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    *OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BatBoy, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. jubbing

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    Now THAT is impressive to say the least.
     
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    Did single 5870s have the same vbios as the one on the crossfire setup?
     
  3. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Good question. I wonder if flashing the single GPU vbios to the crossfire would work. If they were differant than probably not, but I'd give it a shot if I had my system. Whats to lose?
     
  4. TheCodeBreaker

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    Thats exactly what i was thinking :p So far no one with the 920XM is willing to overclock the gpu. Its up to you and Mandrake :p when is your EDD?
     
  5. Aristotelhs2060

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    ok it was 5 in two days. loool. one of them was to test raid0 which gave me 500mb.sec read. what do you think? how much would such a configuration need to boot?
     
  6. stamatisx

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    It should be as low as 9-10 secs, I doubt it will go any lower. On the other hand you have the 920XM which will give you the advantage
     
  7. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    EDD on dells page is 15 July but the system already shipped so I should have it in the next week or so. I go home on leave though in a weekand a half so I'm hoping it gets here before than. Also have the 940 CPU on the way, but I don't think that will make it here before I go home. It will however be waiting for me when I get back so I should have some 940/5870 scores up in mid July. But I already have the 920 so I'll definately get some scores up.
     
  8. Aristotelhs2060

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    really noone? i thought i was the only one who didnt want to oc gpus. lool

    i ll try only 5% oc and not tuning utility as you said and see if it goes on stucking on loading.
     
  9. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Mine is sitting off next to me. :p

    My 920XM is still in my Asus. I can pull it today.

    Edit: OK, I swapped procs but Windows was corrupt after that. I'm reinstalling stuff now.

    Edit2: Stock 3DMark06 was 19.1K.
     
  10. Johnksss

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    over clocks dont make it through a reboot right mandrake?
     
  11. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    What do you mean? CPU multi?
     
  12. Johnksss

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    yes.......
     
  13. Mandrake

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    No they don't. I have to set it with evga eleet. The bclk freq does.
     
  14. Johnksss

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    if that was set when you changed cpu's...that would cause a corruption in the os. (speculation of course) with me switching my cpus and forgetting to change the bclk or multi, some would make it through after a few bsod...and others would just get worse..system restore to last working boot up or restore last known good configuration was what i did about 95 percent of the time.. i have about 10 different cpu's and boards.
     
  15. Mandrake

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    No it wasn't. One of the first things I do when swapping procs is reset bios to default. Regardless I had a 720QM installed and changing the bclk frequency is not an option with that processor.

    On a side note I think I might know why I have the failed posting issues. I need to do more testing but it looks like if you change your memory you need to reseat the processor. That's the only explanation I can come up with since I haven't had posting issues since upgrading my proc....at least not yet.
     
  16. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I haven't touched my GPU or external AC yet. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Dang nice Drake!
     
  18. Johnksss

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    now that makes allot of sense.
    i too have to either re seat the ram or cpu from time to time.
    in my case...ill get 4 gigs of ram instead of 6 gigs.

    not sure if you came across this problem yet?
     
  19. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    No but I've seen people complain in the G73 threads about not reading all their memory.

    If that is the answer to my posting issue I may just have to keep this system assuming there are not issues with games. ;)
     
  20. Johnksss

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    guess we will find out today huh? lol
     
  21. cookinwitdiesel

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    I do not see the boot times getting much lower than that one I posted unless you have a SLC drive (which StamatisX) does have....RAID will still be limited by the poor software raid setup

    And for the person with Vantage hanging up, you have no physx software on your system for the test to try to use. You have to have nvidia physx installed even though it will not be used to run the test. Download that from nvidia.com. You lack it since there is no nvidia gpu unlike the R1 where there is nvidia stuff

    Oh, and Mandrake, lets see some scores!
     
  22. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I'm trying to see if I can get 22K 3DMark06 without touching the GPU.
     
  23. Johnksss

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    im with mr cook...lets see the numbers...lol
     
  24. cookinwitdiesel

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    GPU will add only like 1000 at best anyways, that is pretty much a CPU benchmark that is just stratified by what GPUs you have
     
  25. Mandrake

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    Vantage GPU stock with the 920 is 13428. When I OC the proc it stays the same. 1000 points different from the 720 but makes no difference when OCing it....odd.
     
  26. Johnksss

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    could mean the cpu really isn't over clocking? maybe?
     
  27. Mandrake

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    Score raised with 3DMark06 when OC'ing the proc.
     
