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    580m vs 6990m Benches

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Shaden, Jul 12, 2011.

  1. Shaden

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    Make sure your Cross fire is on in Catalyst Control Center ...

    Install 11.8 Drivers and 11.8 CAP profiles,

    Should be good to go
     
  2. rambetiko

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    thank you for answer

    i installed cap 3

    enabled crossfire
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    driver version

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  3. Aikimox

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    I'd like to join the 580s vs 6990s benching fun and will start with stock runs. Anyone with a 2920/2960 + 580M SLI setup to do comparison benches?
     
  4. Xeneize

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    Sure :) I'll run a stock lvl 3 cpu + stock gpu speed and post it.
     
  5. Shaden

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    awesome Aiki has already been busy at it... can't wait to see Xen
     
  6. Xeneize

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    Hey Xen, I think he is more looking at doing Game Benches, although maybe he will include the non game as well, vantage and mark11 etc ...
     
  8. Shaden

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    pop over to the benchmark thread and check out the last couple pages ...
     
  9. Aikimox

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    Xen, could you run a non-OCed CPU test as well?

    Here's mine, totally stock:

    Plus, I only have a trial Vantage. If someone has a space key - lemmie know ;)
     
  10. Shaden

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    Something isnt right there .... xen scored .2k better in CPU and 500 better in gpu .... and of course in vantage gpu scores scale based on cpu performance ... maybe need to avg out a few runs ....
     
  11. Shaden

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    Ooooooh i see aiki you dont have cpu oc on ... prob best that way
     
  12. ARGH

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    only benchmarks that matter;

    -heaven 2.5
    -metro
    -crysis
    -crysis warhead
    -crysis 2
    -3dmark11
    -BF3 beta or retail version next month

    stock cpu speeds.
    ...no messing around with gpu drivers either, like disabling tesselation etc etc.
     
  13. Aikimox

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    totally agree.
     
  14. mharidas

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    I would include Witcher 2 to that list.
     
  15. Xeneize

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    Here you go.... 2920 not OC at all totally sucks.... lol

    Looks like these new drivers are starting to make some justice, good to see a with a lesser CPU.


    That said, Crysis 1 Benchmarks are 35 FPS lol 20 less than you.. Not sure what's wrong, maybe Crysis 1 sucks with the 580M....
     

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    I would include much more, a benchmark is a benchmark, you can't just bench whatever runs faster on a particular GPU... needs to be a bigger sample.
     
  17. mharidas

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    Thats true, but I got the impression that is a list only for some of the most intensive games and benchmarks out there. Then Witcher 2 is definitely amongst some of the most intensive with all the eye candy on.
     
  18. Xeneize

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    I agree on that but keep in mind that 3DMark, Metro, Crysis 1 all run best on AMD... well they did upo until last drivers.. I think Metro is a tie now, 3DMark looks like it too.
     
  19. ARGH

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    lets finish this right here right now, crysis 2. this is a manual bench test. do exactly as shown in the video. post a video link on youtube.

    begin a new game or load at this point. once loaded you will see the very first door in front of you. show your in-game settings! when you go up to this door and open it a sequence will play out. observe your fps once the door is opened. do not move your character or mouse.

    right before i opened the door i ensured that xfire was properly scaling. you might want to do the same by checking a gpu monitoring program.

    alienware m18x 6990m xfire crysis 2 proper gpu bench method - YouTube

    2720qm stock
    6990m xfire overclocked to 825 core 1000 mem.
    11.8 drivers with CAP3
    edit; this is very simple. i believe this is the very first save / checkpoint allowed in the game.
     
  20. Xeneize

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    I'll do that :D This game should run better on the 580M by a good margin from what I been hearing, I guess we'll see. My runs are going to be stock, so we'll take it from there.
     
  21. ARGH

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    yes it should run better from what i read. even at stock clocks your fps should be at least as good i assume. make sure you have latest drivers.
     
  22. Xeneize

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    yup just did, downloading the vid to post it, it actually runs as good 43-45 fps on the same spot you're getting 43 but with stock clocks on everything. I'll post the video in a few.
     
  23. Xeneize

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    Yes. Almost exactly...
     
  26. ARGH

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    awsome! finally we are getting closer to a conclusion :D

    i wonder if your cpu adds 1 or 2 fps. i would say that at stock clocks the 580m is definately powerfull in crysis 2 as it requires my xfire a 15% overclock to match yours.

    now if you can try it with a stable overclock. i will flash back to stock gpu clocks and try it again :)
     
  27. Xeneize

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    What's your CPU speed (bclk and multi)? I can probably match it.
    Also can you also do a stock run?
     
