*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

it is a factor but not for a 0.13 ghz difference. the time from bios to win splashscreen cant cause so high temps difference between 3.2 and 3.3 ghz. i believe its the voltage that OEM and no OEM work.

 

Lower temps will always let it go lower. Yes it does not heat it up as much but still at the electron level there is a huge party going on

If you took the IHS off and liquid cooled it you could probably hit 3.5

 

voltage absolutely matters, but so does heat

no matter how much voltage you give a processor, it will still not go faster unless the heat is very well managed. In addition to higher voltage enabling overclocks, lower heat is just as important

 

increasing voltage is like brute force overclocking

You can go so much further if you reduce the vibrations caused by the heated up electrons

 

or you can try to loosen your memory timing settings and see what happens..

or try booting in safe mode to see if it will boot fully


just a few things to try if you haven't already...

bios reset, then an over clock....

 

ok i ll put it in the fridge then and try again

anyway my highest stable cpu speed is 3.2 ghz. so accurate that i even wonder if it was preset to the maximum of 3.2 ghz. i think its good though as many Q9300 owners couldnt even reach 3 ghz if i am not wrong.

 

i think your looking at this wrong...
im not here to bash but give advice..
you don't know what will happen unless you go out and try.
each system is different and no two systems will bench the same.
it could be something as small as an os setting.
if you can boot linux or ms dos at 3.3 ghz...what does that say about ones system?

but like anything else....it's going to take time and patients to get to that 3.3 or maybe even 3.4.....but then...that's entirely up to the owner and how much time that person wants to spend trying to find out...

 

most low overclocking attemps were due to ignorance of the owners (not meant as an insult) not the inabilities of the hardware

putting it in a fridge will not suffice, you need a continual cold, like sitting on an AC unit or being outside in the cold

 

just as mr cook has put it...you want the good numbers...then no cooling idea is too far fetched....

 

Thats how I did it, 1 ft away from an AC in a room with two A/Cs running and it did make a differance. I also took the keyboard off so it wouldn't trap so much heat. It made a differance for the GPU's.

 

it all helps DR650SE!

but until people try some of these far fetched notions...they really wont understand it..... all we can do i share our experiences as we gain more by the day.

 

XP is slow to update

 

Going to try benching on XP? I wonder how that will work? Should be a little better scores I'd think.

 

download the sp3 as a standalone and keep it handy for times like these...

yep, xp does have it's place in the benching world...

 

wish it didn't. I'd rather run Vista.

 

i used to be around he downing XP. ask anyone.
not any more.

and i would rather bench windows 7, but like i was told...bench the correct os for the job or fall behind.....they didn't have to tell me twice.

 

I absolutely prefer using Vista/Win 7 over XP, but have to be open to new things

 

this is true...

like the old saying goes....your only as good as your tools....

 

I had the same issue when I first downloaded the game from Steam, I didnt understand why I was only get a frame rate average of 44 , googled RE5/SLI and there it was . Go into the proflies and change to SLI....wow 3 capped letters changed my game to high frame rates lol .

 

guys i appreciate your efforts and advices and of course i take them into account. I was just kidding with the fridge.

the point is that i am trying it at room temperature which are the conditions i usually use it at. I think there is no need to try at other conditions as i wont be able to use it at those conditions. I have cryo nzxt cooler as i told you before.

I dont think there is much more to do for cooling on a notebook. Maybe i could change the thermal paste? When the technician came he has put the thermal paste and it was so much like it was a desktop cpu. I think that less is better for this purpose right? he didnt even clear the previous thermal paste before applying the new one but what could i say to him.

 

Well so far I am having complete hell trying to get the GPU drivers loaded up in XP

I can only load the display drivers if I do the have disk method through the device manager and then I have no ability to enable crossfire (and ATI Tray Tools also does not function). Everything else in CCC appears to be working properly however.

Calling it a night, is 6 am here, will tackle this some more tomorrow.

 

are there xp drivers for the 4870s especially for M17X?

 

overclocked cpu stocked gpu better ram (thanks witcher)

do we still have to include everything?

 

It IS tomorrow.

I'm at work now!

 

Very nice. . . and if that's room temperature, then I am very interested in implementing the solution for day-to-day tasks.

 

i properly applied the MX-2 thermal paste. I cleaned the previous one first using a paste remover, then a surface purifier and then mx-2. lets see what will follow now. my temps with the QX9300 at 3.175 ghz. maximum temps are during play cod mw2

http://i50.tinypic.com/xsgef.jpg

what do you think guys? it takes a few thermal circles though for the thermal paste to achieve maximum performance.

 

i'll get up hwmontier and gpu-z to see the temps...

 

which benchmark is this?

