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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Nice. Love the ThrottleStop, got my QX9300 to 4.33 with it :D
     
  2. some guy

    some guy Modding Addict

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    There is a pic in my sig

    Pin2 is to the right of pin1 (the one with the white triangle printed on the PCB)
     
  3. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    ^Here's some backup some_guy.
    [​IMG]

    There is a guide for the R2 in my sig. If you substitute the PLL for the R1 PLL definition file, it will work.
     
  4. some guy

    some guy Modding Addict

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    Thanks Davy

    Im on my droid 90% of the time i post. So i couldnt easly edit a pic like that right now.

    Working on the mini hardmod guide. hopfully it will help with most questions like this.
     
  5. HTWingNut

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  6. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Don't forget the catch about the RAM though- memory is overclocked above what is achieved by R2 SetPLL and R1 TME, running at 1066mhz instead of under 1050mhz most users seem to be achieving.

    You do know the SLG is unprogrammable right? This has been proven by nando4, disproven by moral_hazard and proven again by trial by hdad.
     
  7. some guy

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    Its pretty easy and id say 75% of R1 owners should be able to have success with this mod on the stock RAM & vcore.

    Just use a hobby knife and slowly scratch away till you get thru the pin. It takes more time this way but you can easly rejoin the pin if you ever need to later.
     
  8. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Thanks guys, I'd give rep but I gotta wait 24 hrs. I have 1333MHz RAM in there, except SPD table in CPU-Z for 533MHz says CL7. Hmm, we'll have to see how it works out.

    Hopefully 1.73GHz will be ok on stock vcore.
     
  9. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I'll worry more about the the RAM then the vcore as vcore can handle a 133mhz increase. Memory on the other hand is a concern as 1333mhz RAM is rated to run at 1333mhz with CL8 or CL9 timings. With the R1, it's CL6 or nothing which means 1333mhz isn't possible. Same goes for 1066mhz RAM rated with higher then CL6 timings. The memory is being overclocked here and it's the reason why the SLG never reached 2.4Ghz- 1200mhz RAM with CL6 timings is just too hard. Hopefully those new Kingston PnP HyperX kits make a difference but I wouldn't count on it.
     
  10. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Man, hearing about the limitations of the ram makes me want to jump in and do this mod to see my HyperX shine :(

    I has run 1333 cas 6 perfectly stable!
     
  11. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    Ok.....
    I browse through most of the 75-76 pages of info on modding a m11xr1. I went with the pll cut pin 14 method. TME is now disabled.
    I am a newb at some of this, so I apologize if my questions have already been answered. I'm in the comprehension phase trying to learn what I can.

    2 questions, 1 of which will probably answer the other.

    When I use setpll, I've been trying anywhere from 270-300 range (i.e. setpll alienware-m11xr1 280). About 50% of the time, the laptop will lockup and need a hard reset. I'm assuming this is because of the stock ram in the machine? Which leads me to the second question. I've seen 3-4 different types of ram that people are suggesting for multiple variations of mod's. For my particular setup, what would be the best ram to buy? I would like to max my ram out a 8GB but is there a benefit of only having 4GB for performance sake?

    Also, I believe this information is needed for deciding the best ram.
    CPUZ: Memory
    FSB :DRAM 2:3
    6:6:6:15


    I hope I've provided enough info to hopefully help someone answer my questions that have been confusing. Thank you in advance.
     
  12. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Have you set OC mode in the bios? If so and it's freezing in the 270-300 range, then ensure the GT335 is the active GPU and try a ramped OC instead. Ie:

    Code:
    setPLL Alienware-m11xR1 275.284.293.302.311.320.329.338.347
     
  13. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    Thank you very much! worked like a charm, and have tested 4 times already without issue!!

    At this point because I am able to achieve the 2.0 overclock, is there a need for a "better" ram?
     
  14. HTWingNut

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    Hmm, now I'm leary about doing the mod on my SLG. I don't want to do it only to have to invest $80 in 4GB of HyperX that isn't even guaranteed to run at CL6.

    I have 8GB G.Skill in there with CL9 @ 1333Mhz. I can guarantee it won't run at CL6 even at 1066MHz, 2GB sticks I might have a chance, but not 4GB unless I got really really lucky. Too bad there's no way to test it ahead of time.
     
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    Another satisfied m11xR1 user :D

    Try booting up with only 1 core enabled (not sure if you can set only 1 core in your bios, if not then use msconfig) and seeing if you can OC further. If yes, then you've hit a CPU OC wall requiring more voltage to go further via a voltage regulator mod &. If can't overclock further with only 1 core active then you've hit a RAM OC wall requiring better RAM, eg: the CL5 hyperX noted here to OC further.
     
  16. some guy

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    I have 2x4gb GSkill dimms woring fine @ 1000mhz Cas6. but, im in OC mode with the 333mhz mod. so my Ratio is easier on the RAM (3:2) vs nonOC mode (1:2).

