Advice on hyperX 2133 RAM

LOL. I fixed my typo. It should have read "marked" (not market).

I can see it now. That is really strange.

 

Yeah, bummer because I use integrated when on battery. So I need integrated to work as well. Also sucks that the hyper X one I ordered has higher latency . But if it's the only one that is stock 2133 and runs well I guess I'm stuck. I have 2 packs for 2133 hyper X coming in tomorrow. I'll report if it works Ok with both igpu and gpus

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I think we all owe dandan a big thank-you for being a massive guinea pig.. Who on earth could've thought of all these weird problems had they not tried it themselves?

 

yeah i know... i thought i was good to go when it ran fine with my sli 680ms. When I switched to to integrated so I can unplug and use it at school, all hell broke loose.. Sucks

 

The HyperX should would fine at 2133. It does fine for me on IGFX or discrete GPUs. It may have been the 1.35V was not playing nice with IGFX. Or, it could be a Corsair memory issue. It would not be the first time we have seen issues with Corsair Vengeance memory.

I agree... thanks dandan. :thumbsup:

 

An alternative to the HyperX are these. Easily run at 2133mhz(I have the 8G sticks)

Newegg.ca - Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Laptop Memory Model BLS2K4G3N18AES4

 

Those are 1.35 as well... might be an issu3

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Oh no! I got my hyper X 2133 stock rsm in today and it is doing the same thing on integrated! now I'm getting frustrated !!!

I'm beginning to think there is some sort of compatability issue here with stock 2133 ram and integrated. Maybe you can only run 1866 in this computer and then over clock it to 2133.. can anyone confirm a stock 2133 ram setup running integrated with no crazy visual bugs like I'm getting ?

Any ideas here? Thanks

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That is unfortunate.. Just when 2133MHz RAM starts to mushroom in the market we run into problems like this

I've a feeling that tweaking the SPD settings might help but not sure what one can do about the voltage in SPD..

I'll still try the Vengeance 2133 when my machine arrives. Even if integrated is glitched I can live with that.

 

I wonder if the igpu isn't compatible with 2133.... I'm going to try to figure out if I can down clock the ram to 1600 or 1866 in bios and see if it goes away, if it does.. we all know now that the igpu just doesn't work with 2133

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Ok so my girl didn't send out the corsair yet, thankfully. So since both hyperx and corsair didn't work well with igpu, I'm going to try to get the corsair to work by playing with the clocks. It is faster ram then the hyperx due to timings. At least now we know it isn't due to the corsair or the voltage as originally thought to be. I can set the clocks from 2133 to like 1866 or 1600 in the bios right? I think if I can, I'll try that with the corsair and try different combinations of voltages. Maybe 2133 is just too much for the igpu.

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Can you see under the heat spreader to check what kind of chips Corsair is using? Is it Hynix, Micron, Samsung, Elpida, or some other chips?

 

I'll check if I'm keeping them . If I can't get them to work and return them I don't want issued with a refund with the sticker

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Well I've used RAM overclocked to 2133 in the R2 and that didn't cause a problem with iGPU. But then it was the regular 1.5V HyperX 1866.

Running the RAM at a lower frequency is easy (on the good ol' R2 at least). Just go into BIOS, Advanced, Performance, BIOS Frequency and choose 1866 or 1600.

 

Maybe something is goofed up with your CPU settings on IGFX. I have the BIOS settings for IGFX set to defaults... no IGFX overclocking or anything like that and it works fine at 2133. Look at these screen shots.

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Strange. I confirmed just now that the igpu runs perfectly fine with 1867 set in the bios. No problems. Problems come when set to 2133. Maybe my chip is sensitive.

So question, is there a way I can adjust memory frequency in xtu? Like...Set up profiles for 2133 on sli and 1867 on integrated? That way I don't have to go into the bios every time I want to unplug and run on integrated. On the 680ms it runs flawless.

I'd rather figure a way to run igpu at 2133 but I have no I idea what I can try.

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Yes, you can do it with XTU, but it still requires a reboot for the new settings to take effect. It might take two reboots to set the memory to lower speed, then switch to IGFX. Might be easier to just change it in the BIOS. If you have an unlocked BIOS you can change the memory speed and switch from PEG to IGFX at the same time, so that might actually end up being more convenient.

 

Hmm, which setting exactly in xtu messes with the freqency, the multiplier?

Too bad my igpu doesn't alike 2133, do you think I just have a sensitive chip and there's nothing to be done about it?

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Yes, that's right...

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Got it. I see you upped the voltage for better timings. So ill run 2133 with my discrete and 1867 with igpu. Sucks I have to do that but I guess there isn't anything I can do. Do you think over time running 2133 will damage my cpu even though I'm on discrete since it doesn't seem to like it when it's solely running ? I hope not

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I cannot image that would hurt anything. I suppose anything is possible, but not likely. But, you know that bump from 1867 to 2133 is so minor you might just even decide to leave it there. I suggest doing some benching and gaming with the memory settings both ways to see if it really matters. I would be shocked if you find a major difference in the gaming experience between those two bus clock settings. I can use CAS11 timings at 2133 but it's really a waste of time for the most part. Your bigger benefit should be coming capacity and not not maxing in BF4 out on the 8GB your system had to begin with.

I was running more than 1.5V even on stock DDR3-1600 Dell RAM. I don't know why, but the system seems to be more stable that way when the CPU has been heavily overclocked.

 

yeah, ill do some testing. I want to see if I can get the corsair to run well next. Then I may return the hyper x because the corsair is better. Damn fox! i must be unlucky as heck to have a processor that doesn't like 2133. I guess I cant complain though as that IGPU is only rated for 1600 mhz ram, right?


