M18x and Crysis 3 Performance Thread

I cant tell you how I feel about downloading third party tweak took just to be able to run a well-known game as crysis. Its b*******

Anyway, this mean that its possible to get good FPS (for me everything over 20 avarage FPS is a upgrade) but also shows that they (nVidia/CryTech) DID not do their job correctly. I'm also sad because the next Sniper Elite game also uses CryEngine 3.....so guess Im gonna have the same b******* with that game also

 

I've been using the utility for a couple days now, it's got some nice features. My only issue is that the highest setting doesn't come close to maxing out the settings. I have to go into the options and turn up anisotropic filtering from 4x to 16x, as well as game effects to very high. I was wondering why my framerates were so high when using it lol.

 

So, if I use the MaLDo utility and nothing else (I tried various settings and options) I still come back to having a choppy experience. For my config, the game runs better if I use GeForce Experience and load optimal settings.

 

While using the utility I did notice that GPU utilization increased a bit (saw it around 70-ish %), but didn't fix me the rope fps drops. I loaded the utility, set it to recommended config and played with rope a bit: still the same to me. Still rope = 50/60 fps. Moving rope = 20/30. This doesn't happen if I use GeForce experience and load the optimal settings.

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Oops, sorry about the double post.

 

If that's the way you feel, then you probably do not want to use MSI Afterburner, ThrottleStop, HWiNFO64, modded drivers or modded vBIOS, unlocked system BIOS or anything else that does not come as standard issue. Third party tweak utilities are extremely valuable to me. I'm glad we have them. This just improves performance and adds extra features that I like having. Once drivers catch up with the new release, this tweak utility will still be in my bag of tricks because better has no boundaries. There is always room for improvement.

Just because Crysis 3 uses CryEngine 3 and still needs some optimization does not mean every game title using the same engine will perform exactly the same way.

"Before" was already great... "After" is even greater. Where do you see an issue with the result?

Have you tried the weapon FOV tweak yet?

I have my in-game settings on very high, with some things turned off that I don't like (v-sync, motion blur, lens flares). I turn those off with all games because they make the game look worse to me, instead of better. The exception is v-sync only on titles that are broken without it enabled (i.e. Skyrim). I don't know if the "recommended" setting is overriding some of my settings or not. If it is, then it doesn't really matter to me. I was already very happy with the game and how my M18x performs with it before vulcan78 turned us onto the MaLDo OnTheFly config utility. All I really know and care about is the game is a blast to play, it look absolutely incredible, and I am getting frame rates that are so high that they are well beyond the ability of my eyes and brain to process.

It plays very smoothly for me, without any choppy behavior to speak of. I have seen a few very minor hiccups in a couple of cut scene videos, but they are rare and I really don't care because it does not have a major impact on anything. I watch cut scenes once, then skip them from that point forward.

 

Not saying the third party program is bad, it was a critic against CryTech/nVidia

 

Have you tried this tweak?



I did but I didn't feel any gains on my FPS. Any of the case we should try in order to clarify if this tweak works or not. My CPU usage never gets over 35%.

I'm waiting for new patchs & drivers...

I've playing with the OC of my gpu's to check if there's a power drain or whatever. I have seen that if I push my oc to something like 180/300 I can achieve almost the time an usage of 80-90% but if I go beyond I don't get more than a 76% or less.
I think something wrong here with our gpus, maybe it's true that it overcomes the 100W barrier.

I'm using 1.05V mod vbios and i7 3920 @ 4,25Ghz 0 flex 0 priplane. 314.07 whlq.

 

That did the trick for me. I'm sorry it didn't it to you. After I reduced to maximum the milliseconds value I gained more fps and GPUs are more utilized 60/70%. Without using the other tricks I usually do I can play all maxed out 55/60 now. +rep for sharing, Failwheeldrive

 

That guys has 3 680 cards but no SSD? That's actually quite amusing.

 

Do you mean pressing 0 to activate ultra DOF? I've got that activated, but I don't notice much of a difference between ultra and regular.

