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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. BeastRider

    BeastRider Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry, I was talking about the SLG, so at stock vcore SLG can only go up to 2.0GHz without increasing vcore to 1.1? We need higher cas and the cas6 lock is getting in the way is this correct? So far there's no way of getting past the cas6 lock? So 2.0GHz is the best SLG can get as of now I assume? Thanks..
     
  2. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    hey davygt, have you made anymore progress on the gpu Vmod?
     
  3. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    You may need to increase the vcore if the CPU can't handle 333mhz FSB. Me and ajslay already tried using CL7... I couldn't boot so the only way to get to 2.4Ghz, if other factors such as vcore or FSB wall are not considered, is to use extremely good RAM that can clock to 1200mhz using CL6, which is very likely. 2Ghz looks like the best an SLG can do. There was a TME mod for it a few pages back but there were no results of it succeeding.

    I haven't done any vmod for the R1. You need to look for the voltage regulator for the GPU on your R1. I have a VBIOS with increased voltage for the R2 but I haven't got the time to recompile, test it and write a guide about flashing and blindflashing yet.
     
  4. BeastRider

    BeastRider Notebook Evangelist

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    Alright, plan on trying the 2.0GHz mod as it seems to be pretty simple as well as stable..Thanks..
     
  5. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Just a question, what is your VID at stock 1.3Ghz? You can check in Core Temp. I'm finding some correlation that lower VID CPUs can clock higher at the same voltage (.9v).
     
  6. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    oh sweet, how would i go about finding the regulator? just google it? i know someone with a computer engineering degree, il ask him.
     
  7. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I had trouble finding the GPU voltage regulator on my R1 but it should look something like a PLL but smaller, like this. In time, nibitor will be updated to support the GT335M so it would be possible to BIOS mod the GPU to run at .95v.
     
  8. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    ahh ok, i think the bios mod would be the way to go. i wonder how long it would take before the gt335 is supported.
     
  9. BeastRider

    BeastRider Notebook Evangelist

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    1.025v at stock 1.3GHz..Bios overclock off..
     
  10. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    If you send a GPU-z dump of the GT 335m then the nibitor team can add support....this is what had to be done for the GTX 280m on the M17x R1. For months you had to edit it as a 9800m GTX 1GB
     
  11. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    alright i tried that, it said "BIOS reading not supported on this device"
    is there any other way of doing it?
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Silly questions I am sure, but did you try to pull the bios while the GT 335m was in use? If you were using the IGP it may not work. Also have you tried pulling the vbios using nvflash?
     
  13. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I already sent the BIOS for R1 and R2 to Mavke over at Ice-Tea's BIOS request thread.
     
  14. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    lol i laughed, but not a bad question. i have my m11x on dedicated mode. :rolleyes:

    but no, i havent used nvflash, il look into that.

    EDIT: i keep getting an error with nvflash, not sure why.



    C:\Users\zakkhellfire>C:\Users\zakkhellfire\Downloads\nvflash_windows_5.95.0.1\n
    vflash.exe b m11x_Gt335m.rom

    NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.95)
     
  15. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I already exteacted the VBIOS from the M11x. You can guava a copy if you want. The problem is modding it as nibitor does not support it and I can't hex edit it. The closest I got is using the GTS 250m profile.
     
  16. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    yeah i tried nibitor, no luck there. i wonder if theres anything else we can do. my only other idea is to find a similar gpu thats based on the GT215 core.
     
  17. tassadar898

    tassadar898 Notebook Evangelist

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    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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  19. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    You guys are doing it wrong. You have to recompile the BIOS before flashing it and it is for the R2. The R1 and R2 VBIOS are different.
     
  20. tassadar898

    tassadar898 Notebook Evangelist

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    that something you know how to do davy :]
     
  21. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I'm putting the BIOS together now. Sorry ajslay, there's nothing that will be likely to work ATM for you as the R1 335 BIOS is different to the R2 335 BIOS Mavre modded.

    This needs a new thread.
     
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    tassadar898 Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks davy i cant wait to wake up and check it out off to bed for now
     
  23. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    damn.. that sucks bad. :eek:
    do you think that there's still hope for a Vmod on the R1?
     
  24. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Yes of course a Vmod is possible if you can find the GPU voltage regulator. I'll ask Mavre if he can also mod the R1 BIOS too.
     
  25. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    thanks man, il do some research and see what i can find.
     
  26. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    +1 on the R1 bios mod...
     
  27. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The 1.73Ghz is relatively easy with no soldering involved. It's just cutting one pin on the PLL. It does require good RAM however as it will run the memory at 1066mhz CL6, a challenge for 1066mhz and 1333mhz RAM alike- that's the only difficulty. Your warranty will be shot if you do this. The speed boost is all of 8.4%, meaning applications and games that are bottlenecked by the CPU will run 8.4% faster. BFBC2 runs 30% for a 30% increase in clockspeed so it does scale.
    Have no idea of the RAM- G.Skill put 2 different types of modules, one Hynix and one of their own and called it the same model.
     
