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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware M18x Benchmark Thread - Part 2

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by BatBoy, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. Sentinel196

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    Hmm. Best I can get is 7200 with those same GPU clocks and my 2960XM on dell overclock level 3. I also have slower RAM which might be a contributing factor.

    I'm gonna have to push the CPU harder if I'm gonna compete. lol.

    I have a 2nd replacement system on its way at the moment so once it comes I'll push the old one a bit harder and see what I can do :)
     
  2. Johnksss

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    More like this.. And if you are doing the free version, then your picture plus what is in my picture and you're good.
    And you dont have to have it running until you finish the bench. then you open these other programs for the picture. :)
    Imageshack - capture11qc.jpg


    And you might be facing temps....
     
  3. residualvoltage

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    My system is due Tuesday maybe monday if lucky... just shipped out from Depot. Nice to see some progress here! Nice runs Cygoris and Sentinel i know you can do it... keep cool like John said and use the lowest flex that keeps you stable on your runs... dell default of 25 on their level 3 overclock is outrageous for those clocks...
     
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    Well so much for that bargain 2920xm. Turns out he sent me a dual core i5 2520qm ES. Hopefully I can get a quick refund and try again. Also installed the dial pipe sink and noticed the temp for one core is about 5C lower than the rest despite repasting three times, anyone else ever see something like that?

    Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk
     
  5. Johnksss

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    They never run exactly even...
     
  6. residualvoltage

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    yep same as John said mine has seen 4-8c atleast under load difference depending on the paste job... one time i had paste job that ran cooler than Dell TIM and the dell tim ran cool itself too but another i had such varied temps even adjusting screw tension no difference.
     
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    One thing I haven't tried is adjusting the screws while the laptop is on. Will it turn on without all the other plugs in besides the kb? I haven't tested that. With the R2 I used to test the screws in real time with P95 running.
     
  8. Johnksss

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    yep, it will run.
     
  9. residualvoltage

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    usb keyboard worked for me so you don't need the keyboard in just plug the power button back in take it off of the palmrest its two screw or so. then plug lcd in as it wont start right without it in too. but keyboard, touchpad, wifi, wihd, bluetooth can all be unplugged that leaves two wires connected from lcd and one going to the little power button
     
  10. Johnksss

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    4.975 Seconds

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    4.965 Seconds

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  11. residualvoltage

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    John those are very fast runs very impressive! way to go and run 8threads at 4994mhz you should update you signature from 4933mhz to 4.994Ghz! My systems back tommorow can't wait to try my AC now... Only ever had 30min on one in past.
     
  12. Johnksss

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    Thanks. Was doing a little experimenting.

    Cant just yet. That's not a 1024 run on wprime

    Hopefully your machine will be in tip top condition once it gets here.
     
  13. residualvoltage

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    I got crap news my 2920xm was replaced at depot I'll have to see what kind of chip I inherited tomorrow. One things certain any little thing wrong if there is any I will be scrutinizing. i may push for new system if there is any remaining issues after already having new gpus and a full depot service...
     
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    Hummm, they replaced it with what?
     
  15. residualvoltage

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    The model number seems to be the 2920xm so I am hoping its on par with my previous... Which is seeming to be a very low chance based on submissions we have seen thus far... :(
     
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    So why would they replace your cpu though if it went for a gpu issue?
     
  17. residualvoltage

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    It went for no boot... 8 beeps repeated... States LCD issue but I read online eBay someone selling 2960xm broken yeah people are retarded but it stated system had 8beeps and was CPU related for them.
     
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    Yeah, he is crazy with that.
     
  19. residualvoltage

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    Originally yeah they thought video cards but system wouldn't boot still... Weird thing is I was booting igp when no mxm cards in... but perhaps after diagnosis they found a real issue on the CPU... Not sure but if it's a low binned chip ill be putting the system through a lot of scrutiny. I guess if at depot putting a new CPU cured all symptoms I can't argue with their reasoning... I wish it would arrive soon either way... Tommorow.
     
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    Well, just as long as you dont get one like Scook9 you'll be alright, but if you do....You will be mad at the world. Simply because you like to push the boundaries of a chip.
     
  21. residualvoltage

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    what can I say your right I love doing just that and seems like Shadens on the same kick... Lol you called it the itch once lol I won't be mad at world but probably will go search for another until its a nice extreme chip... Its been like this since 2 years ago i had my first unlocked chip 920xm =).

    Edit: John how high were you experimenting for on 1024m wprime?
     
