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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. bus_dr1v3r

    bus_dr1v3r Notebook Consultant

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    So I was peeking into the strings file of the R1 bios and found the below entries. Does this mean there may be hope for our memory bottleneck?

    Edit : There is also a string in there for Frequency Ratio.
     

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  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what kind of bios is it? AMI?

    You could go over to http://bios-mods.com/ and ask for them to mod it for you (to add those extra options).
     
  3. bus_dr1v3r

    bus_dr1v3r Notebook Consultant

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    Its a phoenix bios and I've got a thread up already, here is the link. Hopefully we can make something interesting happen.
     
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    I sent him a pm. I hope he isn't against private messages. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
  6. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Also this could be useful for you:
    https://rs6l32.rapidshare.com/#!download|6l3|270283002|Phoenix.BIOS.Editor.Pro.v2.2.1.3.rar|6420|R~63964BF32B98BF19C58DABDA79F26BC6|0|0

    Let me know if that version of PBE works for you, because it worked on the M17x R1.
     
  7. Kingerno

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    Looks like there is an option to set the multiplier.... Hopefully he can unlock it
     
  8. bus_dr1v3r

    bus_dr1v3r Notebook Consultant

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    From what he said there was nothing that I mentioned that would lead to more overclocking :( . Unless I read something wrong.
     
  9. Kingerno

    Kingerno Notebook Enthusiast

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    I thinky you read somrthing wrong... He said those menus are empty and he needs to link the options.. Im curious about the multiplier and mem freq
     
  10. bus_dr1v3r

    bus_dr1v3r Notebook Consultant

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    No, I'm referring to what kizwan said in a private message. I'm still going to try the bios being put together on bios-mods forums. I still have hope that we can find something to further overclock this system.
     
  11. deadboy90

    deadboy90 Notebook Evangelist

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    hey i was thinking about doing a pinmod, i opened up my machine, found the ICS pll and located the correct pin to cut (Dam thats small!) But then i was looking over what to do after i cut it and cant make heads or tails of setpll, I know its a command line program but i cant figure out exactly what to type into it to set my clock speeds, any help would be appreciated
     
  12. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Create a shortcut to setpll.bat and enter Properties. In the target box add "alienware-m11xr1 xxx" after the directory, where xxx is your clockspeed. Double click shortcut to activate.
     
  13. deadboy90

    deadboy90 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok its saying "Alienware-m11xR1 specified in the target box is not valid" what did i do wrong? also the "XXX" part, if i wanted, say, 1.8ghz i would put 180 right?
     
  14. gooface

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    no you put the bus speed you want in there, if you want 1.8ghz you need to put 300. I put 317 for 1.9ghz.
     
  15. deadboy90

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    ok thanks, and the first part? theres an "Alienware-m11xr1.lut" file in there, do i add the ".lut" to the end too?
     
  16. smsmasters

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    I'm thinking about doing it too.

    Let me know how you get on with that.
     
  17. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    I just renamed it and made the command like this as a .bat file:

    C:\setpll\setpll m11x 317

    (I renamed Alienware-m11xr1 to m11x)
     
  18. deadboy90

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    ok so to review: rename "Alienware-m11xR1.lut" to "Alienware-m11xR1.bat" and make a shortcut for setpll with the target "alienware-m11xR1 xxx" (xxx for bus speed) and thats it? sorry to sound so stupid I just wanna get this right the first time.
     
  19. gooface

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    no, I renamed it to m11x.lut, dont change that part to a .bat

    then make a .bat file and put the same thing I did in it and see if it works. (C:\setpll\setpll m11x 317)
     
  20. deadboy90

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    ok it wont take that, i renamed it "m11x" but unless i put .lut at the end it says "Target not valid" or something. Christ, im like 8 kinds of lost....
     
  21. gooface

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    yes you should put .lut at the end I said that in my post. and then create a .bat file with the text I posted as well if you want to try for 1.9ghz or do 300 for 1.8.
     
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    If I cut the TME pin is there any reason I would need it enabled again in the future?
     
  23. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    nope, not that I know of atleast.
     