  29. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    I have micron chips on mine. are the failure rates on these laptops high? should I wait a while before I do this mod to see if my system is 100% functional? (I just got this laptop last friday) is there any side effects of this mod?
     
  30. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Another type of module used on the same RAM model. That makes 3. The failure rate is only high if you botch the pin cutting. You should see if Overclock mode is stable. That can be an indicator to 1.73Ghz stability. What is your VID without Overclock mode? There are no side effects.
     
  31. gooface

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    so far its 100% stable after 1 hour of prime95 torture test. does the vid change when you overclock or is it the same on stock? because my current settings are below in my sig on the CPU-Z link. (.9v) so if you do this overclock and its not stable can I go back to 1.6ghz or am i stuck?
     
  32. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The VID does change with Overclock mode enabled to .9v. If it's unstable you can go back to 1.6Ghz but not 1.3Ghz. A better solution instead of cutting the pin is soldering a 10k resistor to pin 7 and 3.3v for 2Ghz.
     
  33. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    my vid is 0.975v at 1.73ghz heres a screenshot.
     

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  34. DrGoodvibes

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    ajslay(Edward Scissor hands), just to refresh that one neuron orbiting the space reserved for my brain, you have an SLG model M11xR1 SU7300?

    And by snipping one of the legs on the chip you got the true 1.7Ghz clock?

    What wPrime time do you get for 32MB? You have probably listed this a thousand times, but if you don't mind humoring me, that'd be great.

    Oh, and to run wPrime, you need to right click and run as administrator.
     
  35. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    yep, all you have to do is cut pin 2 on the pll chip. and yes i have the SLG. and il test wPrime, i havent checked yet.

    edit: ran WPrime and i got 49 seconds. not sure is thats good or not, i have 9 chome tabs open so yeah.
     
  36. DrGoodvibes

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    Yerpp. 49sec on 32MB using wPrime is pretty good.

    On a system with the CPU at idle, one does get the best results.

    No standard over-clocked M11xR1 (SU4100 or SU7300) could get below ~53sec.
    I can only mange ~55sec on my stock 1.6Ghz M11xR1 SU7300.

    I know when DavyGT was testing his 'all powerful' M11xR1 SU7300 after pinmod, using TS prime instead, and I know his left my standard M11xR1 in the weeds.

    Thanks for humoring me. :D

    For further benchmarking chat please use http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/459834-official-m11x-benchmark-thread.html
     
  37. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    i just tested it at idle, with only 29 processes running. and i got 48 seconds., il post in the benchmark thread after this.
    and no problem man.
     
  38. FroNinja

    FroNinja Newbie

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    I'm thinking of doing the pinmod in my m11x r1 but i've never done anything like that before and i have to do the hard mod because i have the SLG...

    I'm a little scared about doing it and the directions seem kinda difficult.. Maybe one of you guy could help me? :p

    Steam: FroNinja
     
  39. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The directions all boil down to:
    1. Enable Overclock mode in BIOS
    2. Solder a 10k Ohm resistor from pin 7 (FSC) to 3.3v
    3. Done

    Unless you have to do a volt mod or want to do the 1.73Ghz mod, then that's just cutting a pin, even easier.
     
  40. FroNinja

    FroNinja Newbie

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    I've never soldered anything is what scares me the most.

    And I have stock ram, do you think i should buy better?
     
  41. DrGoodvibes

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    I know the feeling.

    If you do take the soldering option, may I suggest, you look at the pin you need to solder and then have a go on some other pin legs on an old circuit board you have lying around. Just helps boost confidence before the real thing. That's what I'd do anyway. ;)

    RAM is not an issue at this juncture.
     
  42. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    You can try the 1.73Ghz mod to get you started. It's just cutting Pin 2 to enable 1.73Ghz/1066mhz RAM.
     
  43. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    im going to do what you just suggested when i do the 2ghz mod. iv only soldered once before and everyone could use a little practice.
     
  44. FroNinja

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    Hm.. I might do the 1.73 mod tomorrow.
    Is there more pictures on what a cut pin looks like?
     
  45. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Here is one I did for a friend:
    [​IMG]

    Note it's an ICS so look at pin 14.
     
  46. FroNinja

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    Thanks man you're awesome :D
     
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    I dont know if this is normal, but when not overclocked my VID is 1.013-.9v
    when overclocked its only at .9v.
     
  48. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    That is normal as the Overclock uses BSEL signals to set 266mhz. Result of that is the multiplier is locked to 6x and VID is locked to lowest, .9v.
     
  49. gooface

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    so which mod would you recommend me doing? (cut or solder?) because im worried about it being stable.
     
  50. some guy

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    there is only one way to find out. :)

    there is a volt mod for the CPU if you need it. the simpilest one is 1.1v in OC mode. it only requires you to cut one pin on a different chip on the mobo under the heatsink. we seem to run into issues more so with the RAM being locked at Cas6 tho. infact i dont think any of us here are actually using tue volt mod. we all become unstable from the RAM first.... know one knows how to fix this yet... :( its to my understanding we need a modded Bios to get our Cas setting changed.
     
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