  28. Johnksss

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    which score?
    gpu over clocks are like 80 percent of test 5/6
    cpu over clocks are like 80 percent of test 1/2
     
  29. Mandrake

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    They all go up. The CPU score probably goes up the least 4400 > 4800 but the HDR score goes from 9800 > 10700.
     
  30. cookinwitdiesel

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    My theory about the effect of the 920xm is that it has to do with how the drivers are coded for the 5870m

    it may be utilizing the additional speed/cache somehow influencing the performance
     
  31. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Go for the Titanium Mandrake !!!!
     
  32. pdogg93

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    just out of curiousity, with the 4870's in xfire, does the gpu vantage (stock) score change when benching with an i7 720 then with a 920?
     
  33. cookinwitdiesel

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    That is an excellent question
     
  34. Mandrake

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    Some SSD benchmarks. You can see the Vertex LE does do better with 4K files.

    [​IMG]
     
  35. Mandrake

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    I can't find my remote to my AC unit for higher OC'ing. :(

    [​IMG]
     
  36. stamatisx

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    Scook, even though mine is SLC there are faster MLC drives (though I doubt the accuracy)
    Bench - SSD - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
    so theoretically they should outperform mine since benchmarks give them better result
     
  37. Sirhcz0r

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    We definitely need somebody to do this, I'd laugh if I was right even after all the criticism I recieved after saying that ATi's scale well with more cpu power.
     
  38. Mandrake

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    Very possible. I've heard this in the past with the older cards.
     
  39. TheCodeBreaker

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    There isn't much difference with the cpu. and i see my score my score still standing ;) As soon as i finish my finals, I will give the 5870s a harder challenge :p BTW nice scores.
     
  40. deltaone45

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    i suppose i could test this theory out for you guys hehe
     
  41. Sirhcz0r

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    Thanks a bunch; I will gladly concede defeat if I'm wrong, but having some finality feels better nonetheless.
     
  42. deltaone45

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    yeah give me a few hours my wifes using it and ill have to wait till she hits the sack before i pound a 5 hourenergy and start updating the 720 system to match this one. But ill do it with A05/10.5 that alright?
     
  43. pdogg93

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    thanks delta that will ne a useful test.
     
  44. Sirhcz0r

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    I assume the A05 BIOS and ATi 10.5 drivers are each the latest official ones, and if so that would be perfect.
     
  45. cookinwitdiesel

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    Mandrake, is that drive a sandforce controller?

    If so, I do not feel "left behind" with my G2 Intel drive
     
  46. 5150Joker

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    You should be pulling close to 16k with that 920xm in there. So far I've gotten around the same vantage score as you with an 820qm. I'm telling you guys, Vantage causes throttling in the 5870s at high clocks. No other benchmark or game exhibits this behavior. Turn on GPU-Z logging, set your clocks to about 900/1100 and watch that sucker throttle. I tried high clocks in Heaven (a more intense benchmark than vantage) and it has no throttling at all. If you guys gave up on Vantage and recognized it as a crappy benchmark and switched to something more solid like Heaven 2.1, then these benchmarks would be a bit more meaningful.
     
  47. Johnksss

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    a crappy benchmark is pretty harsh words..
    and when benching heaven.... you need to enable extreme tessellation.
    let me know how they fair then...im pretty curious about this. since the 5970 is getting beat by a single gpu card in this bench. wonder if it's the same here...thanks in advance.
     
  48. 5150Joker

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    It's not a good benchmarking tool for the 4870s or 5870s for the group that's here because of the throttling that occurs. It places an artificial ceiling on the score you can get. This behavior isn't exhibited in real gaming benchmarks or in Heaven. I'll do an extreme tesselation run for you now.
     
  49. Johnksss

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    def....fresh out of ideas on this one joker.
    does it throttle both test or just one?

    also...do these cards have a serious case of micro stuttering while running the bench?
     
  50. 5150Joker

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    The cards stutter a bit in both Heaven and Vantage. I don't see the same stuttering in any game though which is a bit weird. I chalk it up to the benchmark's being inefficient--no offense to my European friends but I don't really place much faith in game engines developed in Eastern Europe and Russia.

    Here's a heaven run with extreme mode. This score seems to beat out the desktop 5870 listed here: http://www.geeks3d.com/20100525/qui...-4-0-and-direct3d-11-in-extreme-tessellation/ This run was done at 860/1100 and at a higher resolution than the run that was done with the desktop 5870. Awesome wouldn't you say? :)
     

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