Edit; Confirmed the corsair 1.35v ram works fine for my igpu at 1867. And perfect at 2133 for my discrete. So I guess I'll keep then as they are faster.

 

Question, I wonder if my hd 4000 driver has anything to so with the issues at running at 2133. What driver are you running the hd 4000 at 2133?

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I don't know, but it certainly would not hurt to consider every possibility. I am using 9.18.10.3257 under Windows 7. I don't remember if I even installed the Intel HD Graphics driver under Windows 8 because I rarely use Windows 8 or the IGFX.

 

Even when traveling with her you use discrete ?


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Yes, unless I get stuck in an airport longer than I want to without access to an electrical outlet. Other than when I absolutely have to for the sake of longer battery life I never use IGFX for anything.

 

Any time I use mine unplugged I use mine. Horrible bat life otherwise

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I get almost 5 hours on battery using IGFX with all the lights turned off and the CPU clocked down to 3.1GHz. When I need/want to do that it is an awesome feature to have.

I get about between 1:00 to 1:15 running with my system fully lit up on 780M SLI and running 4.3GHz. And, that's enough for most circumstances. I very seldom use it disconnected from AC power. I rarely ever have a need to.

 

i get 6 or so with my cpu downclocked to 1.2 . good enough speed for office work! So fox, do you think my igpu is defective? or is it that because its only rated for 1600mhz on intel's site, anything more is luck working as far as ram is concerned, similar to video cards and over clocks?

 

I honestly don't know what's up with that not working for you, Brother Dan. Why it is different on your machine is a mystery. I have the 3920XM CPU, but I kind of doubt this has anything to do with it.

Johnksss has 3940XM and as far as I know his system works fine with IGFX with memory at 2133. I believe he uses IGFX all the time for work like you do. Maybe send him a PM and ask if he has to change his memory bus speed.

Have you tried clearing your CMOS and resetting everything to BIOS defaults? Maybe I have my IGFX running at a different clock speed. If not, I recommend that you try that to see what happens.

I am running A10 unlocked. Let me switch to IGFX and go into my BIOS. I will take a couple of snapshots of my settings to post here for you to compare with.

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Edit: Here are my BIOS settings that relate to the Intel HD Graphics for you to compare with. I would still recommend trying to clear the CMOS and resetting BIOS defaults.
Notice that "GT OverClock Support" and "Non-Turbo Flex Support" are disabled in the first screen.

 

I'll look into this fox, thanks. I was also looking into XTU and i see there are settings for the intel graphics.. ratio limit/ curret limit ect. I wonder if I tinker with it , it will make a difference... hmmm

 

Anandtech have done some reviews on the integrated scaling with frequency and memory speeds.

 

I ended up picking up and installing corsair 2x8 CAS 10 1866mhz ram. It would have annoying me to no end to switch it back and forth from 2133 to 1866 everything i went integrated, and running the 2133 at 1866 would have been at cas 11 instead of 10. So in the end i think I'll be happy with these sticks. they are LoVo as well and work fine both integrated and sli. Amazon.com: Corsair Vengeance Performance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866MHz Laptop Memory (CMSX16GX3M2B1866C10): Computers & Accessories


I am really mad that I couldnt get the 2133 4x4 to work with IGPU though. I wish i could figure out what the deal was

 

Running the IGP and the mem at 2133mhz seems to load the IMC that bit extra, combine that with having two banks per channel and without IMC voltage control you can't bump it to compensate like in a desktop.

 

I know this might be the wrong thread but I trying to find out what is the highest speed memory for my alianware m18 x r3 ...

 

They are all rated for a max of 1600 according to intel. That's why alienware doesn't have faster memory configurations that they would definitely want to people . Anything faster may or may not work or have issues

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I think Mr Fox has some 2133 or 1866 in his R3?

 

Nope, just stock 1600

 

:O oh well that wasn't expected. I expected it to be tricked out beyond belief!

Also your on holiday!!!!!!!!!! I hope you have a great time

 

I'm enjoying quad channel 2133mhz CL10 But the R3 should have no issues with dual stick 2133mhz.

 

What sticks do you have meaker?

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hello, a question the original ram 4x4gb 1600MHz original which cl have they ? and you can take it at 1866 mhz?

 

Samsung 30nm modules that are not really avilable anymore.

Timings and speeds will depend on what each stick is capable of if you overclock them.

 

Yeah and not all of those Samsung 30nm are as good as meaker's. I bought a pair where one could still get them but they were hardly stable even at 1866.. Not worth it in my opinion.

 

I'd just go with 2133mhz stock 1.35v ram

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G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 2133 Laptop Memory Model F3-2133C11D-8GRSL - $94.99 | Newegg.com

 

So I picked a couple of these and they absolutely refuse to run at 1866 on my R1. Using the A05 unlocked BIOS. Going to be sending them back pronto tomorrow. They just wont run past 1600. Any ideas are welcome, but I knew I was taking a chance with two separate 2x4 kits.

Amazon.com: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1866MHz (PC3 15000 ) Laptop Memory (CMSX8GX3M2B1866C10): Electronics

 

Does one kit at a time work?

 

I ended up keeping my 2133 corsair lovo ram at 4x4. Runs perfect at stock speeds on sli. When I want to unplug and run integrated I need to set 1866 in the bios to prevent graphic glitch party. Other then that works perfect.

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It depends on which chips it has, was it exactly the YK-0 chips on the low profile PCB?