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    *OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BatBoy, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    War try this method.

    1) Click Start , highlight Computer and right click and choose propertites, click Devices manager and then Display adaptors.

    2) Now go to the display devices and right click and uninstall both drivers and make sure you CHECKED DELETE Driver too. Once you do both of the install on both cards, restart.

    3) Now, install the Dell OEM Driver and restart. Once you logged back in, install the 9.12. Let me know if it works out for you.
     
  2. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Wish that worked in XP Rengsey :(

    I tried all sorts of stuff to no end, got some other driver version I will try later when I got time

    Watercooling gear for desktop all came in so that will keep me busy for the immediate future
     
  3. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    well get cha water cooling on... :)
     
  4. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    compression fittings are simply beautiful :)
     
  5. rolex1

    rolex1 Notebook Consultant

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    hmm open the m17x till the processor is bare, then direct your water cooling pipe with the part that attaches it to the processor onto QX9300 :D

    If only it were so simple hey
     
  6. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    the cooling for the M17x is easily already more than enough...the limiting factor here is voltage for us :( I can boot 3.33 GHz 99% of the time just fine a room temperature. Going further is a matter of voltage not temps

    And a brave enough person could easily watercool both gpus as well as the CPU in the M17x, just take out the keyboard, touchpanel, and that huge magnesium panel and the are all exposed and ready to go.
     
  7. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah bro, this is exactly what I did (got it from another post of yours too). Doesn't fix it. Must be some weird thing. I don't care though. I ran a few games and all work a great deal more than the 260s now. You notice the difference right away.

    But to make sure, scores are what should be expected all stock, no? 720QM and Crossfire btw.
     
  8. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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  9. rolex1

    rolex1 Notebook Consultant

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    You have to admit though, its an interesting concept, we can already get the temps low by taking it out in the cold, but imagine how low it could be if the watercooling system was left running in that cold temprature, so that the water temp drops to the ambient temprature.. lol put some antifreeze in it and your good to go.. lol 10 degrees C running temps!

    Have you used water cooling before? one thing you will notice is that the cooling is not always a simple setup, all depends on how well your air flows to the radiators, and you'll notice on extremely hot days the water temprature sits alot higher, but then again its still much better that the alternative (air) even on those hot days.
     
  10. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Ya I have done my homework on it all. Been talking to John a lot and also members over at xtreme systems. Just need to get some radiators that actually fit where I want them and I will be golden (the drawback of trying to watercool a powerful system in a mATX chassis haha).
     
  11. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    If you cut out a chunk of the aluminum out the sides then had it flatyou could easily water cool the gpus

    also the CPU would have a tube out the back


    Put compression fittings so they seal up when you take then off and then leave the fans in there to use on the go ...
     
  12. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Desktop talk invades again.
     
  13. rolex1

    rolex1 Notebook Consultant

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    lol were tryna bring a desktop cooling mechanism over to the laptop world.
    I personally think its such an easy addition.
    Picture this:
    You have a small cover on the bottom of the laptop which houses an extension of the heatsink. A simple flat copper plate which is attatched to the heatsink itself(by the same copper piping you see running through the laptop).
    Place a compression fitting onto it which runs to an external water cooling radiator.
    Now this may not be as effective as a direct connection to each chip, but im sure its affect will still be plausible. And the possibilities are endless..
    You could nitrogen cool the radiator.. rather then the processor itself..(lol ofcourse you couldnt dip it in nitrogen as it would freeze).
    And you could have these heatsink extensions for each component..
     
  14. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    I think you guys are losing it, and I thought I was crazy running two A/C's in Jan, removing the keyboard and sitting in a hoodie and sweats. :p
     
  15. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    You need to start simpler. The heatsinks are rather small. Manufacture something better and I would be very happy.
     
  16. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    the best thing is for an ac unit to pump cold air into the whole laptop. this would keep all ambient temps / heat sinks and fans blowing cold air over all the parts. getting it colder helps out allot, but to go super extreme..the temps have to be in the negative 60C and lower for you to start dropping 1.0 volts off your cpu over clock. and for the gpu's to run optimal, about -20c and lower.


    ps

    someone already did ln2 on a laptop... :)
    masell over at xtremesystems.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums//showthread.php?t=187131
    [​IMG]

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  17. Joebarchuck

    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    There is a technology out there that is experimental at Toshiba if I remember. I will link it to this post once I find it again. It's a nanotube cooling device. It's basically the thickness of sheet of paper and when electricty runs through it the material cools up to negative temperature.