  28. ARGH

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    not identicle but very close. 6990m xfire required a 15% gpu overclock to match the stock 580m's in this test. but it is also well known that crysis 2 performs better on nvidia cards currently and has been this way since the game came out.

    i think the point is that these two offerings will trade jabs between games.
     
  29. Xeneize

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    Exactly... this was an Nvidia game, I think Metro 2033 is an ATI game... we should do a video there... perhaps the first 2-3 mins of the game.
     
  30. Xeneize

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    Also I would love to understand how CAP and Nvidia Profiles work.... keep in mind that I almost never use profiles for games.... I just loaded the Crysis 2 profile for this particular test... I'll have to give them a try, I wonder how much better performance I can get by leveraging profiles.
     
  31. vzachari

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    For the sake of having complete results I run the Crysis 2 Benchmark you guys run (I don't have a camera :()

    This is what I get (if you believe me):

    Once the door is open (checkpoint loads, run at door, press f, avg FPS for the next few seconds, stop after the helicopter passes), I get 40 fps with stock clocks, 11.8, cap 4, (in FRAPS) and 44 fps constant with 800/1000 clocks oc.

    So:

    Stock 580m SLI gets about 44-45 fps at the game position mentioned above Vs 40 fps stock 6990m xfire
     
  32. ARGH

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    yes that is about right. it is about 10%-12% better fps with the nvidia cards stock vs stock from what i am seeing. thanks for trying it, especially since you have the extreme cpu like he has. i think that cpu adds about 1 or 2 fps.
     
  33. ARGH

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    cap profiles are only for amd cards. nvidia has them built into the drivers so nothing for you to worry about.
     
  34. Xeneize

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    Yeah but I loaded them as they weren't in my 3D Managed Apps... not sure of that makes a difference or not.
     
  35. ARGH

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    not sure what you loaded. you cannot even instal CAP profiles as they require amd drivers.

    i have another test for you guys that i will kick off. this time it is with BFC2. same concept, stand still and observe the fps. i will kick it off in a few minutes with youtube upload.
     
  36. Xeneize

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    Forget CAP, it was an example... I loaded the Crysis2.exe and it brought up the up the options.
     
  37. ARGH

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    here it is;

    load up bfbc2 and simply load the very first checkpoint from the first map AFTER the begining WW2 scenario has been passed. the map is called cold war. simple oberve the fps readings. make sure all settings are maxed outout vsync, as shown in my video.

    alienware m18x 6990m xfire BFBC2 proper bench method - YouTube
     
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    next benchmark will be metro...comming up in a few mins.

    edit; actually nvm about metro i forgot that has a built in benchmark.
     
  39. Xeneize

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    Can I load that level? I'm almost at the end I don't want to overwrite my game, perhaps if I can load it I would backup my save files.
     
  40. ARGH

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    Go to your campain and you should be able to
     
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    just copy the saved game file folder to another folder
     
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    updated the benches in my SIG ) still experience throttling during the last benchmark scene in 3dmark Vantage even stock, damn...
     
  43. ARGH

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    you should be able to load any previous level you completed in the campain menu.

    now on to metro 2033 same settings maxxed out with advanced physx disabled.

    your run with 750 core overclock (20%) produced avg fps of 30.96. you posted this in the other benchmark thread but i dont know how to link the pic so if you can do it for us :)



    my run with 825 core (15%)

    [​IMG]


    even with your 5% higher overclock on the gpu the 6990m still pulls away by 8-9%. so on crysis nvidia card jabs the amd card but in metro amd comes out on top.
     
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  44. Xeneize

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    wow really? I never experience throttling untill I hit 724/1650 even then it's every other run or so not every single one.

    What are your temps just so we know? My temps are around 66/67 at that level of OC.

    Is there a way you can move your M18x to a cooler place? (perhaps lowering the anb. temp. by 20-30 degrees) and test it then?
     
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    during metro2033 OC run i got 73/72C for GPU's, during stock 3dmark Vantage it climbs to around 71/69 on a CM U3 laptop stand. so it receives enough airflow :)
     
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    eagerly awaiting the bfbc2 bench :D
     
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    yeah, clearly this title prefers AMD-m cards over Nvidia-m! there's no doubt in that. what're the temps during your metro OC run?
     
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    metro really taxes the cards. gpu 1 will hit high 70's while gpu 2 will touch 80c. this is with the gpu overclocks.

    edit; forgot to note that i have repasted the gpu's with arctic silver. it was good for about a 3-5c lower temp than stock paste.
     
  49. Xeneize

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    My temps in Metro 2033 were 72/72 stock and 74's OC.

    I'll work on the video tonight for BF2 and Metro 2033.
     
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    That's crazy... There's no consistency.. I never get throttle before 724mhz and your temperatures are low too.
     
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