Alienware M11x Debut Discussion

Gamer360, what does it matter? If it comes by 2/2 or 2/5 then we're good cuz it's a lot earlier than the dates you're lookin at. Either way, sooner the better. If you look through Darkhan's previous posts, he's been a valid source on calling dates regarding Dell.

 

It's not just power though, it's heat as well. Granted there's no northbridge to cool in the i5/i7 chipsets but at the same time, the chipset with the C2D ULV doesn't create as much heat as an 18W TDP i5/i7 would compared to the 10W C2D.

I'm just speculating here though.

Hopefully it will come out with a ULV i5/i7 as an option, but I doubt it personally.

 

The GPU, CPU, NB will ALL be on the same heatpipe/cooling fan network. SO regardless of what piece contributes what heat, the overall cooling will still be the same for the system

So if the CPU is more, and the chipset is less, the end effect is the same amount of heat being managed by the cooling design of the notebook

 

Just a small alteration.

No matter how many times you say it (and I'm not the only one to say it!), people still think a 35W mobile i3 processor might be put into a 11" notebook...

Put it this way... if they could fit an i3 processor to the M11x, they could also fit a 3.06Ghz T9900 (same TDP). In otherwords, not a chance in hell...

 

well put, I do no understand why this is so hard for people.....lower number does not mean lower power usage.....

 

will bioshock 2 be playable at medium settings smoothly ? you think??

 

I've mentioned this earlier in the thread but since its so long I don't expect everyone to have seen it.

The new Intel CPUs have the GPUs integrated onto the core, hence the higher TDP.

Power = Heat: If anything the overall power will be a little less due to the die shrink of both the CPU and GPU (The GPU is also getting a speed bump too so its power goes up some)

Hybrid graphics: With the Intel GPU switched off, it won't be consuming that power, thus lowering the TDP of the CPU. But both the dGPU and CPU will most likely be on the same cooling system so this is negligible.

Battery: I recall reading somewhere that this will be a Lithium Polymer battery, lighter and more durable than Lithium Ion batteries.

 

We have already established the M11x will NOT have the new arrandale cores....

Also about the battery, Li Po is actually physically less durable. They are often cased in a soft material. If this is the case for the M11x that would make more sense for why the battery is internal, it can be better protected. Li Po batteries FAR outperform Li Ion ones

 

scook9

Where did I ever say the M11x will have a Arrandale cpu? I'm simply discussing the TDP of processors that have been talked about in this thread and how it could work in this application.

Also the Lithium-Polymer cells are more durable. Lithium-Ion requires a metal casings that LiPo's do not. Although they do require something to prevent punctures to prevent damaging the cells, this can be accomplished with durable plastic instead. Also the cells are more stable and less prone to exploding.

 

Li Po is just as prone to exploding as Li Ion if treated improperly. Usually improper charging will cause this but in laptops will not be an issue

I learned all these battery goodings working on RC cars lol

 

I thought the i3 was the 18w variant of an i5? Guess not. I wont be buying an M11x but it does look like a solid choice for people who dont game heavily, 30 fps on games that are already out doesnt quite cut it for a "gaming" laptop imo. M11x seems to fill a different niche though, it does look very portable in the video's

 

Looks like a killer lappy, I think the cpu is gonna kill it tho.

 

LOL. I am shocked. I simply posted a date, I did not post the world was coming to an end.

 

The worlds coming to an End?

Will soon enough it is, But anyways thanks for the date of the release, now how bout telling them at dell to update the contest page with a new question.

 

I will get right on that after I come back from my daily walk on the lake.

 

Take your time, Don't fall in though, we will all be patiently waiting.

 

I walk on water all the time

 

**The Alienware M11X Discussion & Information Thread**

Guys... check that one...
new thread for alienware 11x ^^

 

LOL I was hoping for a new question today too for some clues hehe

 

I know, my F5 key is almost broken now.

 

sooo getting this baby! ill just tell my dad i need it and my M17x is to big to take to uni! what i want it for is gaming in my bed! warhammer online ftw ;p

 

hey darkhan

can you do the water to wine thing too ???:wink:

if so, when is the party

 

How does this 335m compare to a 8600m GT? How much faster is it?

 

lol it would be much faster.. than a 9600m gt i suppose? LoL

 

I think it scores about twice as high as the 8600m gt in benchmarks. With a 8600m gt you can't play cod4 on high settings, with the 335m you can play cod mw2 on high settings, if that aint 'KA-BOO-YA' then i don't know ^^

 

Well it's in between the 8700M/9700M and the 8800M/9800M, so it'll be much better than an 8600M.

