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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. some guy

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    Hey thanks. got to give the SLG guys some hope! ;)

    But 99% of the credit should go to DavyGT and nando4. they did all the hard work. im just a fast learning tester/modder. :) without these guys my R1 would be @ 1.6ghz :(
     
  2. HTWingNut

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    I'm also interested, and I know we talked about it before. :D Just want 2.0GHz. I don't have the tools or skills or patience to do stuff like this, and $50 + s/h sounds fair to me!

    You can use my rep here as collateral. :D I'll guarantee the item is in good working condition before I ship it and understand accidents happen.
     
  3. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Now if you can get those switches easily accessible on the side of the laptop....! lol
     
  4. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Thanks. Let's move onto the next mod, 9k is waiting for R1. See if we can hit 9k before an R3 lol.
    I remember now, you're the resident goldfish. Nice to see you evolved into a warthog. :D
     
  5. some guy

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    Sounds good. Maybe we can work this out...

    just so you know tho. your RAM may not like 2.0Ghz. i have RAM here to stability test yours with, but it may not " work" with out "good" RAM. i can ship it back with a factory 1Gb Dimm if your RAM doesnt work @ 2.0Ghz so you know i didnt fry your laptop. but you would have to mail the Dimm back to me. :)

    Totally possible


    You know im game. :)
     
  6. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The 2Ghz mod has a higher sucess rate then the 1.73Ghz mod though as RAM is running slower (1000mhz [333*3] instead of 1066mhz [266*4]). The focus should shift to possible vcore issues as some CPUs won't do more then 1.8Ghz, particularly high VID CPUs, in my theory anyway.

    You'll need to cut the case and fit it on the left side.

    I want to try looking for the GPU voltage regulator again. Can you take very high resolution photos of the board?

    Remember this?
     
  7. some guy

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    Yea ill do the 1.1VID mod if needed.

    I was thinkin the right side. there is a 3/4" gap on that side.

    Thats the best i can do. i only have my DroidX to take pics with. the ones i did take i actually used a magnifing glass to make them more clear. lol
     
  8. DavyGT

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    You don't have to use 1.1v, that's just for pin cutters/conductive pen users. If you can solder, you can fine control voltage to .125v steps by messing with the VID pins.

    Can you take a photo of the CPU heatsink area of the board then please?
     
  9. some guy

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    Only prob i ran into with the VID mods was pulling with a resistor did nothing. only cutting the pin did. With that said the table gets jacked up if you were to ever go out side of OC mode making the VID jump alover. (exmp non ocmode speed step goes up to 1.075v instead of 0.875v with pin 4 cut but the stock 0.975v is unaffected) with that in mind the 1.1v is the easiest and will more than likely be the best for the avg person that needs the bump. when i ran with 1.1v my temps wnet up about 4c if i remember correctly. so for the R1 nothing it couldnt handle.



    I have a pic in my phone. let me see if i can uplaod it around noon.
     
  10. some guy

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    not great but the best i got for now: (if you let me know a personal email i can send you the full size (8mp) pics

    heatsink underside

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    heatsink top side

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    the CPU voltage controller.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. HTWingNut

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    You guys are crazy. But I love it. I used to fiddle around with this kind of stuff, but just don't have time any more. :(

    One question though. Since I cut the Pin 2 would I still be able to do the 2.0GHz mod? Because now fsb is at 1066MHz.
     
  12. some guy

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    yea, as long as there is a tiny piece to solder to its no big deal just harder to attach a wire.

    for the 2.0ghz pin 2 isn't even needed. pin 2 is only used for 166, 200, 300 & 400mhz
     
  13. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The 2Ghz mod is ok with the 1.73Ghz mod as it modifies a separate pin and the pin you cut needs to be disabled anyway. Its safer then just modding for 2Ghz as it's impossible to activate 400mhz FSB if the BIOS is reset avoiding an unbootable brick.
     
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    Good to know.

    Wow, my replacement keyboard just showed up. That was fast. Now time for some GPU flashing and OC! :D
     
  15. deathpulse

    deathpulse Notebook Enthusiast

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    So - should I do the 1.73 pin cut AND the 2.0 resister mod together? or just the 2.0 resister mod? I get my laptop in a week and I can't wait!!!

