*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

I am pretty sure I am not making this up mandrake

Maybe Don can go search it, he is the best at searching for stray random posts haha

 

I remember 4Ghz in the M17 and -2 degree weather.

 

ya but I am talking about the M17x R1, you know, the system I DO have lol (dam limited voltage )

 

voltage can be over comed...but it's hard to get the cpu in the freezing range while the rest of the system stays about 10 to 20c

 

Since that system I bought the M17x w/4870s, M17xR2, M17and Asus G73. I can't remember that many laptops ago.

 

Pretty sure you still had the GTX 280m's at this point, if that helps lol

Back when we were going at it head to head in Vantage

 

then head to head took a turn for the worse...lol

side note..might be getting a phase change cooler...if i could attach that to a cpu run... which is actually doable for the clevo since only the bottom needs to be exposed.

the m17xr2 is a complete tear down isn't?

 

Yes, cpu is on the top below the magnesium cage.

 

i know you have pics..kind of rushing right now...but can it still run with the cpu exposed?

 

It was not that bad.... we were leapfrogging eachother. He definitely got me on the GTX 280m 06 score but I got him on the Vantage. And with the 4870s in the R1 I got his 06 score beat and higher overall Vantage but still need to beat his GPU in vantage

 

The CPU can be exposed if you just take off the mag cover and keyboard and touch panel. The keyboard and touchpanel will still need to be connected physically but they can be dangling

 

ok, so a usb keyboard and mouse would work, correct?

ahhh, ok...i gotcha. didn't know it was that close.

 

I do not know if the system will boot with the keyboard removed or not

 

Dont know if i can apply for a score here but the picture shows my R2 no OC vs my R1 heavy OC

 

You had a pretty good OC on that T9600!

Welcome back to computer owning and benching bliss!

 

Yeah good processor the T9600.
I almost forgot who jane nash was!

 

jane nash? i hate jane nash!

that stupid girl takes so damned long to load. kills any mood to bench especially if i have a failed run and have to rerun again which means waiting another year for jane to load her dumb level.

why cant she load like new calico or like the 06 levels

 

do like we did.....
buy an ssd...lol

 

It is too slow even with the SSD lol

 

yeah, actually your right...it really your ram...if you watch it while it loads...your hard drive light shouldn't even come on for the most part.

 

I finally got my M17x rig and am having a problem with ATi Crossfire, it simply doesn't appear to be working usually.

I made sure the the ATi CCC had Crossfire enabled and that the ATi Catalyst AI was on standard as recommended. My drivers are 8.68 which seems a bit old, but I have heard of problems with the 4870's with later drivers, so Dellienware feels they are the best tested.

I use Star Trek Online as my test, and am getting frame rate in the low 20's! Thinking it could just be inefficient coding on the developer's part I ran 3dmark06 and got a whopping 9649 3Dmarks

I naturally suspect stealth mode, and made sure it said it was disabled... but still no go. I suspect that for some reason the cards are not activating even though they show linked, same bios, etc. Twice in the same test spot in STO I had a frame rate in the low 30's as though Crossfire suddenly became active, but I am not sure what quite changed it.

So far I haven't called Dellienware's support, I prefer to learn the idiosyncrasies of my rigs and solve them if I can, but I have little experience yet with troubleshooting xfire, or laptop's for that matter. Any advice greatly appreciated, as I hang my head in shame with an M17x getting sub 10K 3dmarks

 

Post some screen shots of gpuz and cpu-z.

Also your full 3DMark06 score.

 

^Obviously do what he says before doing the following:

Use 10.3 drivers. Yes, I know a lot of people prefer the Dell ones, but my performance also wasn't what I expected. 10.3 will fix everything (including the freezing when you unplug the power adapter).

 

install dell and then 10.3 over it.

 

Okay, here's the scores pre 10.3:

Anyone know why they are shipping clearly out-of-date drivers? I would have thought the golden image drivers would be more current than that at least!

 

That score reflects a GPU issue like you suspected. Do what don said to do.

 

i am going to play with re5 and see what's up.

 

Weeiiirrrd....

Earlier I was getting flashing on the Crossfire setup.... and crappy scores. After xfire was disabled, re-enabled and just the Dellienware drivers loaded it now works as advertised without flicker I can't explain it because nothing seems out of order for routine troubleshooting measures with a gfx card issue.

I've been searching for a reliable comparison of benchmarks, but now it's pulling a reliable 14525 in 3dmark06.... I would guess that without OC'ing and using a lowly 820qm vs a 920qm it seems about right.... now where's that OC'ing guide

 

I don't have a 820qm, so I don't know what bios settings you have.

CPU: it should work for 820qm, but I don't know, so you have to try it. App to boost the multiplier, use EVGA E-LEET tuning software. It should display the default multi in one of the tab. From there, move it up by 1 till you get a BSOD , and you know that , that will be the limit , and maybe you need to find a proper cooling to advance.

