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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware M18x Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by BatBoy, Apr 30, 2011.

  1. steviejones133

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    call of prypiat ( s.t.a.l.k.e.r. ) BENCH MARK comparison 6990M CF vs OC'ed 580M SLI:

    Day - 22.9% 580M SLI
    Night - 30.8% 580M SLI
    Rain - 24.2% 580M SLI
    Sun shafts - 43.3% 580M SLI

    So OC'ed 580M SLI wins in the average of 30.3% in STALKER! And the difference between 580M SLI stock vs 580M SLI OC'ed in the same game is 14%)
     
  3. steviejones133

    steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Still, thats ONE game....

    I think we really need to see some stock and OC results for 6990xf and 580m sli for ALL of the futuremark stuff....vantage, 06 and 11.....all set out nice and neat, side by side and then we will see who the real crown goes to.....similar or same system specs would be great too for added accuracy. You cant say either is superior based on the bench results of one game that may be biased towards one or the other vendor....
     
  4. Johnksss

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    My out the box attempt...
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  5. Rafix

    Rafix Cave Canem

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    Just for reference I post my disappointing 6505 3dmark 11 score with clocks 740/825/1480 and 269.03 drivers. That's going to be it, I call myself out of the benchmarking carousel this time -- I gave everything I had with the 6970CF I formerly owned.
     
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    wow ! now that's a good surprise having you here with the M18X i am sure you will help this community congrats on your purchase ;)
     
  7. steviejones133

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    No way! - your 6970's beat the 580's by THAT margin.....gotta be something up with that, right? - bad cards / drivers or something is amiss there.....

    Im beginning to think that 6970 is (or was while it was available) the "sweet spot" for the M18x right now......not just saying that as I have them but from the results ive seen for both 6990m and 580m so far, they arent that great to say the least....impartially speaking, if someone offered me the option of any gpu option (6970/6990/580), I would be thinking of 6970.....which shouldnt be the case, right? - I mean, lots of people were posting up mark '11 scores close to 8k and some just over 8k......makes me think whats goin on here!
     
  8. Johnksss

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    thanks sir


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  9. BDRracing

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    Your cards like 3D Vantage.
    Can you make a run for me please?
     
  10. Speedy Gonzalez

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    Don't get me wrong. 3Dmark score is disappointing respect to that of the 6970s , but the 580m sli in-game performance is better than the 6970CF by a wide margin - noticeable in all demanding games such as the Crysis saga, Metro 2033, etc. I'm very satisfied by the cards and from the fps I see playing I don't think that there's anything wrong with them. I just don't feel like starting all the modding, clock setting, cooling etc all over again just to gain a few points with the benchies.

    For what concerns the 6970s behavior with benchmarks I agree with you; overclocking and get great scores was relatively doable, it felt they were meant to it. Unless you got unlucky like those few people who got chips that didn't like the slightest OC.
     
  12. steviejones133

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    Fair play - I just thought you were not happy with the 580's v the 6970's......synthetic vs real world can be a big margin.....
     
  13. Rafix

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    Yes, for what concerns benchmarking yes. I was expecting to be somehow lower -- since the 6970 got plenty of attention and time devoted to their OC -- but not by that much. So, it was just that. As I mentioned in the former post, playing games the 580m is far superior to the 6970, and that's what really matters to me.
     
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    used the same settings as the sli 580m run

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    thanks in that case something is wrong with my drivers or some and i think you beat the 580 score lol :D
     
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    i havent changed anything yet...still using the same dell drivers....but if im that close....then maybe i can beat it when i get around to testing drivers...maybe.
     
  17. Rafix

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    As requested, here you are. I've got a 26650
     
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    Thank you.
    This thread is good for learning what combo's work best be it a PC config or drivers ect......
    I took a look at Vestitas run and see that score of 3D Vantage P27643 was with the same XM over clock, 724 838 1448 GPU over clock but noticed a 8.17.12.8019 GPU Driver. Your driver is 8.17.12.6903, Maybe this is a better driver and could help in every day gaming? Thanks Again.
     
  19. Speedy Gonzalez

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    here is heaven 2.5 DX11 that benchmark looks beautiful

    1920X1080
    shaders high
    tessellation extreme
    anisotropy 16
    anti aliasing 4X
    textures high
    filter trilinear
    stock
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    overclock 825-1100
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  20. DR650SE

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    I think it kinda makes sense. A little. About the 6970s vs 6990s/580s. They have less shaders so there can be more voltage to the core. Which makes a bigger difference I think.
     
  21. Aikimox

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    It's too early to draw conclusions :)

     
  22. Mr. Fox

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    Here's my S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat bench at 818/1100. Turned out pretty well...
     

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    Hey Speedy, this is interesting. Left my memory @ stock and raised core to 830. Peak FPS were not quite as high, average FPS changed very little very close, but lowest FPS were significantly improved. Compare this to what I posted above a few minutes ago.

    S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat has got to be one of the most boring benchmarks on earth. I totally agree with those comments from this morning.
     

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    Hi Mr Fox,

    I hope your using the above advance settings as well, as it seems Pustul is using the same card as you. Both of you are getting completly different results (huge differences here) which tells me somethings not right.
     
  25. Mr. Fox

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    No, I'm not. I totally missed the fact that Pustul had altered his advanced settings. I am so used to assuming program default settings for benchmarks that I must have not paid close enough attention. Altering advanced settings is seldom a good idea and almost always leads to inconsistent results that are difficult to compare. In fact, some of NBR's most dedicated overclockers have suggested to me and other forum members to always use benchmark software default settings as often as possible and I've pretty much stuck with that ever since.