 

it's farcry however i can't get my same scores.

i keep on locking up.

 

It's cool. . . temps are not needed. So long as that run took place in the normal environment of a residential room, I am very interested.

So, what was the RAM tweak?

 

Cinebench 11.5 benchmarktool released. They did an update because of the increasing cores on processors. Good way to test are new and shiny core i7's.

Get it here and post your results.

Also this: Updates are now available for 3DMark Vantage, 3DMark06, 3DMark05, 3DMark03, PCMark Vantage and PCMark 05 from the Futuremark website: http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/latest/

 

we have to install the whole farcry 2 game? its for farcry 1 or 2?

 

you have to iinstall the game. It's farcry2.

got sme ram from witcher. The other one was bad.

 

yeah this is for your benchmark. i found a benchmark inside game folder. i suppose its the same as it has the same settings. i will try in a while. i mean if farcry 1 is for Cinebench 11.5?

 

I'm confused. Lol.
it's farcry2.
the benchmark is in the folder installation. Just max out all your settings you see and do long ranch.

 

not maxed out. you have antialiasing off . i got much lower fps with them on

i will try exactly the same as yours and feedback

 

AA at 1200p is so moot, but if you want AA, you pay the price.

However, FarCry 2 is one of those games that does take advantage of DX10.1, meaning you guys should be able to use better anti-aliasing at a lower performance cost.

 

which are the games supporting 10.1? if there is any true visual difference with dx10 really.

 

The point of DX10.1 is further instructions etc. Without going into too much detail, getting MSAA without the performance hit is a primary benefit. But the game would have to support DX10.1, which very few games do support. Far Cry 2, happens to be one of those games.

 

i used to say the exact same thing when i had nvidia cards, but when testing..AA/AF is suppose to be mandatory for a maxed out run. (suppose to be anyway.. )

start with cat 9.2 then jump to 9.11 or 9.12 then 10.1.

you know don is the far cry 2 specialist right? lol!


edit:
although...i see a bunch of high and very high...but no ultra high settings in there....

 

I had no idea that it was mandatory, my bad. Sure, for benchmark results, you guys can define maxed out as such.

BTW: Why don't people run 3dmark and vantage at 1200p and with AA/AF?

Anyway, with all due respect to your hobby and craft, I won't let this thread's sub-culture define the basic concept of 'maxing out' a game, because to me, that involves the features and post-processing effects of said game in its menu. AA/AF is the additional crunch added on top. Some games don't even offer proper AA support. So I don't like to complicate the equation by throwing in things that don't always apply. Besides, I still find it moot at native resolutions. So if Don's tests are invalid, then maybe he should do a run with AA. Meanwhile, I'll play my copy without the unneeded glitz.

 

it's a wierd one kade....
benchmarking is really 3 categories.
1: speed
2: quality
3: stock performance (true stock is anyone's guess)

and since not everyone is honest..it has to be broken up as such. and since everyone's option on what should or should be will never agree...they're has to be some form of common ground to work with.

as to vantage... not everyone has the registered version. you can run extreme, remember.. . i know a few people have...but more FPS is the order of the day...lol

as to 3dmark06.. you can run the higher settings as well.. we use to run them, since our panels were 1920x1200 or 1080p..but for ranking purposes..that's whats expected. 1280x1024...and the free version doesn't allow yu to make changes..you have to run the default settings of 1280x1024.

side note:
don't get me wrong..i never use AA/AF when running at 1920x1200P..im like you...what for...i only do it when it's called for...

 

Fair enough. I kind of assumed that most of the benchmarkers here have keys to the good stuff (Vantage/3dMark).

 

sure..but not allot of them want to share those keys.
me and a few others have though...i shared my vantage key with about 20+ members. so they could test their machines for benchmarking purposes.

side note:
that's a big negative!..most people feel spending 20 bucks on benching software is ludacris.rotflmao! (speculation from what i have seen posted over the last 2 years about this)

 

here is my benchmark with ULTRA HIGH

it seems that minimum was for a while during a stutter maybe

 

really. i wonder if i missed something. i'll check again and compare it.

 

depends on which settings you did first...dx10/display settings then the overall quality settings. they will switch around...happen to me a few times

just ran crysis very high and got 30 fps for half of my 5970. cpu sitting at 4.4 ghz and gpu stock.
so it's looking like over clocked 4870m's are just as good as a stock hd 5870

 

i'll try some crysis runs and see what happens...

what driver do you recommend?
i still have some from my whitebook....

 

i finally got it working on one gpu...had to do some driver manipulations.

running far cry 2 now


9.12

far cry 2 / 89.93 fps on ultra 4.4 ghz and stock gpu 1920x1200

 

any comments for my score?