I don't believe it's overriding settings if you have them set to "very high," but for me, whenever I press 8 to enable the ultra quality preset it overrides some of my graphics settings, so I have to go back in and manually set them to very high/16x. Do your settings stay maxed out when you enable the ultra preset?

Other than that, it's a great tool. I love being able to remove the HUD and activate slowmo, and modify the FOV with a press of a button

 

There is no maybe about it. This is a reality and you have hit the nail on the head. Those of us that are into heavily overclocked benching have already discovered this outside of gaming. Yes, pushing your CPU and GPUs too far definitely exceeds the capacity of the 330W AC adapter. When power starvation begins to occur, performance decreases. Did you notice my low (200/300) overclock on CPU and GPU? That's why. Have you tripped the internal circuit breaker on your AC adapter yet? +1 Rep Nikos.

 

Dumb question, but how do you know when you trip the circuit breaker in the psu?

 

When it trips you have to unplug the AC adapter from the wall outlet, wait a few seconds and plug it back in. You will know it right away because the laptop will either abruptly shut down or your performance will slow to a crawl if it runs off of the battery. If you don't trip the circuit breaker, the AC adapter will get so hot that it is scary... almost to hot to handle comfortably. If you keep the AC adapter cool, it helps to maintain steady performance. If the laptop shuts down you will have to remove the battery (big system battery, not CMOS) and boot from AC power and snap the battery back in after POST completes. Otherwise, you will see an error that the battery cannot be charged during POST.

Even if you do not pull enough power to trip it, you can still see noticeable performance drops, fluctuating FPS and unexplained changes in display brightness (alternating dimming and brightening) if you are hitting on threshold of the output capacity. If you ever see that, back off of your overclock (multiplier) settings on the CPU. It's possible, but not as likely, that you will encounter this except with a 3920/3940XM CPU. The QM CPUs generally do not pull enough power to cause the erratic behavior, but they can pull enough power to see the performance fluctuations if you are pushing the GPU super hard. An over-volted and heavily overclocked 7970M or 680M will draw more than 100W each.

No, sorry for the confusion. I had a typo in my question. What I meant to ask was have you tried I -> Modify weapon FOV.

 

Set it to 0.500 milliseconds (maximum), don't close it (free version).

Download TimerResolution_2.exe here http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/710325-crysis-3-performance-r3-2.html#post9107772

 

Maybe we could make something like this:
Alienware M17x R2 - Dual PSU [2 x 240W] for AMD 7970M CFX - Tech|Inferno

 

I have actually considered doing something like that for benching. It's not a portable setup, but it would not need to be if used for nothing except for chasing benchmark numbers. However, I am somewhat hesitant about pushing my system beyond its current electrical limitations by circumventing them in that manner. I'm not sure what, if any, adverse effect it might have on the lifespan and reliability of my system over time. The power shutdown is not really that big a deal as I see it, other than the possibility of drive data corruption, as the system is behaving according to design.

 

314.14 Beta's now up - release notes suggest Crysis 3 improvement for Sli. Cant test out as I don't have the game installed right now and it will take me multiple hours to re-install it. Would be good to hear feedback from those of you with faster internet than my crappy 4Mbps downsteam......

NVIDIA DRIVERS 314.14BETA

 

Just tested it out (I didn't use any OC or any tweaks, default vbios and everything else stock)
It gives me quite a boost in gameplay actually. 65% sounds like a bit much, but it is significant for me it seems.
Getting a solid 55-60 fps on several parts of the game I tested, with everything maxed out, except AA which I set on FXAA.

 

Good news!

 

Also benched with the drivers, although there wasn't much difference in performance, everything was stable. Also in about a total of 2 hours of playing Crysis 3, no issues. Not tested other games yet.

 

How's the gpu utilization working out? - rope scenario's etc.....it'll be tomorrow before I can test out....

 

Thats up to crytech?

 

Anyone having any issues with the evga precision X on screen display not coming up in this game? I would like to monitor my temps, etc.

