Just got my 880M twins!

Just tell me how to validate the damn thing and I'll do it just to prove that I am not lying. BTW I would post that much now given that all of you think I am either lying or just don't know what to do which is a shame? I am new to this stuff and no one wants to help. I have a couple of questions for you Ethrem, what program should I use to overclock my 880ms( tried both EVGA and MSI) and a quick start guide on how to actually overclock them. A response other than I am a lying stupid noob would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

You're not going to be able to overclock them without flashing a custom vbios that has power targets unlocked. The reason so many of us hate the 880M is because nVidia, in all their wisdom, released the 880M with a power target that was too low for it to sustain its boost clocks and sometimes even its stock clocks due to power draw. The modded vbios allows you to raise the power limit which enables you to have boost clocks 24/7 (the mod disables the boost table entirely and forces the cards to 993MHz) and also allows for overclocking. Since the stock card has such a low power limit, if you overclock it you actually hit the power limit faster which results in earlier throttling, especially if you adjust the voltage.

When it comes to overclocking those particular cards, you need to monitor temps closely. Just flashing the mod will probably cause a 4-5C increase in peak temperature as the cards start drawing the power they actually need to work properly.

 

Okay I understand, in this respect, the 880ms are just downright bad. Fortunately, it is amazing in games but I would sort of liked for it to be good in both. Do you which VBIOS I should flash. Someone who is trustworthy. I'll then run the benchmark. I have heaps of headroom to flash a new one as my temps at full load rarely go above 79degrees which is really cold

 

You can get the vbios from http://forum.techinferno.com/genera...-editions-modified-clocks-voltage-tweaks.html after making 5 quality posts on the forum. Make sure you backup that vbios of yours before you flash the mod. I am curious if nVidia actually implemented some sort of a hardware fix for the temps and throttle or if it's a software fix through the vbios. If your temps soar with the mod flash (90s are pretty common unless you're using liquid ultra thermal interface material) then nVidia managed to do a software fix.

 

Here you have guides for posting your bench scores. Perhaps others are a little better than me to explain this as I'm not good in English. Read and learn. No more post stacking. Por favor .
http://www.futuremark.com/support/online-services
http://s3.amazonaws.com/download-aws.futuremark.com/3DMark_Technical_Guide.pdf

 

Thanks Ethrem and Papusan do you think it's safe for me to flash a new VBIOS if the stock one is fine. Also how long does it take to do that. I will make sure to verify my results Papusan

 

Test first 3Dmark11 and 3DMark Fire Strike with stock vbios both overclocked and with stock clock speeds. We are waiting... Test as well likewise with single graphics card. Congratulations use of multi-quote

 

The results I posted above are from stock clock speed as I can't properly overclock due to the VBIOS messing things up. Refer to Ethrem posts. I may have to change the VBIOS and post the overclocking results. The 880ms are hated for the screwed up VBIOS after all so I may as well get rid of this "disease" that is plaguing my system and unleash the beast. Wish me good luck cause I am gonna flash a new VBIOS and I don't have a single idea on what I'll be doing I may try to read on it first but I am too scared of bricking my cards. I will surely upload a single card test run once I finish flashing the new VBIOS

 

No need to wait. You brag that you have no problems with these crippled gtx880m constantly in this thread. We will see how your graphics card works with stock vbios. Run a 3Dmark11 test with stock bios and compare with my single gtx780m that works as intended. If you can't put together a benchmark comparison in 3Dmark.com, then post your verification link in the thread so I can do it for you... We sit still and wait for a verified scores from you. Stop all this nonsense now and fix this... My score from singel graphics you can compare with http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9856809

 

Can't you make do with the results I posted, it was with clock speeds. There you have your answer your 780m score is from a hefty overclock, how do you want me to get a higher scores if I can't even ****ing overclock thee damn thing. Just wait till I get this sorted out so we can correctly compare the GPUs with the same overclock. Okay. I feel victimised for doing nothing wrong. GOD DAMN.