  24. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    if it doesn't work, yes.... read the last few pages, there have been a few users that have had a the TME stay locked after they cut the pin...
     
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    successfully pin modded ; only problem now is that i cant get it to be stable at anything other than stock speeds, i can get it to 1.73ghz and running intel burn at standard 15 passes says its stable, but i still get blue screens at random intervals. im not sure how to tell if its the ram or the cpu which is causing it to crash, anything above 295mhz bus speed causes the system to lockup so i assume that means its the cpu, but i honestly dont know, any advice?
     
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    do u have the overclock enabled in the BIOS?
     
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    1333 mhz tho rite?
     
  30. kendofrog

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    overclock is enabled in bios, i read all the stuff on the first 20 or so pages of this thread to make sure i had a basic understanding of what i was doing, i've tried taking out one stick of ram, and then using the other stick by itself. i've tried overclocking with the bios option disabled which went just as well.

    i should probably note that i have the ics pll so its not like i have to re-solder to make my laptop stable again, and also that im using the unlocked bios. im not sure if that would effect stability, but i have tried using the different memory options in there (changes the fsb:dram ratio from 2:3 to 4:5, which i would assume would be more stable due to being closer to a 1:1 ratio) and that also had no effect either.

    i would get gskill ram, but for one thing i don't have an awful lot of money so i would like to rule everything else out first before spending money on ram, and also ive had a look around and gskill laptop ram seems to very difficult to source in the UK, although there are other 1333 kits available
     
  31. Xaser04

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    1333MT/s (667MHz) CAS 7, the last part is the most important as it allows for ~ 1100MT/s at CAS 6 which the M11x is locked at.

    If you are crapping out at 295MHz in overclock mode you might be limited by your memory (technically it is being overclocked despite being rated at 1066MT/s) due to the CAS 6 restriction or more likely limited by your CPU itself.

    Memory multipler in overclocked mode is 3:2 (FSB x 3 / 2 = memory) therefore at 295MHz FSB you are hitting 442MHz (884 MT/s) CAS 6 on the memory.

    Personally I would say you are unlikely to get any further by just upgrading your memory. You would either need a volt mod on the CPU or leave it as it to push further.
     
  32. chris89

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    That's the same clock generator I use on my Gateway M-6827... are the methods to raise fsb on my laptop different? I set that clock generator and it says pll id error. I checked my technical data sheet and that is the correct clock generator. Otherwise it's RTM875T-606.

    Can you please help me up from fsb?

    thanks
     
  33. Terrificus

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    I have the SLG PLL. I'm gonna try to pinmod my m11x soon (screw the warranty), but I have the feeling it won't be stable at 2Ghz. Well, I'll try to overclock to 2Ghz but if it doesn't work I'll try 1.8Ghz, here are my questions:

    In 1.8Ghz mode, can I (or should I):
    a)Use 1 resistor and 1 power source
    b)Use 3 resistors and 1 power source
    c)Use 3 resistors and 3 power sources
     
  34. eugeniolujambio

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    Hey, I`ve an observation. With Intel Speedstep enabled in BIOS, I was only able to go up to 1.76 GHz, now without it, it is up to 1.85. Idk if just me, but my laptop seems to be more stable when Speedstep is off. My TME locks and unlocks randomly, but with Speedstep off I get the TME unlocked more often.

    P.D. My keyboard has some keys screwed, among them, the H, G, Esc, Print Screen and " key. Due to putting the long screws in the back of the keyboard. A solution is a program called Accents(changes 3 consequent keystrokes into another key). Where is a legitimate place to get a new keyboard? Or at least a trustworthy place?
     
  35. deadboy90

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    First of all do u have the ICS pll or the SLG
    Second, if you do that the ICS pll it may be switching between lock and unlock if you didnt cut the pin well enough, take a look
    Third, you can get a new keyboard off of Ebay for about 40 bucks
     
  36. RigelKent

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    Am using ICS chip, tried method 2 which is to cut PIN14, after cutting it machine boots just fine, the TME flag shows A5 which means it was disabled.
    Downside is Keyboard and mouse does not work (had to use external). Attached PIN 14 again, kb and mouse works again, what could i have been doing wrong?
     