GPU: I believe Don OC the GPU using AMD GPU TOOL or something with ATi Cat 10.3. Maybe he can enlight you since I don't have my m17x-R2.

 

The easiest way to OC the GPU is to first flash it to 1.15v using RBE to modify the bios and ATi flash. Then just use AMD GPU tool from that point on to dynamically change the clocks in Windows to whatever you desire. I change my clocks based on what game I'm playing on the fly. For Dirt 2 I use stock clocks but for GTA IV I push them up slightly to 600/920. It's nice to have software OC.

 

so your runs were overvolted?

i cant break 625/1088 right now.

 

where can i get 10.3 for win 7 64 and what amd gpu tool are you using? is it the ati tool from techpowerup?

 

yup. the one that says amd tool for 5870.

 

I max out at 670/1150 stable. Over that and I get artifacts and/or lockups.

 

That sucks.

 

well thats not overvolted.

 

WEll, I didn't overvolt my cards and I can run benches at 655/1120 all day. All the scores that I got, the cards were not overvolted.

 

The 820 cannot be OC'ed in the AW. The G73 would give the 820 a 7% OC. It can run any proc with the bclk OC'ed to 142Mhz. Imagine if we could reverse engineer their software.

 

Yes, I have discovered this to my dismay

Anyhow, non-OC'd this is the best benchmark so far:

I see *slight* flicker in the 3dmark06 tests, I don't know if the problem is just barely manifesting or that is "normal" for a Crossfire setup. However with gaming I don't see it at all.

EDIT: Correction - I see what might be slight flickering in 3dmark06 and in games, more of a flash... is this "normal" for Crossfire?

 

actually qx9300 overclocked outperforms the 820 i7.

 

really...?

 

Really john. And scook is the proof.

 

benchmark06 is the proof. scoop and me as well is the proof. overclocked i920 slightly outperforms oc qx9300 (i mean 5% overclock, not extreme overclock). even if the 820 can be overclocked i could hardly see it reach the overclocked (around 3.2 ghz) qx9300.

this is my best run till now.have a look. i even reached 3.32 ghz on the QX9300 but couldnt complete the benchmark06 as the program craches on cpu speeds over 3.2 ghz.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2q08xtf.png

 

didn't know a qx9300 could out do an i7 at video encoding/transcoding and decoding...wow..interesting.
games use like 2 cores at best.

but i learn something new every day.

 

Yes i think once you get to using 8 cores on the 820. how can the QX9300 compete with that?

 

well what i knew even before see the benchmarks was that i7 was only a selling trick. the intel motherboard is the big deal on the R2. not even the i7

some games say that work good on i7. well how much better?


even the price of an qx9300 in comparison with the i7 cores may have something to say. i dont swear for this though.

i may have to say that my brothers desktop with an i7 core with stock speed at 2.66ghz and an gtx260 860mb (faster than the 1gb one), and the rocking asus P6T motherboard scored around 16700 points on benchmark06.

 

I think he is talking about benchmark wise. I am sure when it comes to productivity, the i7 will be better.

 

the i7 is a tricky one to figure out.
if you run linx 4/4 you will get far more gflops and far less heat than running 4/8 with less gflops and far more heat.
but running something like encoding and decoding...that wierd azz hyperthreading starts to work. go figure.

it shows in vantage/and 3dmark06, but run 2001/2003/2005 and a heavily over clocked dual core will win.

 

yes i have to agree with that. decoding or encoding with more cores should be better for those who do those stuff but maximum performance is an other story. even in this case how can 8 cores with maximum 1.7ghz deal with a quad core set at 3.2ghz. What i believe actually is that tasks which dont need so much time-power should be faster on i7. heat is not an issue on the notebook even if its R1 or R2. In general is a difficult thing to figure out as you said. we are just talking about the benchmark.

i have seen some extended comparisons for numerous tasks like those you referred between the i7920 and the qx9300. i7 920 seemed to be slightly better than the qx9300 but the QX9300 wasnt overclocked at all while the i7 920 is automaticlly overclocking to 3ghz if i am not wrong.. but this is like the benchmark06. i think an i7 920 (not 5% overclocked) will have a better performance than a stock qx9300 (2.53ghz). i have never never run it on stock to see the score.

hyperthreading seems to help the ATIs reveal their power more than the cpu one. the overall score is low though. some games benchmarks should be helpful as well. especially the ones with i7 support like resident evil 5

one is for sure i7 cores are better from a power consumption point of view as they overclock when needed while the qx9300 is constantly overclocked. but i think the dual cores dont use the power that they use during cames do they? even the cpuz shows much lower ghz to me when the cpu is not hard used.

 

More C2D vs i7 talk. It's not comparing apples to apples. C2D is limited by the FSB and separate memory controller. C2D would never be able to compare since the memory for i7 has direct access to the CPU.