*OFFICIAL* Alienware M18xR1/R2/18 Benchmark Thread - Part 3

@thebigdawg Something else to check, in "advanced power settings" check that maximum processor state is set at 100%

If that's still no good, I have read that updating Intel thermal platform (or Intel Dynamic platform and thermal framework) solved extreme throttling like you have having, so that would also be worth a shot. Seeing as there are no Windows 10 drivers for the M18x R2 it might worth un-installing the Intel thermal platform and see if that makes any difference before installing the latest windows 8/8.1 drivers from dell drivers website.

Otherwise I'm out of ideas aside from using Throttlestop

 

thanks again kenny,

i did some searches based on your advice and on one post there was a suggestion to someone in a similar situation, also going with your idea of throttleStop.

'The most likely cause of this problem is a bad sensor on your motherboard. When a sensor goes bad, it can send a signal to your CPU which will force your CPU to start thermal throttling and running at its lowest speed even though your CPU temperature is fine.
To test for this problem with ThrottleStop, you need to disable the BD PROCHOT function. Make sure that box is not checked. Disabling BD PROCHOT disables this signal path to your CPU. Your CPU will still thermal throttle just like normal if it gets too hot regardless of any setting in ThrottleStop but it will ignore any outside signals to throttle.'

well doing this it instantly jumped from its usual 800 MHz up to 3292 MHz and under load to 3606 MHz.

im going to try your first suggestion tho in relation to the intel thermal platform drivers and see if this is the origin of the problem but at least now i have an option open to me to get the cpu up to its max speeds.
ill update here if that turns out to be the root of the problem for anyone else who might encounter this problem.

anyway, thanks again kenny, i really appreciate all your help.

 

@thebigdawg your welcome, anytime.

At least your computer is usable for the short term, Thanks for quoting what you found that is some good information on what the BD PROCHOT function does.

If you could update us that would be sweet.

 

If you have the svl7 or swick unlocked BIOS mods you can (and should) disable BDPROCHOT in the BIOS and turn off all sensors on the CPU Thermal Configuration menu. Max out the other settings right above the sensors as well. Doing all of those things should stop thermal throttling. The CPU will still shut down the system if it hits the thermal trip point, but it should then run full blast without thermal throttling until shutdown.

 

thanks Mr.Fox ill install those mods and give it a try. sorry for late reply but i was away 10 days. on the bright side when i returned home my new heat sinc had been delivered so i can now finally install the 3940xm i got a few months back.
just wondering, should i try all this before i upgrade the cpu to make sure its all working or does it really matter? i found your vids on youtube on disassembly of the m18x, its really helpful!

 

Doesn't matter. Just to stuff in stages and test in between to make troubleshooting (if any) as simplified as possible.

 

What is the fastest stable memory for the M18x R2 again? I'd like to step up from 1600 MHZ. I remember coming across a post here describing some 2133 MHz memory running stable out of the box but when I looked up that model nothing came back.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?threads/745512/

Is this HyperX the same as the Corsair Vengeance 2133 MHz memory recommended above albeit a different brand?

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16820104562

That Corsair is out of stock.

 

I might have a deal on 780M SLI, is it worth the upgrade from 680M SLI? What kind of performance improvement percentage wise are we looking at? I'm actually completely over 2GB of VRAM to be honest.

Edit:

Going by Mr. Fox's Firestrike scores on page 1 here it looks to be a worthwhile investment if I can get a bargain. Looking at a 20% improvement, with Firestrike GPU going from 12k to 14.6k. Real world performance can be gleaned from the detailed scores, Graphics Test 1 goes from 58 to 71 FPS and Combined from 15 to 19 FPS.

Combined goes from 3300 to 4100, a nearly 25% improvement.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/863376

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2330540

 

If not Ngreedia gimp the overclocked performance further.

 

Are they really?

BTW, wanna trade your P870 for my M18x R2?

Two GPU's for one, can't beat that!