  37. Exclaymation

    Exclaymation Notebook Guru

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    This treas goes way over my head. Is there a way to further oc the m11x using just software?
     
  38. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    ICS PLL equipped m11xR1 systems have TME-locked PLLs . It needs a TME-unlocked to be able to setfsb/setPLL overclock it via software. So have two choices for overclocking:

    (1) factory OC: 200x6.5 -> 266x6 via bios

    (2) TME-unlock and/or FSLx PLL pinmod to overclock beyond 266x6. Has been demonstrated in this thread to achieve an overclock anywhere b/w 1.9-2.1Ghz.
     
  39. deadboy90

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    which one do you have? r1 r2 or r3?
     
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    I have the R1 deadboy. Nando, I Oced my r1 from the bios to 1.7ghz, but I would be very interested in further ocing. I read the first 10 pages of this thread, but the concepts are way beyond me. So you're saying that 1.9-2.1 can only be done by cutting that little metal or soldering an earth to it?

    also, how do I check which chip I have? I know I have the U7300.
     
  41. deadboy90

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    ok well to overclock anymore that what you are already at you have to cut a pin on your PLL chip on your motherboard, NOT your cpu (that would be bad) If you open up your system down to the motherboard one of the small chips (a little more than a centemeter wide) has some writing on it, it either says "ICS" and then some numbers or "SLG" and some numbers. you have to know withch one you have because its a different process to pinmod for each. Now, it you are thinking of doing this let me tell you now, it WILL void any warrenty and if you mess up you may be screwed. also, the pin you have to cut is TINY i mean, you need a magnifying glass to see it well enough to cut.
     
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    The warranty has run out so I don't mind. I'll open it now and see how it looks in there. If I am too much of a I will let you know. I know this is a bit of a dumb question, but assuming I cut the the right pin and don't touch anything else, what is the worse it can happen?
     
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    Just checked it out, I don't think I am game enough to do it just now. Thanks for the help guys.

    Also, I have the SLG PLL. So I guess I would need to solder it right?
     
  44. deadboy90

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    im not sure what the procedure is for the SLG mod, that went way over my head (and doesnt concern me with my ICS pll anyway) lol im sure someone else would be able to help
     
  45. bus_dr1v3r

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    Yes, the SGL does have to be soldered. Pin 7 has to be connected to a 3.3v power source via a 10k resistor.
     
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    It's quite weird here, after installing the newest driver from NVIDIA website, my 2.0ghz R1 WEI scores go up a little bit. However, RAM's score witnessed a big jump from 6.3 to 7.1 :|

    mine is ICS PLL and I just cut pin 14 for overclocking, absolutely no extra works here :|

    ps: the machine runs stably in any test I put on it. However it's freeze every idle time in 5-10 hours (I usually download torrent). Fortunately, I can play computer game in the same period of time without problems.

    [​IMG]
     
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    hey again, im considering doing the vid mod to get 1.1v, but before i do i have a few noobish questions,
    first off if the chip is under the heatsink i assume that means i have to take the whole heatsink off, and in doing so will have to reapply the thermal grease.

    secondly as the voltage increase by 20% im assuming that this means i can increase the bus speed by 20% of what the cpu is currently stable at and this in turn will increase the temperature by 20%?

    what are the chances of some kind of over volt protection kicking in?

    and finally i understand that the chip has to be cut, and that you cant solder a resistor onto it, whats the backup plan if something goes wrong here? can i add a dab of solder to the pin to reconnect it if necessary?
     
  48. some guy

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    yup, your basically tearing down the entire laptop aside from the LCD assembly.

    this is different for every chip but as you go higher in freq the voltage needs to be increased exponentially. the however temp totally depends on the heatsinks ability to cool the chip. in our case, i have not seen the 1.1v VID mod raise the temps to a dangerous level. and i have done many of them.

    none

    as long as you leave some of the pin & track left you can re-solder it back to normal.
     
  49. kendofrog

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    ok thanks, as soon as i get some replacement thermal grease i will give this a go.
     
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    I recommend Arctic Silver.
     
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