Its hard specs place it slightly slower than an ATi mobility 3870.

 

You sure? I thought it would be better than the hd4650, since the new sony vaio F models use a 330 instead of the hd 4650's. So I expected the 335 to be even better.

 

The HD 3870 slightly outperforms the HD 4650/4670.

 

Ok there goes my entire theory that hd 4 series were better than the 3 series...why do they make stuff so complicated -_-'
Anyway good to hear the gt3 series are better, although I feel that a sony vaio z might actaully be more practical than this m11x for gaming. Since it has a gt330, and a stronger cpu. I know, its another segment, but 13 inch is still very portable, and might display more detail compared to 11.
I guess the cost will have the most importent impact on my decision between it and the m11x and the sony z (which will cost 1899).

I'm a bit more optimistic towards alienware pricing since they made quite a nice price drop yesterday on their belgian site.

 

The SONY is very nice but will cost a arm and a leg.
I looked into it but ran away when I seen the price.
Don't get me wrong the SONY looks awesome itself and will probably perform just as good as the M11x (maybe better?) but man it's expensive, not the the AW isn't.......

 

I think the sony will overheat, since its more deisgned for bussiness purposes, while the m11x is made for gaming, and wil therefore hopefully have better cooling.

 

if allienware had put a 13'' screen it would be perfect

 

I agree. The cooling systems on typical notebooks seem to assume that you will not be pegging the CPU and GPU at 100% for extended periods of time. A gaming notebook would (should) assume that you will, and therefore have a more robust cooling system.

 

I was interested in the sony z as well. but it comes down to size, cost and gpu for me. the smaller the better (I've used a 8.9" for a good amount of time), sony will be at least 2x the cost, and the 335 over the 330 will be much more powerful than the extra "5" indicates. (72 cores vs 48)

Now if only AW would confirm Ci5(plz,plz,plz), that would be the nail in the coffin for me.

 

There's no way a 330 will match up to a 4650. The 330 actually has far less shaders than the 335.

The 3870 is the top end card from the 3000 series, whereas the 4650 is a mid range card.

The mobility 4870 is significantly more powerful than a mobility 3870.

 

Wel the fact that the 330 is less powerfull than the 4650 is very dissapointing, I don't get why sony puts in a weaker card in the succesor of the fw series.
I guess this makes the m11x even more attractive, since it makes up for the smaller screen, with a lower price, better cooling, and a stronger gpu.

 

as i said, the only mistake by allienware is the 11.6 and not a 13'' screen. you sure can use the mini monster docked with a bigger display but for working in the bed, 11.6 is a big eye destroyer.

 

There was a post somewhere where a member here showed you can't have a 13" screen on the current M11x chassis. With that out of the way, an M13x chassis would be huge. Just look at the M15x. It would defeat the whole point of "extra" mobility.

Let's just enjoy what is available and stop hoping for what is currently not available.

The M11x will be a success I believe. And this based on all the buzz is creating all over the place, not just in this forum.

 

i have read somewhere that allienware build quality is below average, does anybody confirms that?

 

The previous alienware 51 laptops did have some built issues, like cracks for no reason, but the current alienwares have much stronger materials, especially the m17x.

 

The older Area-51 m15x did have build quality issues. All other systems (Area 51 m17x, 'All Powerful' M17X and M15X) are very solid.

 

I love mine - I could crack nuts with it or use it as a hammer to build a deck - it feels like its made of solid iron.

... and the warranty is god like.

 

going to be a tough choice choosing between this and the asus ul30JT

 

Im basically at the same place...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=452423

so far no responses

 

Really? I see no choice at all. Not even close. If the M11x delivers as promised (and with all the quoted numbers Dell will HAVE to) there will be zero comparison in performance. The M11x should crush the Asus.

That fast CPU is almost meaningless in games without a powerful GPU. 310m is weaksauce. If you buy it you will be posting in the 'how do I oc my video card threads within hours.'

 

exactly. the only competitor is sony vaio new z, but it has a 330gt wich is 48 shaders versus 72 of 335gt

 

What is the MSRP for the Vaio? Is it ~$1000?

I think it would have to be cheaper than the AW - everything else equal I trust AW more than Sony.

 

yeah, new vaio Z is MSRP $1800 starting point... not quite the same price league

 

Whats a m11x?

 

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