    If it becomes a commercial product one day we won't have any more heat issues. Right now from what I remember the materials cost in the millions of dollars to make therefore it's not a viable commercial product yet.
     
  18. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    What is that a Dell D820 or 620? Why bother with that system?
     
  19. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    its extreme
     
  20. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The answer probably is he didn't care if he ruined that system. :p
     
  21. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Hmm Wonder if complete care would cover that since the ice accidentally spilled onto the motherboard?
     
  22. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yes if not just actually drop it but thats fraud ;)
     
  23. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    the same reason why you spent all the money you did and stood out in freezing weather. only he used a ln2 pot to do it. :D
     
  24. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    920 installed with 5% OC..

    [​IMG]


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    1920x1200 run ....

    [​IMG]
     
  25. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    my man, mr quadzilla!!
    nice 1920x1200
     
  26. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Did anyone test the battery life with the R2 system? What's the range min-max?
     
  27. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Quad, any flickering?
     
  28. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Battery question in the benchmarking thread? Come on now. ;) :p
     
  29. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just tested it, ~1.5 hours.
     
  30. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    :D Why not? To me it's a far more important bench than a 14k in Vantage :p
     
  31. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    blasphemy! :p
     
  32. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    With what CPU?
     
  33. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    No flickering during the Vantage and 06 runs but in game benches like Resident Evil and FarCry2 are so bad that its destroying the framerates...

    The 920 makes the whole machine feel different though and im blown away by the performance difference in every game i have tried....

    Downside is its even noisier then ever lol..... :(.....
     
  34. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    100%
    My R2 replacement is two weeks away and I'm afraid they won't upgrade it from P8700 to 920XM.... so the only benching I could participate in is the "battery life for losers" :p
     
  35. Johnksss

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    you can always replace the fans with ultra quite ones....
    the problem....

    finding some that fit.
     
  36. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    720M Here.

    I had PDFs, Chome, music, and Excel running if it makes a difference.
     
  37. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah it would be great to find some...

    I would happily run 10-15 degrees hotter on the GPUs to keep the noise down...

    The CPU though hits 80 and thats with MX-3 on it so running the fan to much slower might really bring the temps up to high....
     
  38. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Will ultra quiet fans stay quiet with ultra dust on em? ;)
    Seriously that's a good idea. Maybe the current ones can be modded a little in the worst case scenario...
     
  39. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    That's impressive. I'm positive that with a reduced brightness and min apps running you could go past 2hrs. Very nice indeed.
     
  40. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    The majority of the noise comes from the CPU fan anyway. If we could fit a bigger one in its place that pushes out equal or more cfm at lower rpm that would be perfect.
     
  41. Mandrake

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    Better heatsinks with smaller fans?
     
  42. 5150Joker

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    They could go the clevo route but AW is already shifting away from heavy notebooks so that won't ever happen. I suppose we could try copper modding. I'm going to watch moo's video to see how much clearance there is because I already forgot.
     
  43. Megacharge

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    Dell.ca is only giving me an i5 520M in my replacement because it's the closest thing to the P8600 my R1 came with so you'll probably get a 540M, but they did give me the RGB LED so I really can't complain.

    Side note: Anyone know if when you get a replacement for a reason such as a defective laptop, does the warranty start over again from the time you get the replacement?
     
  44. Mandrake

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    :eek: Could have fooled me. :p

    Nope. I've never received a replacement but from what I've seen others post you still only get the original warranty.
     
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    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Yup, plastic notebooks galore will be AW's future. Complete dellification and that's when I bail from the mothership in hopes of finding a worthy replacement.
     
  46. Megacharge

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    Ah ok, maybe I can get a deal out of them in extending the warranty then.
     
  47. Aikimox

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    I'd like to know that too as we are in the same boat ;)
     
  48. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no its keeps going :)
     
  49. the3vilGenius

    the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear

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    Not completely true. They reset my warranty to 4 years again because i was only a few months away when my problems started. So i geuss in most cases it keeps going but there are always execptions. Also is a core i5 the same price as a P8600? My T9600 was almost the same price as a P8600 and they wanted to replace it with a core i7 620 but after some insisting they replaced it with a core i7 820QM.
     
  50. deltaone45

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    we live i non exceptional world sir!
     
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