 

Hey @Ethrem, can you tell me if it is safe for me to flash a new VBIOS if everything is working correctly. What are the issues that could arise if I do something wrong? Also can you tell me where to find a detailed walk through of how to actually flash a VBIOS on an SLI machine. Thanks a lot

 

We're losing track here. The whole purpose of the discussions with PC Gamer & GodlikeRU was that they supposedly have a vBIOS that fixes the 880M. Now we're all talking about flashing modified vBIOS. What happened to trying to get proof that the stock vBIOS is now fixed?? @PC GAMER and @GodlikeRU just run 3DMark11 and Firestrike at stock clocks and report a link to your scores (not just a screenshot). D2 Ultima can then compare your stock results to his card at the same frequencies (he could set his cards to 993Mhz, which is max boost for an 880M at stock). Do we agree that then if the graphics scores were the same, then the latest 880M vBIOS really has been fixed? (That's probably more of a question to you @Ethrem because I don't have 880M's - I'm guessing your cards even throttled at stock during 3DMark runs.)

 

Make account on 3Dmark website
Download 3DMark 11 free edition from their website.
Be connected to the internet.
Run "default" settings.
Allow entire test to finish.
Test will automatically open browser window with link to your score, and if it is valid or not. If it is valid, it will say "valid result" at the top right in a green-outline box with a green exclamation point next to it.
Give us link to score.

3DMark 11 does NOT need to be paid for to give a validation link. 3DMark Firestrike should not require being paid for either, however I am not 100% certain. As far as I know, "paying" only unlocks custom settings for each test and higher tests (like 3DMark Firestrike's 4K test) etc.

When you do that, we will accept your benchmark links. A simple screenshot means nothing, as anybody could edit it in photoshop or any other method.

Also, it is a trend on these forums that every single person that comes on this forum claiming to have perfect/working/amazing/<insert-praiseworthy-adjective-here> 880M cards OR vBIOSes for 880M cards, ESPECIALLY when they're in SLI, has been completely unable to provide a small set of free benchmark results with validation links. There's even been people who refused to run benchmarks and uploaded bad vBIOSes which even caused @Ethrem to brick both his cards, having to un-brick them by using his old Alienware machine which had that capability.

So yes, we are skeptical. The coincidence that every user who shows up on these forums claiming to have great 880M cards in SLI is so technically inept that they cannot follow simple instructions to run 3-5 different * FREE* benchmarks of our choosing and post valid links/scores is almost impossible. You are somewhere around the 6th person to do this, and whether or not you're legit, we're tired of spending 5-6 pages giving instructions so detailed a 5 year old turning on his PC for the first time can do what we require, but people with so-called working 880Ms cannot. So that'd explain any snark our posts may or may not be tinged with.

 

Why don't you just i gnore OC (You can actually OC the card from Stock vBIOS but as ethrem stated due to powerlimit you might throttle like hell, so better off with this) and run a full stock 3DMark with factory shipped vBIOS (better for you since you are new to this stuff...) for the benchmark sake that everyone was waiting for since a week.

Or else refer to godlikeru's vBIOS - the Nvidia's version, not a custom vBIOS (No need for custom vBIOS you are fine with gaming as per your experience)

Or the vBIOS (Svl7/Johnksss) from Techinferno (If you want to see a comparision with same clocks for 780M SLI vs 880M SLI). This requires vBIOS flashing from DOS bootable USB stick with NVFlash, a fairly simple process If you are truly into computers below is all the stuff u need.

Spoiler: Links

vBIOS Mods Kepler (Techinferno) & NVFlash for DOS
GodlikeRu's post for vBIOS
NVFlash Guide (Techinferno, You need to go through full commands for backup, flashing as you have an SLI setup)
Nvidia Inspector (Only for OCing)

Spoiler: Commands for SLI flashing- NVFLash

 

Thanks @Ashtrix, I will try and have a read through it. As for @D2 Ultima @Robbo99999. I said that I was able to get the results I showed earlier while using the stock VBIOS which is great. The trick I used to do it is just before running the benchmark, uninstall and reinstall the latest drivers. This method made me get the 12500 points I got. Now I am just floating between 11900 to 12000:. I am pretty sure if I go ahead with a new VBIOS, I'll be able to get a much higher score. Don't get me wrong, I think you both are right, the 880ms VBIOS is the faulty one here. It's really screwed up, I can't even adjust the power limit. But for the meantime, I think I'll stick with it.

