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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah, no biggie, don't worry about it :)

    well I think I'll give it a go here pretty soon, I bought this laptop the first week of last month, I'm just afraid because I ran a ATItool test on it and it had artifacts without an overclock on the GPU, not a lot but it had them.

    also on Portal 2 I had artifacts as well. no other game does this though... So Im wondering if it means something is wrong with my GPU.
     
  2. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    That's concerning. Forget the 1.73Ghz mod for now, while you have warranty. Use OCCT and test for stability and check the temperatures. You won't get very far without a GPU overclock anyway.
     
  3. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    if occt returns artifacts and temps are fine, id ask for a replacement. then do the mod after you do stability testing on the new one.
     
  4. gooface

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    what are acceptable temps on this test with this laptop? What test/settings should I run? I have never used this software before. thanks!

    EDIT: well I ran both GPU tests, the first one returned with no errors at stock but with my overclock on the GPU/Shaders i had instant errorss (525/1350/790)
    on the GPU: Memtest I am receiving errors with stock clocks on the GPU (13 errors after pass 10) the temps didnt go above 50C either.

    also I noticed something before with my GPU, I cant overclock the VRAM at all, otherwise I get tons of artifacts on all my testing that I ran before.(pre-OCCT)

    drivers are: 270.61
     
  5. gecko40

    gecko40 Notebook Guru

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    i tried playing games after i OC'ed my processor and after a few minutes of playing the game it doesn't respond and freezes:/
     
  6. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    You're unstable. Clock down and use IntelBurnTest to check stability with 20 runs.
     
  7. some guy

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    Wow. 3 more pages while i was asleep.

    Alink to this magic RAM plz Davy...

    The economy sux bad over here in OH too. i was laidoff for a yr but now im back at my engineering job and i still have my part time job from when i was laidoff. Im very lucky but i hate working soo much...
     
  8. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Here you go.

    What's going on in the US? Isn't there a social security agency to look after the unemployed? :(
     
  9. some guy

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    Thanks. im reading the legit reviews one now.

    We have unemployment but the system in general is pretty stupid (like a lot of things in in the US are backwards)
     
  10. some guy

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    Bought the 2x2gb 1600mhz kit.

    Only one in stock and prob the best bet being lower density and all.

    Who knows if it will even boot? i read the review but im still lost on what kind of magic is going on with these. is it something only SB cpus can use? i really dont care as long as it works @ 1200mhz/Cas6.

    Seeing the bump in general performance with that kit in the review is amazing!
     
  11. gecko40

    gecko40 Notebook Guru

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    is there anyway to make it stable? :confused:
     
  12. some guy

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    There is a easy VID mod for 1.1v on the CPU.
     
  13. HTWingNut

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    There's only limited amount of time the gov't will pay for unemployment, and even then unemployment pay is quite low, capped at about $300/wk at least here in Michigan. I've been unemployed since November 2008, but I have a whole different history behind my unemployment, and paid through other means.
     
  14. gecko40

    gecko40 Notebook Guru

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    i just noticed that my processor sadly cant go up above 1.9Ghz or else it becomes unstable :/ Im currently using 316 setpll. Is there anyway to make it stable on 1.9Ghz?
     
  15. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Thanks for sharing that information.

    How far can you go with Overclock mode off?
     
  16. some guy

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    again, there is the VID mod for 1.1v on the CPU.

    assuming your RAM is ok. have you tried running one stick at a time to rule out RAM stability?
     
  17. some guy

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    just running some logic here.

    the Jedec standard is 133mhz per every 1 Cas timing bump according to the guy i spoke with at Kingston.

    i did some math and it totally makes sense (to me anyway, i could be totally wrong).