    *wringing hands together* MUAHAHAA!!!
     
  16. some guy

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    doing so may allow you to boot in both OC an non-OC modes (assuming your stable).

    other than that i cant see any bad side affects from doing both at the same time.
     
  17. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    omg, i didnt know that. so basicly its possible to boot with OC-mode off with both the mods. compaired to having the 2ghz mod alone, which results in a non-boot?
     
  18. some guy

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    From my memory of the data sheet, so dont quote me.

    If you add voltage to pin 7 and cut pin 2 your base clock should be 333mhz.

    So in oc mode 2.0ghz cpu/1000mhz ram OR 2.16ghz cpu/1333mhz ram in non oc mode.
     
  19. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    ah ok. i understand. well, my samsung ram is 1333mhz ram. could there be a chance i could be stable at 2.16ghz? with discrete graphics only, so the GMA isnt an issue.
     
  20. DavyGT

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    No, 1333mhz is fast for CAS6.
     
  21. some guy

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    Sure its possible, but you would be the first to try that speed sucsessfully.

    Fyi: your RAM runs Cas6 no matter what so it may be unstable.
     
  22. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    oh ok, i was just wondering. that would have been awesome. :p
     
  23. gecko40

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    but i tried it to the highest which is 357 and it still freezes :/
     
  24. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    This solved my issue, which of course may not solve yours, but this is what my stepping up looks like

    C:\setpll\setPLL.bat Alienware-m11xR1 275.284.293.302.311.320.329.338.347
     
  25. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    I would like to upgrade the ram in my machine from 4 to 8. Performance is my main goal. Based on the specs in my signature, and my current ram specs of the stock 6-6-6-15. What would be best? I don't think I'll do any sort of voltage mod in the future, so I'm pretty much working with how my system currently sits.

    My confusion is this. Lower CAS latency, but lower speed, OR higher CAS, but faster speed?

    Trying to grasp how ram works :/

    The two I have it narrowed down to:
    G.Skill
    DDR3 1066
    Cas:7
    7-7-7-20

    or

    G.Skill
    DDR3 1333
    Cas:9
    9-9-9-24

    That's what I've narrowed it down to. I've seen a lot of people either go with Samsung or G.Skill. I am very open to opinions on what would perform best.

    Thanks in advance for any help
     
  26. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    They're both going to perform similarly as neither will run with any other latency then CL6. It's down to the quality of the module for this so ratings aren't helpful as you could very well be buying the same module flashed to run at higher speeds and latency.
     
  27. HTWingNut

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    Right, the G.Skill 1333 will run at CAS7 when running at 1066 as well, only the 1066 RAM isn't validated to work at 1333.

    But there's no way to know for certain if either will work at CAS6 at 1066, but should be fine at 1000. I had 8GB G.Skill (2x4GB) 1333MHz CAS9 but wouldn't boot at CAS6 1066, so had to use the default Samsung 2x2GB that came with my M11x which worked like a charm. I'd like to have 8GB, but gotta sell my existing G.Skill first, then buy either Samsung 8GB or Kingston HyperX.
     
  28. some guy

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    I have the GSkill. just bought cuz the hyperX sucked and i had good OCing results with some GSkill on my 1201n.

    A general rule is the higher density Dimms dont OC as well as lower density ones. but to run @ 2.0ghz you only need 1000mhz Cas6 stable. which should work on most 1066mhz cas7 RAM IMO.
     
  29. tscaf

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    Ah, I see. The 1066 is $20 cheaper and if CL6 is the best, I can't see any reason to purchase the 1333 modules.

    Cool, appreciate the help!
     
  30. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    im getting my machine ready for modding tomorrow, already have the back cover off and all the screws out. so after i get back from radio shack i can just get started. had to sand down my soldering tip tho, it was slightly too big.
     
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    Good luck.