    Below is how the advanced defaults should look. If Pustul goes back to default settings his results should improve. (If not, then there may be something wrong but I would not worry until we see what happens.) I have some of these settings disabled at the driver level, so enabling the defaults will not even work unless I go undo other things that I have fixed.

    [​IMG]
     
  26. bar-code

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    Cool my results were per pustal settings ill test tonight on default as well and see what happens tnx
     
  27. Rafix

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    No problem man.

    Yes, I think that there's much room from improvements concerning benchmarks. In the next few weeks we'll see tweaking, OCing and various ways to push the cards to their extremes as it has always happened. My main concern remain high settings gameplay smoothness (where some OC can help).

    When you said that it's a better driver, were you referring to the 8.17.12.8019?
     
  28. Red Line

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    I really hope that fellas with AMD cards didn't use any performance tweaks while benching games like you did with 3dmark11/vantage to get 8k+/27K+ marks?

    Nice gob Speedy with Heaven 2.5 run. Lets use this tool for the next 580M SLI vs 6990M CF battle, guys. The settings should be:

    here is heaven 2.5 DX11 that benchmark looks beautiful

    1920X1080
    shaders - high
    tessellation - extreme
    anisotropy - 16
    anti aliasing - 4X
    textures - high
    filter - trilinear
     
  29. Nicholaus.rossi

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    I'll second that. I stated before that my rig destroyed my friends i7 950@4ghz and a single 480 in Heaven 2.5 at stock settings. When we turned Tessellation to extreme, you could really see how much better Fermi cards can handle it. It went from me beating him by 15-17FPS to beating him by 1-2FPS by JUST changing tessellation from normal to extreme.

    Not trying to be fanboyish (note that I have team red in my system at the moment). But I would like to see some realistic DX11 + tessellation performance tests that don't favor either card. Leave it to raw power. Vantage had stupid PhysX to cheat with - granted most people disable it for real bench runs, and '11 uses AMD's bullet physics engine. Unigine might be a solid test to determine the true crown-holder in this battle.
     
  30. cookinwitdiesel

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    Bullet is not an AMD tech.....

    And vantage with PhysX turned off is a very fair comparison for DX10

    And it has been no secret that Fermi is a tesselation monster - that is what they designed it to be
     
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    I'll test this as per quote later tonight base version thx Redline :)
     
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    Bullet Physics

    That's where I got that information from. AMD didn't invent it, but they are co-creators. Unless of course this is false information in which case... whoops? :rolleyes:
     
  33. Mr. Fox

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    Just a tad better on 3DMark11 than before @ P6867
     

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    im thinking something is wrong with your 3d11
    your gpu score is pretty low
     
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    Yeh, my machine came with the 269.03 driver installed (and i believe is the one currently downloadable from Dell) and the only thing i've changed is the driver. Haven't touched the bios / voltage etc yet - though looking at Bar-codes thread it doesnt look like it makes a difference with the stuttering so perhaps this will be resolved with a later driver as it does seem odd.

    Looking at your score I notice that you've got the core at 740 - which I think is causing you a problem. If you look at your fps for New Calico it's only at 75 - i'd hazard a guess that this is because you're stuttering close to the end of the test which drags down your average (for me this always seems to occur just after you do the spinny bit towards the sun then head back to the ship).

    If you try lowering the core to around the 720 mark then run it you'll probs find your score goes up.
     
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    Here you go Mr Fox default settings run on S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat bench with 580m sli

    As you can see the 580m still beats the hd6990m

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    overclocked
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    As per request settings on Heaven 2.5 basic edition 580m sli

    this benchmark looks beautiful, Now enough benching time to start enjoying this baby :)



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    And yes heaven 2.5 DX11 benchmark is beautiful
     

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    Way to go, dude! Those are nice scores! However, I only wish that I had HD6990M. I have less expensive HD6970M. It would be nice to see someone with HD6990 run this bench for comparison to our scores.
     
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    This is just for comparison with desktop GPU's. 580M SLI stock scores the same as EVGA GTX 580 SC, which is nice)
     
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    hey hey lol! :)
     
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    I am glad we switching to Heaven to be honest the STALKER benchmark is so boring ugly depressing and for the numbers we was getting looks like is not even working on DX11 lol

    so what we have here looks like this bench is pretty equal between 580 and 6990 ?
     
  42. steviejones133

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    Going by yours and barcodes results, seems the 6990 is a fraction in the lead base on Heaven 2.5....not much in it as far as I can tell....
     
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    Hows the 6970 compare in Heaven 2.5 DX11? What kinda scores to they yield? Havn't had much time to be on NBR except on my phone :(
     
  44. steviejones133

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    Will test out and report back!
     
  45. Mr. Fox

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    For the sake of consistency, I need to ask why are we using manually set options for benchmarks? Why not use benchmark default settings so we get consistent comparisons of hardware performance? This is my recommendation.

    [​IMG]
     
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    would make much more sense to use default....
     
  47. Red Line

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    The same way we don't bench Crysis on medium! That's not enough for the GPU's you've got :D I don't think you'll need 90fps+ scores)
     
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    if Heaven benchmark was a game what settings you will like to use? :)
     
  50. Mr. Fox

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    If Heaven benchmark were a game, I would use whatever settings yields the highest FPS and put less overhead load/heat on the system.
     
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