    399mhz =Cas3
    532mhz =Cas4
    666mhz =Cas5
    798mhz =Cas6

    etc...

    i looked at one of the screen shots of CPU-z a guy posted with some of the PNP dimms and it seems they jump every 169mhz.

    so if im correct at our Cas6 we could go up to 1014mhz with out being "OCed on the RAM". so with this RAM at 2.4ghz we would be OCing basically the next jump at 1183mhz (1200mhz?) which is normally designed for Cas7... it may work? ? ?

    also read some funky stuff is going on with the RAM. from what i gather ppl have proven it runs outside of Intel's spec on SB CPUs simply by just plugging it in. does this mean it takes control of the ratio and ignores the mobos default?

    im not assuming it will work in the same manner with the C2D chipset (it is however totally backward compatible to reg DDR3 systems according to LR) just wondering if it did what would happen, would it change the ratio?

    edit:

    just did a calc off the rated spec and it would seem to be 177.7mhz per jump? that would put us @ 1066mhz on Cas6 and 1244mhz on Cas 7 even better!!!

    soooo.... does that mean we would be OCing 133mhz over the Cas6 table? or does it mean 44mhz under the max Cas6 table? if its the 2nd one this may be the magic RAM we have been waiting for. :)


    sorry for rambling again but just trying to understand how all this stuff works.
    i cant wait for it to get here.
     
  18. gecko40

    gecko40 Notebook Guru

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    I tested it without overclock and it could go the highest 1.74Ghz. 268Mhz x 6.5 Multiplier
     
  19. some guy

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    sorry but there is some inconsitancy

    are you only stable at 1.74ghz ether way?

    its hard to tell weather your hitting a RAM or CPU wall un less you find out what is stable in both modes.

    if you getting basically the same CPU OC in both modes you need to raise you CPU vcore.

    if your getting CPU speeds with a 20-30% difference you need new RAM to keep up with your CPU
     
  20. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    ok guys im heading to radio shack after dinner, iv been practicing soldering all day. id say im actually pretty good at it.

    il post back with my results.
     
  21. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    ok.... so iv failed... not once.. but 6 times. those pins are TOO TINY.
    i managed to get everything attached but then i got an ethernet controller error. i went at it for 10 hours today, i think im stuck at 1.73.. :(
     
  22. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    That's unfortunate. You can still try the 1.8Ghz mod (300x6).
     
  23. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    how do you do the 1.8ghz mod? i had no idea there was one =P
     
  24. DrGoodvibes

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    Ah yes, nobody expects the 1.8Ghz mod.

    Now waiting for DavyGT and friends to get in a bus, travel across town, run into the building, access a terminal, login and reply...

    Yes, the 1.8Ghz mod is.....
     
  25. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    if it involves soldering im not sure i can do it, those pins are extremely small. if they were doubled in size, and i had a better soldering iron, i could do it.
     
  26. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The 1.8Ghz mod is connecting pins 2, 7 and 20 to 3.3v through 10k resistors for 300mhz FSB. It's not mentioned as it's harder to do then the 2Ghz mod and is slower.

    EDIT: There appears to be a connection from pin 20 to a resistor. Use that as an easy solder point. Pin 2 can be reconnected with solder or conductive ink and pin 7 may have a solder point. I can't see it clearly in the photos I seen so far though. Not an easy job but may be the only speed increase you can have as the 1.95Ghz mod requires 1333mhz RAM running at CL6.

    Maybe you can request the datasheet for the ethernet controller (Atheros 8132?) and we can vmod that...
     
  27. HTWingNut

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    ajslay, don't fret. This is why I never bothered. I had an issue with a mod in the past that I screwed up. Thankfully was able to recover. Those pins are WAY too small. Unless you have perfect equipment and the steady hands, it's damn near impossible.
     
  28. some guy

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    all i have to say is ive felt the way you do.. proof:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-m11x-r1-slg-hardmod-only-20.html#post7093932

    such a growing process this was...

    after i got a smaller iron things were much better as you see what i went back and did even after i was already 2.0ghz stable. :eek: thats how much confidence this new soldering iron game me! :)
     
  29. tscaf

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    Is it possible to have 8GB of RAM with the CAS timing of 6? From what I've been seeing, you can really only get that if you have 4GB.

    So ideally if you wanted more ram for "performance" you sacrifice the timing. From what I gather that is.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  30. some guy

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    my current RAM is running Cas6 with the 2.0ghz mod.

    with the R1 the mobo only runs Cas6 no matter what so you don't really have a choice.
     