 

Works fine for me. Posted some screen shots earlier showing it. I have had an issue with the RivaTuner OSD server randomly not working or stops working with some games and benchmarks for no explainable reason, and then it magically begins working again. I don't really understand why and I've seen it with MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision X. Sometimes uninstalling and reinstalling the utility helps, but not 100% of the time. I see this most often in Vantage. Here today, gone tomorrow, back the next day.

 

I have not problem with avga!

 

Weird..guess it's just me then

 

Have you tried assigning hotkeys? I had that problem too, but I fixed by simply setting hotkeys that will allow me to force the in-game OSD when it doesn't show up (it's bugged and sometimes it happens I noticed).

This is where you can do it.

 

Gave that a go, but still had the same issue. Though I have noticed one thing..it is only with EA Origin games only that it does not show up..all other games, whether they be from Steam, or standalone it displays it fine.

 

It works for my EA Origin games. Try uninstalling EVGA Precision X (or MSI Afterburner - both randomly have the issue) and reboot. After rebooting, reinstall Precision X (or MSI Afterburner) and see if it works.

As I mentioned, I have had this issue with Vantage off and on again, and it seems to sometimes have a mind of its own. I have seen this with Steam games as well. Sometimes reinstalling the game fixes it, too. But, if you have slow broadband, that will be a time burner. If the game has SecuROM crap, its a good idea to deauthorize it before uninstalling it so it does not count against a limit to activations. (Some games have them, and some don't. Crysis 2, Batman Arkham City are two examples of games that do. Not sure about Crysis 3, but haven't checked.)

As an FYI, any game or benchmark that runs natively as 64-bit will never work, because the OSD app only supports 32-bit.

 

Can only say that it worked for me when I had it installed and played C3. Will be installing it again soon - EVGA PrecisionX v4 and HWiNFO64.....maybe you haven't got it configured optimally as per Fox's "guide to monitoring" thread?

 

I have had the same on just a handful of occasions.
Actually never paid attention to it until I now read your story and think 'hey, that sounds familiar'.

It's like you notice it's not working, fiddle a bit, don't pay attention to it anymore, and then next time you use it it suddenly works (where you aren't paying attention to it and don't even notice it's working again).

 

I tried many uninstalls/reinstalls but still same issue..oh well. I'm going to cough this one up to I'm running games that run at a native 64-bit..so it will be a hit and miss thing as it is. Maybe with the next update to it, this problem will be resolved.

 

I've got the best results with 310.96 beta driver. I had some issue with the 314.14 beta drivers that I suffered lot of performace drops. Have you had the same issue?

 

Hey guys, something odd happened with Crysis 3 this evening. I picked up where I left off, with about 10 or 11 hours of progress, and the game froze up. I had to force shutdown. Went to launch it again and my profile was totally gone. All progress lost!

No more lockups after restarting, but that sucks. I guess something must have somehow been corrupted with the profile. I had to create a new profile and start over from scratch. Anyone else run into this yet? It has been a long time ago, but I have experienced corrupt game profiles in the past. Never one simply vanishing before. Since it is cloud storage, I suppose it is gone forever.

 

That sucks, Fox. Not experienced that one, but haven't played much of it yet. Shame there is no localized save data.......

 

Ouch! Sorry to hear that. Once it happened to me playing Crysis 2. Crashed while playing, profile corrupted, all lost. However, I was able to recover it by scanning the disk with Recover My Files and recover a profile file from the day before (the My Games/Crysis 2 dir under Documents), and copied it over the corrupted one. You could try this with any decent file recovery software.

Here's the link to my 2011 post in my crysis forum seeking help and my "fix."

http://www.mycrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17042


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As far as I can tell, there are no local saved game data folders for Crysis 3. It looks like it is all cloud-based saved game information. I have scanned my drives and don't find anything that looks like such a folder in a hidden or alternate location, and there are no Crysis 3 folders in the normal locations.

