a little too often. Maybe a replacement? Well heres what I got so far. For 3DMark11 I didn't really have the CPU OCed though.
Check out the GPU score
P19635
GPU: 19306
CPU: 20681
3DMark11
P5246
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Has anyone tried benching warhammer online?
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Heres a few more benchmarks from the last few days. Thought it may be if interest
At least to me it is
All these runs were done on stock cooling as well, with no external cooling source, and laptop completely put together. In the past I benched with the notebook naked, not this time.
Vantage: P19838
GPU: 19478
CPU: 21004
3DMark06 - 18040 Single GPU
SM2.0: 6913
SM3.0: 7954
CPU: 6191
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there are pretty hot scores, I think you are the closest to 20,000 for gpu score
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DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso
Here's some numbers for my R3, specs in my signature:
Vantage: P10036
GPU: 8800
CPU: 17346
3DMark06: 16231
SM2.0: 6648
SM3.0: 6960
CPU: 5154
I think this things got more in it as the CPU was at stock with no XMP ram in those runs but I can't find a single program to read/mod the Vbios of the GPU and am hitting a voltage wall on the core. -
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Will doing these benchmarks ruin my system? Does it shorten my hardware's battery life? (i.e. like when we OC)?
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
It should not ruin a system unless you allow it to overheat many times and run at higher voltages/TDPs for extended amounts of time. If you are worried about the battery, just remove it. The system will run fine with no battery
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Just got my R3 in. I will be updating this post with benchmark scores (and pics eventually). I will be doing multiple resolutions and settings so give me some time
These benchmarks are from completely stock R3 except for adding in 8gb 1600 MHz ram (removed the 4 gb that came with it). I haven't updated video card drivers (if they are available) and haven't reinstalled Windows. I wanted to do this first so I have something to compare to.
3DMark06 -19,319 (1280 x 1024, Anti-Aliasing: None, Filtering: Optimal)
- SM2.0 Score: 7930
- HDR/SM3.0: 8481
- CPU Score: 5811
3DMark Vantage - P12327 (1280 x 1024)
- GPU Score: 10922
- CPU Score: 20069
3DMark 11 *updated* - P3100 (1280 x 720) The GPU score seems to match a score from http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6970M.43077.0.html for the Racer...
- GPU Score: 2819
- Physics Score: 6980
- Combined Score: 2862
PCMark Vantage -9616 PCMarks
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
That 6970m is a beast.....so far it is looking like a stock 6970m=CF 4870s
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nice cpu score considering it's a 2720qm..but I am sure your gpu could do better...
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So as the rumored pics before the actual release suggested, 6970m does extremely well!
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3DMark 11 GPU score for the 6970M is lower than I expected. 5870M Xfire gets about 4200-4500 stock and ~5500+ overclocked.
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steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate
Yeah, those scores do seem rather low ..... even my rig pulls 4k+ at stock on mark'11 (total score).....3dmark 06 obviously rocks due to the SB cpu. -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I think the 3DMark11 score is low because he ran it at 1280x1024 when the default is 1280x720 (720p).
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Working on overclocking the GPU. MSI Afterburner wont allow me to change anything even when I edit the .cfg file. Trying other options. Hmm, wireless not working anymore...
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Use rivatuner to overclock it. Though it will involve several steps before it may work (like dumping the bios file, installing rivatuner, rbe to detect etc). You can google 5870M rivatuner overclocking to find some of the steps involved. Can you re-run 3DMark11 at default settings or was that a typo?
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Ya, I'll do all that after I re-install Windows. My wireless card decided to stop working so going to do it now since I had planned on it at some point.
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Hmm, so yesterday I finally caved in. I gave up my 4+ year old LG CU 500 phone, and picked up a Samsung Captivate. Gorgeous screen on it by the way, now I'm looking into ways to overclock the phone. I'm a nerd.
And to keep things on topic, zippys007 was 3DMark06 run at default? Those SB CPU's are look to be really nice since 3DMark06 is so CPU dependant. My mildly OCed CPU and OCed GPU (Single GPU run) put out a score of 18K, so stock, 19K looks good. -
I never changed any settings in any of the benchmarks so I assume they were all on Default. I'm going to double check when I reinstall windows.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Shame you got a Galaxy S...they are pretty poor unless you are going to do a custom ROM..... -
So what cell phone should one get, if he's on T-mobile? I was thinking of getting an unlocked overseas phone, but this year I don't want to shell any money out cuz of the money spent on a new lappy. So if I dont get unlocked, which is the best Tmobile contract phone?
Back on topic though, I think zippy might be getting "lower" numbers cuz the stock lappy comes underclocked/ undervolted by default according to the BIOS and according to the thread created by kunekaden, right? -
I updated my benchmark for 3DMark 11. I guess I did run it correctly before and just wrote the wrong resolution in my post.
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I guess 460m isn't that bad, 3d trade off is kinda worth it if you really want it(I like it).
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So is there a diff between benchmarks on the 460m with 3d screen vs. the regular 1080p screen? Or no?
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I just used the benchmark that Dane posted and compared it to zippy's.
On the other note I don't think the screen would affect the benchmarks but it would make some games smoother because it is capable of higher refresh rate(can handle up to 120fps while the regular one is capped at 60fps). I'm not really sure but thats what I know so far. -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
The low score for the 6970m in 3DMark11 is very suspect. I think that newer drivers will do alot to get it up where it should be.
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DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso
Also keep in mind that I pushed mine to the brink of what the system would take on both the GPU and CPU, if I could find a way to up the voltage of the GPU I could probably pull more but that's basically the max you can get with this config. His runs are at bone stock meaning he could spread the gap by probably a few thousand points more doing what I did to his. Don't get me wrong the 460m is an awesome card but it will never keep up with the 6970m in pure strength. -
I just have my M17x-R3 but when I launch HWinfo32, it tell me I have a Chipset Rev B2. Dell doesn't sent M17x-R3 now with the new chipset B3?
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
The new ones should be B3 but when did you get yours?
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Today !!!!!!
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Then you probably have a case to call Dell up and complain. I would make a thread to discuss this though as it does not belong in the Benchmark Thread
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Noted
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For those who didn't see it yet, there's a B2 chipset thread in the M17x section.
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DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso
When you compare a top tier card to a card that's competing for the top single card spot it's not going to look all that great. The difference between the 6970 and 460m in bench's is about 20% and even less in games. The 6970 is an absolute beast, but the 460m is still a great card especially when overclocked. -
Speaking of new drivers, the catalyst 11.4 Beta drivers show some improvement. Coming from 11.2, my Vantage GPU went from 15,300 to about 15,900 (GPU and CPU are not overclocked). Gonna try 3dmark11 later with it since I'm using a new hard drive.
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Dane are you sure about that 20% figure? I think the difference would be closer to 50-100%.
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