M11x - The Witcher 2 Discussion (Problems, Fixes, Gameplay, Etc.)

In January I bought and played the witcher off of steam, since the second one is released now I thought I would go back and finish the first. I re-downloaded it off of steam and now the game wont open. it keeps on saying, minimum specs on met, Even though I did whitelist everything in the steam app folder....

anyone help here?

thanks

 

My god this game is beautiful at high settings (desktop).

 

sounds like a case for Steam Support to me. After reading your message I just fired it up - I downloaded it from Gog last night. It ran up fine, first time. Didn't even have to white list it.

 

I just got done installing the witcher 2 on my r3 i5 OC to 800/1600/980, 3dmark06 9000 score and i'm only getting about 20 fps with the detected settings in the starting camp where you walk right outside. I'm just gonna play this on my desktop lol.

 

Do a search about that because the HD version of that game did that but you can fix it by messing with the ini file if I remeber correct.

 

Okay so I fixed the problem on my r2, and now i can get about an average of 25fps on medium/high settings and about 35+ on all low settings, all at native resolution.

I cant wait for the patch next week that helps optimize the game. cuz maybe i can play it on high.

On another note, ive found out that overclocking to high broke my game and cut the fps in half and the only way to fix it was to do a complete new driver install.

Here are my specs that got me the best performance on the game.
R2 @ 167 using throttle stop
335m 600/900/1300
275 beta drivers, all settings set to default.
No 3d vision drivers installed w/ gamebooster installed

 

Nice. Did some benchmarks on my r2 i5. On 720p i'm getting an average of 22fps regardless if the settings are low or med ( ssao, blur, decal were disabled).
This with R2 @ 167 and ts.
Without ts, I get 20fps.

 

To those getting about 25 fps. would you say its worth getting the game to play on the r2 then? or would you say, don't get it because it barely runs?

 

well with gamebooster, throttle stop, gpu overclock, and the new 275 beta drivers. that all added up to an extra 12-13 fps. which makes it completely playable. The game is absolutely amazing so it is totally worth it.

and to dmfky, if you want try doing what i did ^^^^ and unistall your video drivers, then do a fresh install of the new beta drivers. for some reason when i reinstalled the drivers, and combined that with throttle stop, gamebooster, and GPU overclock, as well as uninstalling 3d drivers. im getting about 30+fps on low settings at 1368x768 resolution

 

Why are so many R2 people having issues with this game?

I bought the game after reading this long thread with the literal intention of deciding if I was going to sell my R2-I5 for the more potent R3. I told myself that if my I5 cant run this game, then out the door it goes.

Well, after fully installing the game and going into the game's configuration and selecting Auto-Detect Best Settings, I booted up the game and it ran FLAWLESSLY. So much so, that I decided to turn on Supersampling, antialiasing, bump those performance hogging 'shadows' up a notch to Medium. Result: Flawless execution again.

I honestly believe that despite what many think on this RAM issue, that having the extra ram really does make a difference in certain games. Also, the speed/quality of your hard drive makes a VAST difference. Im running a smallish but extremely fast 166SSD HD in this non-overclocked/ stock I5 machine. I did however update my drivers to the latest nvidia beta of course.

NOTE: DO NOT INSTALL 3DVISION DRIVERS. PERIOD. You will notice an immediate gain in performance if you do not install these unnecessary drivers on your non-3D machine. If you do have a 3D setup, than let common sense prevail on this advice.

Again, im getting excellent performance on a stock R2-I5 with clean updated drivers, 8GB Ram, and most importantly a SSD HD. The investment really makes a difference in setup. As a sidenote, my machine boots up in less than 7 seconds due to this drive.

Hope this helps!

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/546315-witcher-problem-new-drivers.html

 

Trust me your 8gb of RAM has zero to do with the game.

Reason one.. Its not a 64bit game so even if it wanted to it could only use 3.5GB MAX which would never happen.

Reason two.. Textures etc are dealt with in the Vram of the video card. The 1GB in our 335m's is plenty for 1366x768.

Also I can't see how your stock i5 is playing it better than throttle stopped i7's and r3's??

Install EVGA precision and turn on on screen FPS monitoring in the options and you'll see your running around 25fps. You probably just have a lower tolerance of low frame rates, as i'm used to playing on my desk top and get 45fps minimum on most games it does bother me. I really wanna play the game so I guess your lucky!

 

How are you guys installing the 275.27 beta drivers? on laptopvideo2go they have the 275 drivers but the modified file isn't on there to download. I tried installing the 270.73 drivers and the card would crash the second you tried to use it for any games. I'm assuming i got the wrong drivers.

 

I read that the patch that is set to come out next week is mostly to fix in game stuff and nothing has been said about optimization fixes.