  31. HTWingNut

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    I thought with 2.0GHz mod it ran at a slower clock though so much more likely to work?
     
  32. some guy

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    the clock runs slower in OC mode than Non OC mode yes which helps with RAM stability, but the Cas remains at 6 no matter what which is why we are having such a hard time at getting to 2.4Ghz. Ram that runs @ 1200mhz Cas 6 is hard to come by.

    hopefully the new PNP stuff from Kingston works out. we will see in a few days.

    for reference:

    oc mode = 2:3 ratio of base clock

    no OC mode is 1:2 ratio of base clock
     
  33. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    im sure if i get a small enough soldering iron, i might be able to do it. but i might just pay an expert like $50 to do it. i dont think i have the proper setup and workstation either.
     
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    That's where I'm at.
     
  35. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    i wonder if one of my local computer shops could do the mod for me. if i gave them pictures and all the info on it.

    edit: ok guys, im going to give it another try tomorrow. i'm going to use a copper soldering tip that i hand made, it has a very very sharp tip that i made with a pair of sidecutters. and i got some new solder. and i have some extremely small and thin enclosed wire i found. i think i could finish this.
     
  36. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    when my hinges eventually break il just fix them with some good epoxy. instead of waiting for a repair guy to come.
     
  39. HTWingNut

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    I considered that until they actually changed the design and it looks quite robust. I'd rather get a solid replacement fix, than an epoxy job, unless they just replaced with the same failed hinge design.

    My biggest issue is I think I got a good screen, and hate to end up with a crappy one. I guess I'll just complain and replace screens until I get a satisfactory one.
     
  40. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    thats true, i had no idea the new design looked any better.
    if mine break il just have dell come install the new hinge, and epoxy the new hinge if that ever breaks.
     
  41. some guy

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    I have a good screen too. i will just epoxy mine before it even breaks... soon probably.
     
  42. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    halp....


    I did the 2ghz mod from the get-go, solderd micro wire to pin 7/10k/3/3v as per this pic


    I tried to test it out without everything put back together, but I get fan/powerLED/nothing else.... is there an "idiot switch" hidden anywhere? or will my system just not boot at 2ghz?
     
  43. User Retired 2

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    Remove or swap RAM in case they have little tolerance, or try the 1.1V voltage regulator mod in case your CPU needs it.
     
  44. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    my memory should be good for cas5@1066...


    were is the cpu V regulator?



    EDIT: I'll add that when I remove the memory I get post codes...
     
  45. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    anyone???????? I see nothing that comes close to the ##s in the spec sheet...



    EDIT2: found it(under the GPU HS)... now I need to flash my memory to a different timings, it will not boot with the 2ghz/vmod... :(

    any recommendations?
     
  46. DavyGT

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    You can't flash the memory as it won't boot with CL7 timings and up. How did the 1.1v VID mod go?
     
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    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    spent more time looking for the damn thing than it took to jump the 2 pins... :mad:


    the memory "should" be cas5 at 1066 and cas6 at 1333... :confused:

    Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Laptop Memory Model KHX1066C5S3K2/4GX


    EDIT: I'll add that dell should be getting a nasty phone call because the CPU/GPU/NB plastic protector things were on the die itself... :mad:

    also, will the stock 1gb sticks have any chance at getting me to 2ghz? if not, then what do I need to buy... :(
     
  48. some guy

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    for the VID mod to 1.1vcore you just need to cut VID4 (PIN 32)on the vreg under the Heatsink.

    2011-05-03_18-46-38_58.jpg
     
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    pretty sure thats wrong...

    default OC mode is 0.90v (only VID5 & VID4 are on).

    if you were to turn on VID3 in this config you would go down to 0.80v

    if you look at the table on page 13 of the data sheet you will see what i mean. for 1.1vcore only PIN5 needs to be on. in OC mode only PINS4&5 are on. so this is why you need to CUT PIN4.

    i tried 3 times to pull with different resistors and it didn't work the pin has to be cut for it to work.


    if im wrong someone plz correct me but i tested this and had the results i just mentioned.
     
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