 

Oh? I installed the game from Origin but I have the dir Crysis 3 under C:\Users\myname\Saved Games. Same goes for Crysis 2. Maybe now you don't see one because the profile got corrupted and the cloud deleted it? Why don't you run the game, create a new profile with a different and recognizable name, and play the first level until it a checkpoint. Close and check if now there's that save game dir. In case there is I could help you by sending you a zip file with my saved games, since I finished the campaign once and I'm playing it again--almost at the end. Then you'd be able to choose a location/level that is close to the point before it got corrupted.

 

Same as Rafix73 here..I installed via Origin and it saves everything locally under that above directory.

 

OK, this is very strange I found that but the game does not see my previous profile for some reason. I looked there last night and did not find a Crysis 3 folder among the rest of them.

The old profile is not listed in the menu in-game. Only the new one I had to create is there in-game. When I look in the folder, my old profile folder and contents are there. I will try renaming directories or copying the files over and see if that fixes it or makes it worse. If push comes to shove, I can always deactivate it, uninstall and reinstall if messing with it makes matters worse.

 

Sounds like a good plan. In case you need it, my offer to share my saved-points is on the table. However, I have to say that as soon as I finished the campaign I started the game again at a harder level--it's a game that's so much fun to play and look at. So, even re-starting the whole thing, although a bit discouraging for losing the files, it still going to be lots of fun to play.

 

Nothing I tried worked. I had all of the files for my saved progress in the original profile folder, but none are recognized when I copy them over. Why the folder and contents are there but not recognized is a mystery. There is probably an INI or CFG file that needs to be tweaked. So, I don't even know that your offer would work... but I do appreciate it all the same.

It's not a big deal, since I love playing the game. I will just start over again. As long as it does not keep happening, I'll not worry too much about it.

 

Sorry to hear that. Maybe, in order to prevent that from happening again you could backup the content of the Save Games directory? I agree that the whole issue might come down to a single conf file that's been corrupted, but which is critical for the game. But yeah, it's so fun to play. I know I'll end up like with Crysis 2--played 4 times, 3 of them almost in a row

 

I had something similar happen to me during Mass Effect 3 where i had to ALT+F4 to close the game while a cutscene was going because i had to leave in a hurry.

That corrupted my save file and in Mass Effect 3 it is such a long game to just start from scratch i was beyond devastated. I was like 20ish hours into the game and my last alternate save was from about 3 hours into the campaign ....

Starting a game over because you want to is one thing but because you have too.... Yeah.

 

Well, I guess I am not alone, LOL. My son mentioned this is also happening to him in Crysis 2 for the past few days as well, and he keeps getting prompts about his cloud saves that don't go away. Some reports of it happening with Crysis 3 MP and XBOX 360 also. Must be some kind of random strangeness on the server end.

Played multiplayer for 5 hours, all progress lost

What's really funny is this guy is named Fox, but it is not me: Crysis 3 - Forum» LOST PROGRESS! Xbox 360

 

Guys?

Crysis 3 Patch 1.2 for multiplayer is out.

Crytek said that "Following this patch we’ll soon be releasing Data Patch C across all platforms." So, hopefully soon, we're going to see a patch that will fix the single player side as well.

Source: MyCrysis.com

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EDIT: MaLDo released an updated mode for the 1.2 patched version of the game. You'll find it here

 

For anyone wanting to max out this game on 680m SLI I recommend putting every setting to very high except shading and shadows put to low and SMAA X1. Runs perfect

 

I agree TimeLord84. It's working excellent with those settings for me, too. The quality of the graphics in Crysis 3 is amazing to me. And, I cannot really see where those settings make a meaningful difference in the quality of what I am looking at. Those setting might have more of a visual effect on graphics quality with other GPUs. I find myself wondering if NVIDIA drivers, which typically manage much of the eye candy, are clashing with in-game settings and turning these settings down or off allows NVIDIA drivers to do their job correctly without interference from the game.

 

Man, I love this game. Still getting almost 100 FPS average with previously posted settings. Gameplay is better for me with 314.07.

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Looks amazing can't wait to get started on it when "The Beast" arrives ! btw what band is that over the video ??