This is unfrotunate news as of right now I have the 275 beta drivers without 3d drivers installed, and my gpu/cpu overclocked with the game set to the lowest settings with literally Everything Disabled, and my R1 is averaging about 13-15 FPS during battle and maybe a lucky 20 FPS if nothing is happening on screen.

This sucks because this game was one of the reason i bought the m11x and its pretty much unplayable even at 1280 x 600 resolution which already takes some of the thrill of the gorgeous visuals away.

 

TH14 it's something on going on at your end. Make sure dangling objects limit is set to enabled. I can play on medium/high with 16AF and still get 25fps on low I get over 30

 

Hey, I did a fresh install and manage to get about 4fps boost. Currently running at a custom resolution of 1120x 630 at 28fps with med textures and bloom on.
thanks

 

Sparky do you happen to have an R1 by any chance because if it is a problem on my end I have no idea what it could be. My R1 is only a month old an I have done everything you can do to speed it up (overclocking gpu/CPU in bios, downloading the latest drivers, and using gamebooster) and you seem to be getting double the FPS as me (I would kill for 25-30) and I'm at the lower the settings will allow with everything disabled. I'm at a loss right now.

 

Fresh install your video drivers without the 3D drivers, set EVERYTHING to low. Except dangling objects limit. I have an R2 I7 but there shouldn't be a considerable difference

 

Installed the 270.61 drivers and now with everything on low but native resolution i get 25 fps when walking out of the initial camp and seeing all the tents. This is a fps gain of about 6 over the stock drivers i had.

I'm not gonna do much playing on the m11x with the witcher as i can max it out of my desktop with 1080p and average 45 fps lol.

 

I hear what you are saying but, I cant deny the fact that I am getting perfect performance on my I5, 8GB ram, SSD R2 all on MED-High settings. Theory is one thing, actual performance is another. Ask any car mechanic, he'll tell you the same thing.

Anyway, the best piece of advice I can tell anyone about Witcher 2 and the M11x is.......get ready for it......


TURN UBERSAMPLING OFF.

Go into the configuration, switch ubersampling OFF and watch the performance instantly fly. My settings for everything vary between MED-HIGH. Im getting near perfect frame rates with this game.

 

Has anyone checked this out:
Witcher 2 sli fix..its the drm.... - Guru3D.com Forums

Mentions of the DRM actually slowing down the game...

 

Other then verifying the serial code, this game doesn't utilize drm. Not requiring a dvd check is great news for m11x owners! This game actually runs pretty good on my R1 after tweaking it! I put the default on high, then turned ubersampling off, ssao off, dangling on and motion blur on. With a wired 360 controller, this game controls and looks amazing at native resolution! I am getting 25-30 fps consistently and the game itself rocks!

 

Just thought I would let everyone know that I ended up installing the older 270 verde drivers over the beta ones that everyone else was suggesting and my performance went up significantly, I have no idea why my sound is no longer coming through my TV via HDMI though .

 

The Steam and retail version also use Securom, only the Gog.com version is completely DRM free. That is why people become angry because Steam is already a form of DRM yet you often have Securom or some other form on top because they are too lazy to remove it.

 

Sorry, after looking into it more I was wrong! At least it doesnt require the disk!

 

That's true but some benchmarks have shown that the DRM has some kind of overhead that reduces performance and increases loading times. Some report a 10 fps increase in the DRM free Gog version and a reduction in loading times, for example 5 seconds Vs 45 seconds!

 

Well, I was able to find the gog executable and paul.dll online and it indeed does increase performance by almost 10 fps per second! I purchased the retail version of the game and I just dropped the new files into the bin directory of the game and it works like a charm! Thanks for the heads up!

 

A few posts back, Jayhoo gave us all the headsup, that was all detailed in the link he posted and I have noticed many more forum users report exactly the same performance boost.

Edit: According to an old thread on Steam forums from the Witcher 2 Devs, they said the Steam version does not have Securom but that they forgot to remove the dummy files. If this is the case then I don't understand why you would get an fps increase now lol.

 

Love me some Steam gameage, particularly on the M11x, but given the choice between Steam and GOG I go GOG everytime.

 

What kind of tweaking are you talking about? Pin modding? OC'ing?

 

I don't have the steam version, I have the retail disk version of the game.

 

I have the retail disk version of the game. What version do you have?

Using your car analogy, you 8GB is like having a turbo on a car but not having it hooked up. A 32Bit game CAN NOT SEE 8GB of memory FACT. So i'm wondering what else it can be. When you say your i5 is stock is that 133FSB or high and not using throttle stop. Can you post a vid of your performance? I'd love to get this working

 

I've been doing more reading, looks like dropping the GOG files over the Retail files does indeed give a pretty heafty gain as you get better GPU usage!