  22. Johnksss

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    Going to start 4.9 ghz
     
  23. residualvoltage

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    Oh that's awesome I can't wait to see your progress your heading so close to higher binned than average 2600k territory not your 5.6 beast but definitely over the average 2600k on air and maybe lower binned ones on basic liquid cooling.
     
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    I think these machines have a max of 4.9 or just under that. Meaning they will drop speed anything above that.
     
  25. Shaden

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    Yea I am loving it too ... if my 2920xm isn't the best I am going to ebay it and then wait for the 3920s :)
     
  26. Johnksss

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    You still waiting shaden?
     
  27. Shaden

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    Yup ... Hoping it arrives the first of this week .... it should ... mon or tues ...
     
  28. residualvoltage

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    Shaden hope you get a real nice overclocker. Shaden any word though if we can get bios additions to support the 3920xm for drop in? John yeah from the looks 4.9 is probable max though even then probably needs quite some cooling. Interesting though if 4.9 can be maintained in most with no drop... Under permanent cooling solution like your portable ac unit. 4.9 running optimal is nothing to cough at that should get you well under your 159sec 1024m wprime. I've seen 149~ 1024m on 2600k @ 5.3ghz imnot sure of other scores for reference but even making no more progress at 159 your nearly there for a mobile form factor they seem to beat even mobilized 980x since they seem to produce less heat per clock than 980x but amazingly weren't they both 32nm production?
     
  29. Shaden

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    Dropping in the 3920 should be doable. I am fairly confident that Dell will add the 3xxx series to the alienware and a new Bios should be released for them ... looking good as far as I can tell.

    The official release date is still Q2 from Intel, although I have also seen April 2012 ... which would be interesting. But there are ES Chips out there now being tested ... can't be much longer.
     
  30. Mr. Fox

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    If you had an ES/QS 2920XM, I am surprised they replaced it. Was yours an OEM that came in your new M18x? Maybe you have an excellent OEM coming back to you. Wouldn't that be great?

    The 8 beeps and no boot is exactly what my last M18x was doing with HD 6990M CF. That problem started within around 2 weeks of receiving it. I used it nearly a month without discrete graphics. Finally received my current system with GTX 580M SLI as a replacement. My defective unit went directly to Louis in Alienware graphics engineering as a system capture.
     
  31. residualvoltage

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    Yes I heard bout the ES samples being out but most being on a different chipset not the one our M18x uses so hopefully Dell does release a bios update for them... There in no way required so if they make R2 M18x they may not release the add in code for Ivy bridge on the R1... But I am hopeful that we do get it just as much as you I'd pick up an ES if so.
     
  32. residualvoltage

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    Mr.Fox yes mine was thought to be just my 6970s and when they put in new ones it still had the 8 beeps. Yes i didn't have an ES i had mine OEM with my original order. Thank you yes i hope its a nice chip.
     
  33. Shaden

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    Hrm Chipset issues ...

    I know they are both (2920 and 3920) Socket G2 (rPGA988B) ...

    I have read the stuff suggesting HM67 will not be compatible ... but originally it was ... so who knows how this is going to pan out ...
     
  34. Johnksss

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    We are out of voltage my friend. You need to be above 1.55V and we are at 1.50V. So not going to happen.

    As to this 4.9 to 5.0 ghz stuff. I'm only running on a/c. no way would I even jeopardize my chip running without it. I'm not trying to shorten the life of it, but to only see what it's capable of doing. At the end of the day, I run stock. It's nice to know I have the power to run, but when im in the field.... I'm more concerned with battery life.. :).
     
  35. residualvoltage

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    I get that battery life on an over lock is non existent and as is the system is designed to throttle as I've tested on battery it likes speeds around baseclock and not much over on battery. You can force it via throttle stop but system will shut off from too much power draw if you lock it on too high a speed.
    figured thats how the 1024m wprime would go but made sense to reference we roll on AC ha ha lol. so what have you maintained then so far you must be getting closer at cracking your own 1024m score....
     
  36. Johnksss

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    Anyone with an oem can run 4.5 ghz for every day clocks. as long as they are sensible about it....But thinking someone is going to run like folding@home on a 4.50 ghz over clock is just asking for it. :)
     
  37. residualvoltage

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    Quite definitely I see that too. That ties in with the IBT discussion making 4.4-4.5 at 0-10flex the nice range for stuff such as folding @ home. I thought this one physx demo was neat... Fluid mark... You can make it run via CPU instead of the gpu over 8thread... It was quite powerful at loading the CPU much the same. Haven't visited folding at home I'll have to try it out... I seen Dr650Se has that 3000,000 points or something not sure.
     