    Hopefully we can have another member of the 2.0ghz club. ;)
     
  32. gecko40

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    WOW!! IT SOLVED MINE TOO! THANK YOU SIR! :D
     
  33. blitzgash

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    Good luck, ajslay!

    I attempted the 2Ghz mod first and failed at it. Tried for a good 2 days. (not straight, on and off of course.) Before just giving up and doing the 1.7ghz mod.

    I could get the solder on the end pin, but not on the pin 7. My flaw was not using flux. I need some practice with it before just going at it. (I have no experience with flux.. Last time I used it was on an xbox 360 motherboard and let's just say it never worked again. :\)
     
  34. DavyGT

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    If you got the spare cash, you could try the new HyperX PnP RAM with a 2.4Ghz mod. :D

    Did you at least clean the pins with isopropyl alcohol before soldering?
     
  35. blitzgash

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    Nope. I didn't even know you were suppose to. I'm still learning. Knowledge is power. Prolly not a good think but I'm very daring. (I only had my laptop for a week or so before attempting the mod) :)
     
  36. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    when i get my next paycheck i would totally try 2.4ghz =P

    also, here is the list of things i should need for the mod, correct me if im wrong.

    soldering iron
    solder
    flashlight
    screw driver
    magnifying glass
    rubbing alcohol
    a Sh%$# load of patients
    10k resister

    just wanna make sure im not missing anything guys.

    thanks for the encouragement everyone. if this works out, and theres confirmed results of the new Hyper Pnp ram being more overclockable, id try for 2.4ghz
    what about the 2.16ghz mod? thats with my pin 2 1.73ghz mod?
     
  37. gecko40

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    i cant get above 320 :/
     
  38. DavyGT

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    You could do with a pair of third hands and some_guy's wire if the resistor leg is too large. Let's see how well you go without flux.

    Forget the 2.16Ghz mod, it's harder on the RAM then the 2.4Ghz option as it will be running at 1333mhz instead of 1200mhz.

    Try removing one stick of RAM and see if you can clock further. If you can't, then swap sticks.
     
  39. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    i think i have a stand for the magnifying glass, but i'm unsure what flux is lol.
    also some guy's wire is really thin, not sure where i would get something that small.
     
  40. i has m11x

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    Patients? Are you a doctor? :p
     
  41. gooface

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    If that Kingston stuff works at low latencies id totally buy it, but ill wait for someone else to try it first.
     
  42. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    same here. if its stable at 1200mhz, id do the 2.4ghz mod in a heardbeat.
    but then theres the intel GMA issue i think?
     
  43. DavyGT

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    If everyone thought like that, nothing would be done. Oh wait. :D :( :eek: Count the pages between that and me.

    SetIGP can lower GMA clocks. I can make a BIOS with low GMA bootup clocks if needed. Just need a donor GMA VBIOS.
     
  44. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    awesome, it needs to be the GMA 4500mhd right? i have 2 notebooks at my house that have that gpu.
    what about discrete mode? will the GMA still be a problem?
     
  45. DavyGT

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    It needs to have lower then M11x clocks. GPUZ said 475mhz on my GMA.
     
  46. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    oh alright. hmm... the gma on mine says 640mhz
     
  47. gooface

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    Well I would jump right on it, but well I don't have a job atm, so not a lot of money to go around... sadly. that and I need the guts to start this mod. but I havent even owned mine for a month yet..
     
  48. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    that sucks dude, the economy where i live sucks pretty bad, new jobs are rare and prices just keep going up.
    (iowa)

    iv only had mine since February 4th
     
  49. DavyGT

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    Don't worry about the GMA or 2.4Ghz mod for now, just read up on the 1.1v VID mod incase you need it tomorrow. Also, you will need to reconnect pin 2 to enable 400mhz.

    I was kidding. EDIT: Sorry, I see you in economic stress. I didn't mean to be offensive. I thought you were in Western Australia.
    You could try the low risk 1.73Ghz mod if you want something now. It helps later as it will disable the 400mhz with OC mode off with the 2Ghz mod.
     
  50. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    il look into the 1.1v VID mod. and im not so sure i could reconnect pin 2, i basicly ripped the whole pin out.
     
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