 

780m Sli vs Single 980? No thanks And I will probably not go back to Alienware!! + Mr. Azor run everything right in the toilet!! And Alienware isn't the same as before.

 

I completely agree.

Unfortunately I don't have $2500+ lying around for a P870 G equipped with a desktop GTX 980 / 1080.

So 60Hz and 780M SLI it is for the foreseeable future.

 

What happened to your desktop beast? Part with some of your toys and I reckon you'll have enough.

 

I went 980M! Benchmark in signature and I've been making a bit of noise over in Swick's BIOS thread here.

 

I recently aqcuired a late 7970M, one of the higher asic models at 78%. I ran it in the M18x R1 for ****s and giggles:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11453198
I have no idea why Futuremark thinks the graphics driver is not approved...i'm running stock 16.7.3 crimson driver.

What a beast it came out to be, for a single card from 2012. 1000/1300 at stock voltage. Must be the one of the highest single 7970M score out there

 

Actually not.....Not in the top 60 at least....
http://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode...gpu/3dm11/P/807/13788?minScore=51&gpuName=AMD Radeon HD 7970M

 

?
Link not working, giving dual 7970M setups and only shows one glitched out reading for single 7970M

 

You need to click the link
Set it to 1
Take check out of show only valid results.
Then click more results.
Then wait then click it again when it comes up and keep repeating.

 

I'm talking only about valid results. Those are ridiculous for 7970M scores, that's on par with a 970M. My driver will probably be validated as soon as futuremark adds it to the database, it did come out today after all

 

Well, yours isn't validated either, but you can always use a driver that is validated to correct that.

As to the other scores...most of them were cheating to begin width. They ran the tessellation modified.
Here is a more legitimate list to go by...
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/3dmark11...t=-9&cores=1#rankBy=teams#start=0#interval=20
Here you would rank 4th in the world for single gpu.... But also hard to tell if the driver is valid or not.

 

Jesus that TI card is insane...1111 on the core???

 

That would be Khenglish. He is no joke when it comes to overclocking. And your score is really no joke either. Considering you're only on stock voltage.

 

For all of you guys out there that have suffered with 880M SLI performance problems for years now, I think there might be a light at the end of the tunnel. Once 3DMark adds the hardware ID (requested) theses scores will be validated with the GPUs recognized. If I had a better vBIOS for these 880M cards I might come very close to 980M SLI. This is further confirmation of NVIDIA driver manipulation shenanigans. I don't know if 780M SLI users will benefit or not. I hope so.

Here's a new 880M SLI world record in Fire Strike.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9676618



Here is the highest recorded 880M SLI score for 3DMark 11 on a laptop with a quad core... Not far behind the highest score recorded by a P570WM with 4930K CPU.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11477144



Here's a new world record for Vantage... even beat P570WM with 4930K and 880M SLI, LOL.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5494845

 

Since when are you running 880M SLI??? What year is it??

 

These GPUs came out of an Alienware 18 that I repaired for a friend in Canada. I took them in trade for the work I did. I'm just benching them a bit and then they are going back up for sale again. They have been sold 3 times on eBay and I never got paid. I have been waiting for about two months for a member of our community to pay for them and I am running out of patience.

But, I am impressed with how well they do. I finally beat my own 780M SLI high score in 3DMark 11. I did not think that would ever be possible with 880M, but I think NVIDIA must have forgotten to add in the Kepler cripple code on this driver.

Had one of my 980M cards not been accidentally broken, I probably never would have tested them.

 

@Raidriar - Here are some photos of them. I don't see a date sticker on them, but I think only Clevo uses the date stickers.

http://imgur.com/a/QqSlE

 

These 880m won't get the same treatment when running in an Alienware m18x/18 , unless you have a clevo laptop running the same specs as yours. It's already proven. Any hardware will run better , not running with Alienware ... lol

 

Seems to be universal now... 780M, 880M and 980M all run worse on an Alienware. I don't understand why, but I bet someone at Alienware knows and doesn't give a rat's butt about it.