    You could also try one dimm only that will take stress off the chipset and you could choose the best dimm to use. you would be @ 4gb ether way so why not try?
     
  17. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    you have the ICS pll right?
     
  18. HTWingNut

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    Good idea. Maybe give that a shot.
     
  19. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    Correct, I do have the ICS chip, not the SLG
     
  20. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    oohh ok. your lucky lol. are you able to get to 2.1ghz?
     
  21. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    I have the setpll stepped up to 347 currently, and according to cpuz it's running at 2083mhz, so yeah, pretty close to 2.1.
     
  22. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    wow thats impressive. have you done any benchmarks yet? like 3dm06?
     
  23. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    I do believe it was 6900ish when I ran it just a little while ago, let me re-run and give you the exact.
     
  24. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    alright cool, but only 6900 at 2.1ghz? thats pretty odd. im at 1.73ghz and get well above 7k. with my gpu highly overclocked i can get just over 8k with post processing turned off.
     
  25. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    I'm grey in the area of the GPU. I have the performance mode turned on, and OC turned on in the BIOS.... I'm sure there is a area I'm unaware.

    Advice for the GPU or is this a hardmod as well?
     
  26. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    the gpu is a software overclock, you can use nvidia inspector or nvidia system tools, EVGA precision, or MSI afterburner. all work fine. but you probably wanna use OCCT for stability testing after you increase the gpu clocks a bit.
     
  27. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    3dMark 6980
     
  28. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    hmm. im pretty sure its a gpu bottleneck now. overclocking the gpu would help achieve much higher numbers.
     
  29. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    Alright, I'll try the Nvidia Inspector out. Increments of 20 I'll try, we'll see how it works. Mind if I PM you if I have questions that aren't relevant to the general viewer of the forum?
     
  30. tscaf

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    Hmm...interesting. CPUZ by default is what we are basing most clock speeds from. However, just noticed that the 3dmark summary page (not the web results) under the "system" category, it says CPU: Genuine Intel CPU U7300 @ 1.30 GHz @ 2257MHz.

    Where as CPUZ says 2083MHz

    Why the difference? And I can only assume CPUZ is more precise.
     
  31. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    you can pm me. and once you get past 550 on the core clock, you wanna take it down to 5-7mhz increments .
     
  32. ron g

    ron g Newbie

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    I was searching for tools to OC the GT335M in my M11x and I stumbled upon this thread. Here are the results of my successful SLG mod to a stock M11x. Thanks to everyone for the info.
     

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    jai554 Notebook Consultant

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    nice!!
    what type of ram do you have?? +rep
     
  34. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    awesome, i dont see a 10k resister anywhere? and your not connected to pin 55?
     
  35. gecko40

    gecko40 Notebook Guru

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    when i try to do the setpll my laptop just freezes :(
     
  36. some guy

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    Awesome job ron g!

    We have our 2nd 2.0ghz SLG owner! :)

    I love how you used the other point for power. i was too scared to try that because i dont know enough about PLLs yet. was afraid of pumping too much too the PLL.
     
  37. HTWingNut

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    No resistor? What gauge wire is that? I don't know if I've found shielded wire that small.
     
  38. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I circled the resistor

    [​IMG]
     
  39. hdad2

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    Nice work ron g. Did successful mod require any voltage tweak or new memory?

    That's the only thing that keeps me from trying...I'm worried that it wont be stable or I'll need new memory or whatever. I just want it to work.
     
  40. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    @ ron g.
    could you maybe give some info on what soldering iron you used?
     
  41. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    probably used a soldering station with a micro fine tip and high temps ;) + a camera....
     
  42. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    not sure about that =P when i finish the mod on my R1 im going to be using a magnifying glass, flashlight, and a very tiny soldering iron and tip.
     
  43. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    you want a large(high wattage/hot) iron with as small as a tip as you can buy/make...


    the ones I use at school go down to .5mm at the tip IRRC
     
  44. leo6love

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    finally done :D, this is my result
    [​IMG]

    in addition, Im using stock RAMs which are ..
    [​IMG]
     
  45. gooface

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    this is getting more tempting every day..
     
  46. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    so i can solder the 10k resister to whats in the picture? (arrow pointing to it)
     

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  47. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    you would probably melt the solder on both sides+the solder on the other part that is close to it... ;)
     
  48. cookinwitdiesel

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    Those small surface mount resistors are a pain to work with.....especially if soldering by hand. The end result though looks exceptionally neat! My hat is off to you lol
     
  49. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    once i get a small enough solder tip this mod is considered done for me.
    been wanting to do this for months. this just makes it easier.
     
  50. hdad2

    hdad2 Notebook Consultant

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    leo6love,

    So this is a SLG mod done by soldering pin 7 to 3.3V? Stock ram and no other mod was necessary? Is it stable so far as you can tell? Thanks
     
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