 

*facepalm*

It's 3AM here, I can't deal with any of this right now, I'll be on tomorrow...

 

Ironic that this was replied to still without a valid score link.

 

@PC GAMER runs several benchmark tests but can't post a simple valid score link

 

Let's just forget it, no point in pursuing this anymore. He either posts a valid link or doesn't, it's been explained to him a million times. I think I'm outta this discussion until he starts posting posts that make sense + simple links of proof.

 

Im in the hospital so you will have to wait for your 880m scores in 3dmark

 

Thanks a lot. At least one supports me

 

Nobody minds waiting. Please, take your time.

Waiting for someone and having someone claim to be trying with impossibilities hindering them are two very very different things.

 

@PCGamer
I'm glad that you are happy but I wasn't tracking earlier discussion and don't know you. Do you also have that newest stock vbios ?

 

Hehehehe All good. Yeah, I have the AW18 with the 880ms SLi running the latest VBIOS (I guess I don't know how to check ) I posted 1 3dmark result i got a while back which states that i got 12500 points in firestrike graphics score and everybody just started questioning saying it's impossible, provide a verification link (eventhough I did not buy it). I guess they just don't want to know that I can swap my 880ms to a 980m right now if i wish to but I don't justify wasting 1000 USD for the 980ms if my 880ms are acing every single demanding game i threw at them. I think the 880ms will be capable of running any games at ultra for 1.5 to 2 years. After that, I'll probably swap the 880ms for the 1000 series.

 

I can't make this more clear. Stop whining about not knowing what to do, or I will flat out report you for spam from here on out.

 

Is this at high or ultra settings? I have not tested witcher 3 with my 880m ski and 4710mq yet

 

Let's see if we can get this thread renamed to "Brainfart".

 

On ultra settings mate with hairworks off, i get on average 40-45fps. Wait for nVidia to release their new driver which should address the kepler optimization for the witcher 3. With the aforementioned driver, a 15fps increase is expected to be seen which will make it run at around 60fps with everything on including Hairworks. The witcher 3 is gorgeous though, well worth the price

 

nice bro, I will have to give it a go, the 18 has not been getting nearly enough usage lately

 

Nice confidence builder, eh? That's nice, anyways thanks a lot person whom i never met and probably never will for complimenting me. I am truly touched

 

Ohhhh you definitely should plus with the driver nVidia is releasing. Why is that so?

 

Not gonna lie, have been using my 17r2 with the titan x through the graphics amplifier. It's pretty much beastmode in anything I throw at it, frickin love that thing.

 

Ohhhhhh so you have the new AW17. It should be with a titan x. The 880ms are not far from what a titan x gets from a game point of view. I get on average 60-65fps on Far cry 4 while the titan x gets 75-80fps with every the same settings. The AW18 is still the king (compared to the new lineup) according to me especially if you swap the 880ms to the 980ms(if you want to chase numbers). I am currently using the stock VBIOS which is not enough when it comes to benchmarking but does get the job done in actual games. When the 880ms will start to slow down, i'll maybe flash a new VBIOS to unlock their full potential thereby boosting their performance. For the time being, I am just too scared to do it in case I brick the cards. I am still a noob

 

They are quite far, especially considering SLI is not a guaranteed thing.

 

It wasn't aimed at you. Just the thread in general.

 

Yea don't mess around with the vbios if you don't need to. I made the mistake of flashing Johnksss bios on the 880m's. It did keep them at their max clocks all the time as advertised but at the same time caused abnormalities with the lighting system?? on the 18, sometimes the lights on the front of the machine would quickly flash purple. I was like well that's enough of that and flashed it back like a day later.

