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    M17 General Information Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware Area-51/Aurora and Legacy Systems' started by julian-nold, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    for anyone looking at getting a solid deal on a new M17, check out the Alienware eBay outlet store

    they have a decent sale today when combined with Bing CashBack
     
  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    did you get one?
     
  3. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

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    my m17 only worth £600 pounds jeees
     
  4. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Na, I am going to just get an M11x for classes and travel and keep my M17x as my "desktop" lol
     
  5. fusionsenses

    fusionsenses The Unbannable

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    I don't see any M17 in the outlet.
     
  6. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    8700GT Santa Rosa based systems for $1400. That's probably twice the value.
     
  8. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    well there is a reason I was only pointing people to the M17 Mandrake lol
     
  9. Mandrake

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    I know but I was pointing out obvious flaws in their "sale".
     
  10. freedom16

    freedom16 Notebook Deity

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    Yeah this machine seems to be a solid build and awesome performance, is bing doing anymore cashbacks this weekend? The alienware series aren't bad just really expensive but what sucks is the fact you can't get a decent warranty with their outlet store its quite wrong that you spend all that money and if anything happens hardware products are very very expensive.
     
  11. cleverpseudonym

    cleverpseudonym PG RATED

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    <-------Soon to be new M17 Owner..Woot!
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    You will like it, congrats
     
  13. freedom16

    freedom16 Notebook Deity

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    How much would dell charge me for 4850's? how good are 4850's compared to the 4870s? Can i get an extended warranty for like a year or so? Also do i have the same options as to have 16 different colors as other machines or do I have to hack something? Also why aren't there any original m17x owners around?
     
  14. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

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    Are you talking about the M17x or the M17 now?

    The 4850's are difficult to get from Dell, good luck if you try, i gave up at some point and got them off ebay.

    They will probably chage you around 500-600 US dollars for the master and slave IF you can get them.

    4870's dont work in the M17, and your warrenty extension is not going to happen as the M17 laptops is end of life.

    I am an orginal M17 owner :).
     
  15. cleverpseudonym

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    i am somewhat excited to get it,tyty!
     
  17. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    these are the 4870 for the m17x they wont work in the m17
     
  18. cleverpseudonym

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    so just the ever elusive 4850's that will work
     
  19. ShinJ

    ShinJ Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes it has almost the same specs as 4870 though. 4870 is just clocked slightly higher
     
  20. freedom16

    freedom16 Notebook Deity

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    Yes i was talking about the M17, do you ever think there will be a m17 newer machine, for something cheaper, i mean the m15x is kinda cheap but its really crap in my opinion. Like instead of a 1 gig cross fire have a 512mb cross fire just like this machine was and others, nothing wrong about those.
     
  21. EviLCorsaiR

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    Not likely. They have their flagship 17", 15" and now 11" models. I doubt they'd bring in a model of same size as another, that's if they even bring a new one out which I don't expect them to do for a long time now.
     
  22. cleverpseudonym

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    <----just got my M17 10 mins ago!!!!!.....i feel like a child but, damn these things are sexy!!!!!!


    ok, this has the .29 bios installed, how do i enter the bios, cause it goes str8 to the windows boot screen, which key do i hold down or press as it comes on.....

    thanks!
     
  23. DHC

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    I believe it was F2 :).

    Congrats with the system!
     
  24. cleverpseudonym

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    any reason the mulitiplier wouldnt apply its self to the cpu? i changed it in the bios, but it still reads the stock #s in everest & cpu-z..any thoughts?
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

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    the multiplier only actual changes something if you have an extreme cpu installed

    otherwise you can change it in the bios but it will not have any effect
     
  26. cleverpseudonym

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    i thought that the .29 bios allowed for oc'ing for regular cpu's...maybe i thought wrong? the cpu i have is a "es" so maybe thats why?
     
  27. julian-nold

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    infact I think the new bios only allowes you to oc Exteem CPUs^^

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  28. cleverpseudonym

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    i was looking @ this

    thats why assumed i would be able to OC a non-extreme cpu through the bios

    so can i change the back light on the keybaord or does it stay red?


    thanks!
     
  29. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    that means you will be able to use the intel XTU and adjust the fsb and voltage

    the multiplier is hardwired into the CPU chip and cannot be changed via bios except for the extreme models
     
  30. tonytoff

    tonytoff Notebook Deity

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    If you want to change the backlit feyboard press FN and F10 to cycle throught the 3 colours.....green is the brightest by far IMHO.
     