 

If/when their new flagship comes , it will make my final decision for Alienware for goods.

 

Let me know what you plan to do with the busted 980M...i'm looking for guinea pigs for my own hardware mods

 

Yeah u have probably same batch as me that worked as it should compared to other 880m's and newer drivers are improving the situation more and more. I got no problems on 353.06 but my performance improved a bit on 368. Maybe that's why I never encountered a problem of throttling.

I've read dozens reports of throttling but never encountered a throttling 880m in m18xR1. Always in r2 or 18

 

Unless you did not read the opening post at Tech|Inferno, my busted 980M is already accounted for. @Khenglish accidentally broke it doing some hard mods to it and that is the GPU he put the desktop 980 core on the 980M PCB. So, I am trying to source another 980M to replace that one. I am letting Khenglish keep it since I have no use for it without a matching GPU to run in SLI, plus he deserves to keep it since it is his own one-of-a-kind creation. Here is a link to post #1 https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...ardware-mod-980m-to-desktop-980-core-upgrade/

These are holding full core and memory clocks 100% now even at 1200/1600 and 1.181V.

I just took first place and set new world records on Fire Strike, 3DMark 11 and Vantage for 880M SLI... These comparisons links are against current first place scores. Once 3DMark adds my hardware ID these will show in search results and displace the guys currently in the #1 spot to the #2 and #3 spots based on what I have uploaded today. To my surprise, the top scores I beat were a P570WM with 4930K and 880M SLI. Compare these runs to stock 980M SLI.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/2402025/fs/9686855

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/8510683/3dm11/11477498

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dmv/5067708/3dmv/5494902




@joluke @Zero989

 

Interesting comparison... 980M SLI (overclocked, but not top scores) and the above 880M SLI 3DMark 11 run, all three in quad core laptops. Not as good as 980M SLI, but getting closer than we might have expected.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9171430/3dm11/10102817/3dm11/11477498

 

Lol my are running on 824 MHz.

How did you bypassed 135MHz oc limit?

 

Have you ever heard about mod vBios?

 

Yeah johnkss one bricked my cards so I had to desolder bios chip

Lol that's my thousandth post

 

Yeah, it's borrowed vbios from @johnksss collection

 

If you edit the svl7/johnksss vBIOS files from Tech|Inferno it will soft brick the GPUs. This is done to stop people from modding it, taking credit for it, and/or attempting to profit by stealing from people that actually possess talent. All they will own is liability for screwing things up, LOL. Unfortunately, it will do the same thing to honest people. I bricked one of these cards by modding it and flashing it because I forgot that @johnksss and @svl7 had put that in place. It was easy to fix with access to an SLI machine. I did not need to pull the vBIOS chip off. It's always a good idea to flash the master GPU first, stop and reboot. If things turn out poorly, you can swap slots with the GPUs and flash the bricked one in the slave slot. If you flash both and reboot, that could be a problem unless you have a third GPU to use in the master slot.

The @Prema vBIOS is edit protected. That's safer for everyone, but I think the way svl7 and John did it is a whole lot funnier in a sadistic way because it takes crooks and losers by surprise and places them in a compromising pants-down position with bricked GPUs. If they take credit for it before it gets flashed, how in the hell are they going to explain the bricked GPUs LOL (swift move Exlax, ha ha)? Even funnier if they took money for the GPU bricking vBIOS. I'm sure most of them are too stupid to know how to fix it, too. Nice way of killing a liars' reputation. But, sad for the noob with bricked GPUs that did not know he was a liar and just wanted help.

 

driver optimization gimp in newer games!

 

I wanted to lower the original clock to give the a longer life. Nice way to brick my laptop, guy who invented this type of "security" is an idiot. I flashed both cards at the same time becaue I didn't even thought that someone could be that retarded to brick my card if I just change the clock. I guess im smarter now.