Shall play around tonight.

 

Let us all know how that goes mardon... My FPS is all over the place now. If I reboot the M11x and launch the game, it seems to run better (maybe avg of 23fps, with a high of 28 or so). But if I alt-tab out the game and try fiddling with GPU overclocks etc, then alt-tab back into the game, it immediately drops in fps down to about 10-15

 

Are you retail disk based game?
Look at your GPU usage bet its nowhere near 100% which is why people are getting away (myself inc) with silly GPU OC's.

 

I have the retail disk version and my gpu usage is always at 100% dipping to 90-95% occasionaly.

I'm going to try this drm fix after work tonight.

 

My bet is this will give us the 5fps extra we need. There have been a couple of people on here saying they play it fine. I bet they are using the GOG version. So fingers crossed for medium setting 30FPS at Native resolution. I'll be a happy man!

 

mine is still downloading- fingers crossed for it.

i have the r3 i7 6 gig ram , 2 gig 540m not overclocked- anyone got it to run at a decent rate on that type of config?

 

Game starts straight off now!! No long pause.. But still plays like ! 25fps

Tried it at stock 133FSB no GP OC and its getting 17FPS!! Low settings, Texture medium compression Very High Video Memory Allowance (600MB Apparently).

OC'd Low settings No texture compression with high video memory 25FPS.

 

So just wanted to post my findings, i had the steam version of the game, and i replaced the exe and the paul.dll with the gog.com version, and i still get the same FPS.

Also on all low settings, and every disabled except dangling objects limiter i get 30fps at 1280x720

if i set texture memory to large, no downscaling, shadow quality and number of shadows to ultra, anti aliasing enable, and light shafts. and everything else set to low, i get 22-29fps

Not a considerable drop, and the graphics look tremendously better.

And i prefer play at 1280x720 because on such a small screen, the difference between this and 1360x768 is barely noticable and i get an extra 7-8fps which allows me to bump up some graphical goodies. Seems like ive found the sweet spot.

P.S. if you find your self overclocking your gpu too high, the game will downclock your gpu thus cutting your fps in half. the sweet spot i've found for best results is 575/900/1200 anything higher, and the game downclocks my card.

 

Guys, I just don't know what is going on with your dear m11x, but my baby here is running it on Ultra settings. Yes, ULTRA, and at a good fps, smooth. Maybe fraps is ruining your fps, maybe your overclock isn't doing the right job...the game is MAGNIFIC!! The best game ever made!

Well, I just disabled Ubersampling. I'm using the beta driver, 275.27. I DON'T whitelisted the game, installed the driver without the 3D option and I overclocked both the CPU and GPU.

Ah! I applyied this patch: The Witcher 2: Assassins Of Kings. The first one by GOG. Maybe it works to you.

So, never underestimate your little m11x .

 

I dont use fraps.. I'm so sad..

When did this patch come out?

 

Umm, these aren't "patches". The only "patch" you should get are from the place where you purchased your copy of the game (Steam or gog.com).

The links posted by hadou are replacement EXEs and cracks, and are borderline software piracy.

 

If you payed for the game. How is it even remotely borderline piracy?

 

The use of a patch/crack in this manner is a legal grey area. I won't go into it in the forums, since it is off-topic. If you want to know more, please PM me or start a new thread, and I'd be glad to go into it with more detail.

But the short answer is that a situation like this falls under two different US laws that conflict with each other. So using a patch like this can be viewed as either entirely legal and legitimate, or illegal, depending on which interpretation of US law that you favor. Again, if you want to further this discussion, PM me and we can talk more there.

But fair warning to all: This is not an "official" patch from the publisher or game distributor.

 

ok guys i have the r3 6gig ram i7 540m 2 g. trhe witcher isnt running to great i am on 267 nivida drivers- should i update them. nivida says they are upto date, should i o/c my gpu as well?

 

Oh yea? Well, I can't see how it can be piracy if you have the original copy of the game. But, well, I don't knew that it was piracy, and I'm using it and playing on Ultra settings. Just it, I'm very happy and this patch fixed the problem of FPS, at least by now.

 

If it makes the game experience better and you already purchased the game then go ahead and use the GoG files, sheesh

 

The GOG files are legitimate files and I did try and use them to no avail

 

I take it back..

I just replaced my original files complete with 1 min wait for it to start up. When the game loads and your in the tent with your Mrs it runs around 15FPS. With the gog files it runs around 25FPS. But it does drop to 20. I can't play it like that

Does the game get less demanding or something? Can the people that are playing at 30fps post a video and their settings and OC.

Tried it on ultra and the game runs at 13fps without ubersuperepicsampling.