  31. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I agree, green was easily the brightest
     
  32. ShinJ

    ShinJ Notebook Evangelist

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    Agree too, blue is the dimmest and its like you never turned on anything. Only QX9300 and X9100 and Q9200 will be affected by the BIOS multiplier settings IMHO
     
  33. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    When I got my M17x itw as really like night and day difference in backlights haha
     
  34. ShinJ

    ShinJ Notebook Evangelist

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    Ya I can see that on picture. No idea why the light in m17 is so dim.
     
  35. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    nice. what specs?
    i miss mines. :(
     
  36. cleverpseudonym

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    Wuxga, T9400(gonna wait for the qx9300 to drop below a rent payment..)...4gb ocz1333 ram, 2x160gb hdd, 3870x-fire...just got a OCZ 64gb ssd to put in it and i have a seagate 250gb 7200 left over from the 5 i bought from Wanziboi in the marketplace.......turbodtalon had the blue lid on it but i put the black lid on it yesterday, i like the black its sexy...the damn minus key is sticky though!!!!...hehe i suppose ill remove it and clean it see if it fixes it no worries, i have about 16 laptops(mostly repair,upgrade & sell) but by far this is the most impressive one i own......

    but a am i to understand that i can use the XTU program to overclock then? is this better than setFSB then? the setFSB auto tool works decent but i seem to hit a stability wall around 2.87-2.90..so i wonder if Xtu would be a better solution?

    BTW the Green is by far the brightest on the Keyboard..thanks!!!!!!!
     
  37. dondadah88

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    xtu is more stable then setfsb and you can also control the voltages in it.
     
  38. cleverpseudonym

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    i might throw that T9300 in here, it seems to like the higher clock speeds, i ran orthos with it @3.2 for 1 hour and it never BSOD =0)

    does anyone have a link to download the Intel XTU?
     
  39. tonytoff

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    The sooner you slap in a SSD and extreme processor the better......it really improved the performance of my M17.
    Im sure you will get some extra juice from the OC though.....good luck and enjoy.
     
  40. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i hit 3.125 stable with that t9300 and 3.212 for benchmarking perfectly fine.
     
  41. cleverpseudonym

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    how much of a perf boost do you think the 1066 fsb(in the t9400) is worth?
     
  42. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i don't get what you mean????
    ok i think i know what you mean. the t9400 isn't worth it over the t9300. matter fact the t9300 is a better cpu then the t9400.
     
  43. cleverpseudonym

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    yeah i was meaning i have the t9400 installed it basically the same cpu as the t9300 except it (the t9400) has a 1066fsb, and the t9300 has the 800fsb, so i was wondering if it mattered enough to keep the t9400 in or should i just use the t9300 beacuse its a seeminglly more OC friendly cpu.

    thanks
     
  44. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i would try both but i would bet the t9300 is better is cooling, tdp, and speed.
     
  45. cleverpseudonym

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    i ran the t9400 oc'to 2.89 and ran the 3870,s at stock ond got a 3dmark06 score of 12089.

    i ran the t9300 overclocked to the same speed and got 12134. i lol'd
    i cant get anymore out of the t9400, but was able to get a decent 13983, with the t9300 at 3.15, & the 3870s at 700&1000 =)
     
  46. dondadah88

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    that's because of the e0 vs c0 stepping and that's a really good t9300.

    also you have to consider the fsb vs multiplier.
    the t9300 is 12.5 and 800mhz
    the t9400 is 9.5 and 1066mhz
    the chipset is only recommend to handle a max of 1333mhz
    when stock you sshould see the t9400 at higher temps becasue of the higher fsb.

    when you pump up the fsb you should see the t9300 getting to the stock t9400 of 1066. (1000mhz=3.125ghz and 1066=3.33ghz)

    compared to the t9400(i never overclocked my t9400 when i had it :()

    you should also know that they are the same cpu's intel made just change the stepping to the final one(e0) lowered the multiplier and up'd the fsb... that's why you may get around the limits when you overclock....

    if you run both at stock the t9400 should out perform the t9300 by a hair
     
  47. TurbodTalon

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    Sorry, wrong thread.
     
  48. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hey you can't post and delete. Now I need to know what you said. :(
     
  49. SithFrog

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    Has anyone tried and succeeded instaling and using 10.1 catalyst drivers on M17 with two 3870`s in CrossFire?
     
  50. ShinJ

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    nope failed when installing it. Anyone know how to install the newest desktop driver from mobility modder because currently the mobility modder isn't working.
     
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