 

Well, I'm not glad that it happened to you, but I think they are smart for doing that. When people from China, Korea and Taiwan make a habit of taking your work, removing your signature and adding their own, then selling it and lying to people about being the author it starts to make a little more sense. That happened multiple times, so they figured out a way to turn the tables and screw those liars. I have no tolerance for liars and thieves. That is also one of the reasons they implemented controls over who can download files from Tech|Inferno. It used to be open access before scumbags started stealing work from the talented people there. @svl7 @johnksss @Prema and others have all been victims of those pirate scumbags.

Also, there were lots of drive-by downloaders that were happy to register on the forum only for the purpose of taking files from their community and offer nothing in return. Makes good sense to me. We see temper tantrums in our community about the download restriction and it is a good reminder of why they have those controls in place. Those ungrateful people that pitch a fit about it are an example of why they do.

 

They could at least write in the bios thread to not modify it with BIOS editor, was that so hard? Im really upset now. All I wanted was to lower the clock so I could overclock more than 135MHz when I wanted without having more heat all the time.

 

Glad you fixed the problem, but always a good advice to talk with the author of the unlocked firmvare if you want edit his mod. Modders will always protect their own work!! Firmvare and bricking is a well known topic so take the extra step is important.

 

Ah yes, I remember that. That was when you talkt to @Mr. Fox asking for his help to fix it.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r-flashing-unlocked-vbios-how-to-igfx.771267/

https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/7067-gtx-880m-bricked-after-flashing-unlocked-vbios-how-to-igfx/#comment-109266

You know, the threads where you never said you altered the vbios file that you were not suppose to alter.

It was a long running thing from jan to may about why there was no release of the 880M, so save it.

Lets get the ball rolling with some more of your nonsense. Here is your opening post. Not one word about you modding the vbios. Why? You did not pm me or svl7 because we would have posted it in the forums. And the one or two people that did alter it came clean and told others not to do it.

Hey,
Becuase of power limits sets in stock bios I've decided to flash SVL7 vbios which has power limits removed. However I get no post, just black screen. Blind flash method is not working as the catrds won't allow me to go through POST. I have unlocked A05 bios. Is there a way to boot using IGFX without dissasembling whole laptop and removing both cards?
Regards

So before you go bad mouthing people make sure you present all the facts first!

 

Save your insults for someone else because you are done for me. I wonder how you even got a label "vBIOS by johnksss". Did you hex "by svl7" to add yourself?

And vBIOS was [****] anyway because got some weird flickering at all. Even retards from nvidia did it better than you. Instead of fixing cards you messed everything up. I had to hardware program BIOS chip because of your stupidity. Congratulations "modder". Im glad you don't have 880M anymore, you won't mess them up more. Do some 980M killing vBIOS now please.

 

I saved it for you, now quit crying and go brick your laptop again for not reading instructions correctly.

Looks like it's working like a charm
*OFFICIAL* Alienware M18xR1/R2/18 Benchmark Thread - Part 3

 

Hey bro. Those wicked 880M SLI benchmarks I ran a few days ago was with @johnksss vBIOS. And, so were my killer 780M SLI benchmarks before that. And, all of his world record 980M SLI benchmarks are his own vBIOS (as far as I know). I don't know what went wrong when you tried it, and I'm sorry it did not turn out right at the time. But, he definitely knows what he is doing. Both of us worked with svl7 on vBIOS mods, but John actually learned how to do it. (Yes, I am jealous about that part.)

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11583651

Single 980M in the baby beast!

 

wow nice score ...mr.fox is the windows 10 issue fixed now which was killing the alienware laptops - its been a while since i was on the forum so thought i ask you directly .

i am considering get my old 18 4940mx gtx 880m sli laptop back which i sold a a while back , it has windows 7 which came with it ..

can i install windows 10 with no issues or is the problem still there .