I switched to Vista and now Bioshock 2 runs like garbage. I had a solid 60 fps before. Now I get 40. Anyone else playing this game?
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
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was hoping he would run that before he passed out....
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
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If you get flickering on one card yours is worse than mine. I have no idea how you would have hit 20K+ in 06 with flickering dragging you down. -
Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
When I was hitting 20K+ was before I did a fresh install of Windows 7. You remembered when I said I didn't get much flickering? Thats why I asked if you knew how to restore the system from a fresh install. -
Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
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So you never were able to re-spawn it back?
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
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test in mandrake i wanna see what kinda scores it gets!
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The 920xm draws so much power that combined with RGB LED + dual 4870s, the PSU simply runs out of juice and the system has to throttle the CPU at some point to prevent it from haulting. The new bios raises the throttle limit to where 99.9% of people won't see any flickering/throttling but there's always that .1% like Mandrake that will probably push the CPU/GPU to the limit and see some throttling. The 5870 xfire will do a lot in helping relieve this since they draw less power. That alone might compel me to sell my 4870s and grab those.
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
I'm actually getting flickering just running a single card. And all I am doing is browsing the internet and posting here on NBR. It's something else.
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Well hopefully the new bios solves it for you. I'm on a single card right now and it's not flickering at all. BTW guys the reason our CPU scores aren't going up with overclocking is because they are being throttled! I ran throtlestop + logging turned on and here's what I found: http://www.sendspace.com/file/or9wg7
My CPU does run hot though, I'd say 80C with 5% bios OC + overvolting + evga eleet (x26 mult). I've read about Intel adding throttling to their CPU's should they reach 80C and other Clevo owners with 920xm's have experienced the same phenomenon. Right now I'm uncertain whether this is a Dell bios restriction or the CPU itself due to the 80C threshold.
Clevo reference threads:
1. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5883291&postcount=2099
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
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yes I will update.
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Have I missed anyone else besides joker?
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BTW for those that want to do software overclocking: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5827254&postcount=1668
To get above 620+ you need to flash the higher voltage. Once you do that, software OC'ing should get you what you want via rivatuner. It's much easier than setting it in increments via bios flashes. -
Default voltage on the 5870 is 1.15. I thought it was supposed to save power, lol.
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Hah really? Well that might explain why they are so hot. BTW I had someone run vantage on an i820 on the M15x, take a look at this, its quite depressing:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/jubbing/mark1.png
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A 920 will hit 35K with physx.
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What about the fact that you were hitting 20k+ on the 920xm with the G73? Something is not working as it should.
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
I think the new AW laptop that will be coming out will have a complete revision all together.
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can you pull out one of your cards ren?
and the other thing...
can you set the qpi to 133 mhz and not 140 mhz...that might be why your score is different as well. or keep it at 133.
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or turn off turbo boost and run a higher multiplier and see if that helps to compensate....
so far what jumps out is the qpi difference between the two laptops.
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there is someone around here who can get past that...they did it on a clevo if im not mistaken. they altered the acpi tables to bypass the early throttle detection....not sure how well that would go over here....
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
The fact that the 5870s has 1.15V on the GPU does not mean it will draw more power. The advances in power saving are in less current being drawn, not less voltage being used. They could use less voltage if they wanted but would have to sacrifice clock speed to do so. The fact that the stock voltage of the 5870 is 1.15 where the 4870 is 1.10 makes it even less impressive really.....
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
i believe the chipset for the g73 is a hm55...
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G73 is HM55 but it has nothing to do with the chipset. It's all about the bios and getting around the Intel throttling protection. Just to put the final nail in the proverbial coffin, evga eleet is useless for the R2. This was with the bios 5% OC enabled, as you can see evga eleet does jack for turbo mode OC'ing:
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man, you know the resize police are going to come in here and delete that....lol
looks like your turbo is broke as well..notice you dont see not even one core at x25. and that's what the 5% thing is for..for pushing one core to 3.2 ghz.
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I don't think it's broken in as much that the intel throttling scheme is just prohibiting turbo mode from going above a certain level due to temps. Asus G73 has that bypass built into the bios, that's what we need but I doubt we'll ever get it. -
well that really sucks then!!
ok, what about this....
i see you have right mark installed. does it work?
to see the actual throttle work..the cpu will drop in speed as was posted in one of the earlier links you posted. do you see that at 80C and below?
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
that's the million dollar question everyone is dying to know.
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
The recovery discs are intellectual property so downloading/sharing discussion isn't allowed here. You can do that via PM if you wish.
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cant stress that enough.
make a back up copy of the original partition set and never delete the restore partition....
*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3
Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BatBoy, Jan 30, 2010.