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    *OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BatBoy, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. dondadah88

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    i just lowered the multiplier and raised the fsb lets see what happens.
     
  2. the3vilGenius

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    My 3DMark 06 score is extremely low. Is that even normal.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. dondadah88

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    [​IMG]

    it does affect it.
     
  4. Aristotelhs2060

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    [​IMG]

    this is mine with 11x and stock fsb. just crap! i will try your latest settings as well
     
  5. Mandrake

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    The only number I can read is the overall score. What do the others say?
     
  6. the3vilGenius

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    sm2 score is 5735
    sm3 is 7164
    CPU score is 3477
     
  7. dondadah88

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    cpu seems low to me. seems o be running at the 720 level. but drake will have the final word.
     
  8. the3vilGenius

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    the rest of the numbers is scrambled a bit. dont know why. Also when a new scene loads there is a little stripes over the screen. but very short ant they dissapear when the scene starts
     
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    I get ±1100 in vantage

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Mandrake

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    Looks right. Here is the G73 w/i7-720QM stock:
    [​IMG]

    That also looks correct. 11500 should be expected.
     
  12. the3vilGenius

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    So it is normal? I had like 15000 with my 260s and T9600 OCd to the max
     
  13. Mandrake

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    yep, which ati driver are you using?
     
  14. Aristotelhs2060

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    he has the 820 though.
     
  16. Mandrake

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    Correct, his score was higher.
     
  18. Aristotelhs2060

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    i see. you are more than clear now. their fault then. i am going to purchase in the next 10 minutes.
     
  19. Mandrake

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    but are you sure you are going to get the right one from that seller?
     
  20. the3vilGenius

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    Ok thx. Just felt low ;)
    Im on stock drivers. I hvent had any trouble with them so for the moment they will do.
     
  21. Aristotelhs2060

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    its the same model type isnt it? i cant purchase from newegg where its also cheaper because i live in europe..
     
  22. Mandrake

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    but the description is wrong. Leaves it up for debate.
     
  23. Aristotelhs2060

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    you are right. description makes me concious.

    ok dondadah88 may help me.
     
  24. the3vilGenius

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    Offtopic»» nice avatar mandrake
     
  25. Mandrake

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    lol, I love BBT.
     
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    yes this is how madrake is like when waiting for new notebooks and they get delayed... lool
     
  27. cookinwitdiesel

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    Well sorry I am so late to the game here on the ram stuff, but here are my scores stock and overclocked:

    Stock
    [​IMG]

    Overclocked
    [​IMG]

    The fsb clearly makes a huge difference. And DAM that i7 memory controller spanks the FSB hardcore lol

    The Hynix stuff wont be much off this, but I do benching primarily and I like to remove any doubt that a component is limiting my scores, you do that by getting the best components. In this case, the HyperX is the best ram even if you will barely notice it ;)
     
  28. Mandrake

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    That's why i keep telling people you cannot compare the two types of procs. At the same time I'm sure my 920 isn't hurting my score. ;)
     
  29. cookinwitdiesel

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    Well, disregarding the memory abilities of the 2 architectures, our cpus are probably about comparable, if mine is not stronger haha. I am running 4 cores higher than your one core speed ;)

    But just like the difference between GDDR5 or GDDR3 on gpus, we have seen how much memory bandwidth effects core performance
     
  30. Mandrake

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    that's not true. :eek:
     
  31. Aristotelhs2060

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    not if its the i920 only. ddr5 gpus are faster because of their higher clocks, shaders etc.
     
  32. dondadah88

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    no. the shaders are the same. just the 5870 is stupid overclocked

    700/1000 vs 550/888
     
  33. Mandrake

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    I can do this at 3.5Ghz+

    [​IMG]
     
  34. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    What is BBT?
     
  35. Johnksss

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    tis is true...

    if it does i say grab it, but keep your original ram. it will run in your next high end laptop more than likely.

    xmp is just a set profile. you can still run the ram at its lower or higher rated speeds..provided the computer lets you do so with memory over clocking. xmp was mainly for extreme cpus. so you could multi up with out over clocking the ram out of spec.

    you can run those tech specs manually.. :) (provided the computer lets you manually manipulate the ram)

    now that i didn't know.

    1: your settings
    2: you have 4 gb vs 8 gb..you will never catch him on the first 3..ever.
    3: to catch the latency, you need to get off that 7-7-7-20 stuff and drop to like 5-5-5-15 or even 4-5-4-12 (again..laptop has to let you manipulate memory)

    that is pretty good....for someone running it at 1920x1200. now run it at 1280x1024 and see what you get.
    some are, but not all....
     
  36. Mandrake

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    Big Bang Theory.
     
  37. Mandrake

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    It can't that's why I said it turns it into cheap memory. ;)
     
  38. Johnksss

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    hummm, okay, ill go for that.

    can you down clock the ram to lets say...800 mhz or lower?

    side note:
    he can take that 1600 and down clock it to your 1333 and still have 267 mhz to work with on bclk.....if he could over clock bclk that is... :D
     
  39. cookinwitdiesel

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    the 1600 xmp stuff runs at cas 9 1333 in non xmp profiles John, it is crap
     
  40. Mandrake

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    He has a C2D system and 800Mhz on the mem would be the lowest.
     
  41. dondadah88

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    he didn't mention about the 1920*1200. of course that is why he score is low. he score is reall ygood for that run.
     
  42. the3vilGenius

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    [​IMG]

    3DMark 06 @ 1280x1028
     
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    take a closer look...
    see these 3 rows of speed?
    well friends...that's what you can run your ram at... :) all ram has them, the problem is the bios. so even if you have 9-9-9-3- you can more than likely run it at 7-7-7 or 6-6-6...some may take more voltage..others will run fine. take a look qat yours and tell me what your lowest state is.
    if i can run 1866 9-9-9-27 @ 6-6-6-18...im pretty sure you can too..provide the bios lets you...
    [​IMG]

    these are the things you wanted added to the bios when they get to talking about bios update...they help stabilize over clocks and allow for more head room.
     
  44. Aristotelhs2060

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    i never said i will through away the hynix ones.. what i liked the most on hyperX is the cooling absent from hynix. performance is today been proved to be relatively the same.

    1) what about my settings?

    2)thanks i wont pay 600 or more dollars for useless 4gb more.

    3) did you find any just ram for notebooks? i didnt... and this bios manipulation for the ram is nowhere to be found on notebooks so your suggestion is like utopia.
     
  45. Johnksss

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    huh?
    im just giving you an idea on where you stand. never said you had to buy 600 dollar ram.
    and you need the bios to change the cas, you can change the rest in windows and you can still gain about 10 ms by doing that
     
  46. Mandrake

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    Sure, as the freq changes so does the timings. That is nothing new. What we are discussing is running 1333 (666) memory at 7-7-7-20 and not 9-9-9-24. That is what the non-XMP HyperX memory gives us. If we cannot utilize the XMP profile to manipulate the timings we are stuck with the jedec standards. We had a whole thread about this last summer talking about this stuff.
     
  47. Mandrake

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    We were able to do it with the the M17.
     
  48. Johnksss

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    and did you try running that same memory at 7-6-6-15?
    and the timings dont change as you over clock..only the mhz do. :)

    can you test this mandrake? and see if it gives you in improvement in latency?
     
  49. Aristotelhs2060

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    ok well done. and the question how?
     
  50. the3vilGenius

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    Can you put my scores in the list Mandrake?
     
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