 

Quit lying. Seriously, knock it off. Your Kepler cards are not capable of that with stock clocks.

You're saying that you get near perfect scaling in SLI?

http://www.notebookcheck.com/The-Witcher-3-Notebook-Benchmarks.142824.0.html



The gold color? That's HIGH with no Hairworks. Stop trolling!

Also... Your assertion that Maxwell isn't much faster than Kepler in games is totally off base as well.



That's the Witcher 3... 980M almost doubles performance over the 880M and that's just one game.

Feel free to take a look at the master list and see just how much your cards get stomped

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.13849.0.html

 

880m sli is around titan (non x) levels. You need 980m sli to be at titan-x levels. I've owned all of them

 

Just got the ROG Swift

 

Yes a very nice display when you have a lot of horsepower to use it's what I use at the moment.

 

titan x number 2 will be going in the desktop rig once it's been acquired, will have to get by with my sli 780ti's for the time being

 

Oh poor you

 

My 880M SLI when not throttling was faster than my 780 Ti superclocked edition but the 980M SLI... Man my 700 dollar 780 Ti is worthless in comparison.

I just get sick of people with 880s claiming that they are more powerful than they are. Its extremely misleading and could push someone into buying an 880M system on the cheap thinking they were getting a steal rather than a big heaping pile of mess.

 

Stock 780M SLI going by pure numbercrunching is slightly faster than a stock 780Ti assuming perfect scaling, and with 880M's clocks it'd be a decent bit better. Too bad the 880M can't really hold those...

And yes, this bothers me too. I have to fight down people who are so quick to jump on some 4GB 880M ASUS notebook benchmark and go "LOOK IT WORKS HERE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT" and I'm like "listen noob, I've been researching these things and trying to help fix their issues in machines that put that silly ASUS to shame for months and all you did was spend 5 minutes on google. Please go actually do some research please and thanks."

 

Okay Thanks Keep me updated on how the Witcher 3 performs on the 18.

 

That's because the Kepler cards have a bug in them which limits the fps we get on The witcher 3. Nvidia is releasing a driver that should address this issue so. And i get 40-45fps on average with the Witcher 3 excluding Hairworks(tested it with fraps )

 

If you really think you're going to get 15 FPS more you're just kidding yourself.

Look at the rest of the graphs... Or did nVidia mess up Kepler in those too? The 880M is so outclassed by a stock 980M that in some cases the 980M is twice as fast. Add in the fact that that 980M can be brought from 1126MHz to 1300MHz with relative ease (with some cards going closer to 1500MHz)... Its curtains for Kepler. Just face the facts man, everyone else has.

 

That is because nVidia messed the game for the witcher 3 for the kepler cards and admitted it themselves. A fix is on the way.With this new driver, it should add more than 15fps to the games making it run at around 60fps.

 

@D2 Ultima @Ethrem @Papusan @Robbo99999 . Am deeply sorry if i offended any of you here with my noobiness but I thought it would be cool to create an account on this forum to say that the 880ms have been sort of fixed. It's not like what it was when it first launched. The VBIOS and drivers from nVidia cured it in someway. It does run at 993MHz in games. The performance of the 880ms are more than enough to play the latest games and it will be so for more than 1.5years. It's true that for you guys, the 880ms are not fixed to a certain point that you can use it to crunch numbers or pursue higher numbers in benchmarks, the 980ms suit you better When I created this account, which was a couple of weeks ago, I did not think that I would be persecuted like this eventhough it's my fault for just being a noob. But I just want to let you know that the 880ms have been sort of fixed. I am glad of the performance boost it gave the 880ms and thought that you would too I can swap my 880ms for the 980ms right now by ordering a pair on ebay and voila. But I can't justify wasting 1000USD as of yet. I hope you understand and forgive me for my stubbornness. I will probably delete my account after I read your replies cause I won't be of great use here. Thank you guys and again forgive me please

 

We don't care. Without you following simple instructions, nothing you say means anything.