  38. Tes96

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    I'm reading the conversation between Johnksss and ResidualVoltage and I can only understand parts of what they're saying. Haha, I certainly have a lot to learn about computer jargon. I hope to one day be up there with you guys. I want the kind of power that you two hold at your fingertips.

    Do you guys consider yourselves amongst the top overclocking kings? Or are there members on here more obsessed with overclocking than you? Fudge, I cannot wait to start overclocking. I do have a desktop from 1998; perhaps I can "practice" the science of overclocking on that.
     
  39. Johnksss

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    Another good way to test ones over clock while doing some good.. :D

    Actually, yes...along with quite a few others...when they have time.. :)
     
  40. Tes96

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    Haha, awesome! Do you presume that with the new Ivy-Bridge chips that are coming out in summer/fall 2012 for laptops, you will be able to overclock into the 6GHz range? Their transistors are 22 nanometers apart and the max CPU multiplier is 63 according to wikipedia, unless I'm reading it incorrectly.
     
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    Nope.
    Desktop chips are barely making it above 5.2 ghz. :)
     
  42. residualvoltage

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    yes there are some great skills here and many just waiting for the time to bench and post some scores.

    On the ivybridge mobile there may be some validations towards 5.4-5.5ghz but that's just a guess and handling in benching and real world use just a small step above SandyBridge... Overclocked extreme edition wise... Otherwise ivy will have sandy beat on base clocks... But overclocked there won't be out of this world jumps over this generation.
     
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    Opp's.... My bad...They are at 5.7 ghz right now.
     
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    How is it that a laptop chip is able to be overclocked to almost the same frequency as a desktop chip, John? Your 5.2Ghz is only 431 MHz away from being on par with a desktop overclock speed. Is this being compared with a similar desktop chip, like the 990x? I know the 3960x is not a huge improvement from the 2960xm, seeing as it's biggest feature is 6 cores, not four. But who the fudge uses 6 cores any ways?
     
  45. residualvoltage

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    The 3960x is a desktop chip and its one strong beast Conkers@ Tech Inferno has one and it scores some nasty numbers. The 2960xm doesn't actually come near the 3960x in any heavy load or bench. Desktops still reign as king and its still apples to oranges in the computer world... Its beautiful to see mobile platform so fast and so furious but no way are we close to the true max of a desktop CPU... And sadly its only due to heat dissipation in a small form factor being incapable of keeping up with desktop cooling solutions and ultimately the biggest is the supply voltage even on these unlocked extreme mobile chips are limiting the ranges we can get since as John pointed out... to go much farther then has already been benched requires more voltage than can be supplied so 1.5v core won't get us farther than you've seen and ivy bridge XM will no doubt have a max voltage as well and as these mobile form factors go and die shrinkage we may see a max volt core lower than the 1.5v of sandy extreme mobile.
     
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    That's 5.26 ghz on 2 cores. Quite a bit a ways from 8 cores. :)

    As to desktop chips....These are pretty darn close. And in allot of cases...better. (First Gen I7's)

    They def hold their own, that's for sure.
     
  47. residualvoltage

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    They definitely hold their own they can probably beat most of AMD's line up too =) just noting under optimal overclocks on mobile and desktop from same Gen.... The desktops win but given fair comparisons such as both on air cooling they can almost beat some of those desktops like John said they more then hold their own. Stock clocks 980x vs 2920xm the 2920xm beat it in most except highly threaded high load apps... So even under an overclock its even better for mobile do yeah mobile XM has been a rocking scene. Night Brother John my system should be here in couple hours then it will be time to see what kind of chip they sent. Gonna stick to stock paste this time around at least on CPU since last time only 1/3 repastings had better temps then stock the others were extremely worse. Dell did say they are using a very good thermal material.
     
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    Alright got my refund issued on that fake 2920xm..too bad PayPal is holding the funds for another 3 days! Went ahead and bought a 2920xm QS from a reputable seller for $500. Hopefully it gets here quickly from overseas. In a couple weeks I should also be able to get my hands on a 3920xm for review purposes.
     
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    Nice.

    If you got it from Shirley it should take like 3 days or so. Mine got here about that fast.
     
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    Didn't deal with Shirley, he didn't seem to reply to inquiries I sent him. Found someone equally as good who gave me a nice media discount + sending me 3920xm samples.
     
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