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    M11x Gaming Discussion Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DR650SE, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. P1ngou1N

    P1ngou1N Notebook Enthusiast

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    OK Guys, Tried GTA episodes and the m11x is not capable of running it for me.
    Native resolution everything low it is very very slow. Unplayable to me. First game i try who doesn't work with m11x.
     
  2. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    I noticed if you do auto configure and the put low on shadows and water etc, but leave the distance to defaulted settings it runs fine. My benchmark was avg 19FPS I think lol. I also read not only on the M11x but most machines the game gets laggy after 15min possibly due to memory leak. So I may wait for a patch. Also it runs worse than GTA IV according to other benchmarks so I can expect performance patches sometime.. It was only released a couple weeks ago.
     
  3. Character Zero

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    I actually wasn't getting that much better fps with a 720p resolution. I think I could have bumped it up to High for 720p, but I felt the trade off was in favor of resolution over effects.

    Other games I play over HDMI to my TV are:
    Crysis - 720p Medium
    Starcraft 2 Beta - 720p Medium, 1080p does fine but its is overscanned and when I tried to fix that via the NVidia console it messed up the sound out of HDMI for some reason, might try and re-visit that.
    Dawn of War 2 - 720p Medium settings

    With a 23" TV I am not sure if you will see much of a difference between 720p and 1080p. If you are specifically referring to Dirt 2, if you go into the Options when you are at the camper (its outside) at the bottom of the graphics settings you can run a benchmark that will tell you your fps details. I ran it a couple of times with AA and different resolutions to find the right fit.
     
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    Bought it too! Can't wait till download is finished(downloading Dirt2 first).

    2 days ago I bought the GTA classic pack for E7,50, yesterday I had a mail from a gamestore, who where advertising for second hand games, they had their collection online (well, part of it), GTA: Vice City for 5 Euro's! I felt so smart buying 5 GTA's for just E7,50, they're quite fun (which is a good thing for 12 to 6 year old games).
     
  5. Bendak

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    Playing Dirt 2 on native resolution with a mixture of high/med settings (majority med) and it's running like a dream, no slowdown on even the large 8 car races. The only annoyance is that the game forces you to have xboxLIVE on in the background.
     
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    I'm stunned by DiRT 2, running it, just like Bendak said, on native, mostly smooth gameplay, only got some slowdowns on the race in London at night.

    It looks so ing amazing, I can't believe it's running on this laptop, the races in Japan look so much better than, for example, Panau City in Just Cause 2, but it runs great, it runs amazing!
     
  7. fyro11

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    Everything seems to point at the processor being the culprit. Man, why did Intel have to have shortages of processors before any ODMs even bought them?

    Extortionate prices + milking market + older tech than potential = Intel

    Intel = fail.
     
  8. Thomas@pc

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    Intel doesn't fail, Dell fails in this case. Dell made a decision to build an affordable ULV gaming laptop, they just chose the wrong processor, this thing is not good enough for high end gaming.

    Intel is a good company, their products are more expensive than AMD processors, but they are also faster. Oh, and even if they didn't want to put an Intel processor in their laptop, they had no choice, there are no AMD ULV's.
     
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    Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction

    runs like :) barely playable, about 13-15 on hard scenes. Even on medium.
     
  10. Lethal Lottery

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    Personally I have my doubts that they could have put something much better in the laptop, and if they did how far could the 335 really go, could they have really kept cost bellow $1000?. Lets give them some slack here, this is the first 11.6 "gaming" laptop, so naturally there not going to be able to put the latest gen of processors in them in the first series.
     
  11. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    ^ it's true, the first i5-ulvs we're seeing in laptops are coming in June with the MSI x360. I'm glad the M11x came out when it did. If I wanted to wait til June for something light and powerful then great I would've had an i-series but that's not what I wanted to do or could do. So I'm happy with what I have for when I needed it (back in Feb/March).
     
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    I only bought this because i got 250£ off from Alienware :)

    Basically... its not really great at gaming... most games have to be set to low from what I can tell.

    But i'm loving the computer, i can game at least, and the usefulness of the unit is really high for me right now while studying and working.
     
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    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    ^ well you do have a nice i7 w/ ATI5850 =)
     
  14. apathyPB

    apathyPB Newbie

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    hey guys,

    im a new m11x owner. Question for Call of Duty Mod War 2.
    What are the settings you guys use for optimal performance on multiplayer?
    (no idea how AA affects the game) and then what do you revert on regular gameplay?

    What are your steam names? I'll add ya guys.
     
  15. Thomas@pc

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    True. It's impossible to make a good portable ULV gaming laptop under $1000.
    Just wanted to point out that Intel is not a fail, since most of its products are just better than (cheaper) AMD products.

    Waiting for my Fuel key btw. I want to play it!.
     
  16. Bendak

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    Just what are you on? Any modern well optimised game should run on high/med settings (minus AA+AF) on this machine with stable 30+ framerates. It's a bonafide gaming laptop which manages to surprise me on a daily basis at just how competent it is at fulfilling the job it was built for.
     
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    Are you really talking about the M11x ? because I playmost games in med/high, and benchmarks talk by themselves, you should really test a little bit more your laptop, it has a lot more power that you thought. ;)
     
  18. Nsxrrmaniac

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    Yea...I don't really play any games at low settings...And most games I run some AF.
     
  19. Lethal Lottery

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    1. Stop using that desktop thats a million times more powerful than the m11x :eek:
    2. use a two year old gateway laptop for a month or two
    3. m11x will appear like a gaming titan!

    The same principals apply to dating I suppose :D
     
  20. Ravenlocke

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    Yeah, your definitely doing something wrong if your at low settings. I just downloaded the high texture mods for Fallout 3 today and it runs beautiful on high settings. Ultra is pushing it, but I can live with that. :p
     
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    anyone tried saints row 2?
     
  22. KSSR1211

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    m11x and fsx: When I first considered the M11x the formost concern that I had was that the CPU would not be strong enough to run FSX. After useing the M11x for Three weeks I am more than satisfied with the performance. Useing the following settings I get mostly on outside views 24fps. dipping for one second to as low as 18 using in game frame rate measureing.

    I have found that FSX can be scaled up or down due to the large amount of settings that you can change, and weather or not you wish to play in a window.

    settings of FSX:

    Graphics:

    frame rate 24
    resolution 1366x768
    filtering anisotropic
    anti-alising yes
    global texure very high
    lens flare no
    light bloom no
    advanced animations yes

    Aircraft:

    global settings very low
    3d vritual cockpit high resoulution
    landing lights illuminate the ground

    Scenery:

    level of detail radius large
    mesh complexity 68
    mesh resoulution 10m
    texture resoulution 60cm
    water effects none
    land detail texures yes
    scenery complexity very dense
    autogen none
    ground shadow no
    special effects low

    Weather:

    very low

    Traffic:

    none

    if you wish you can lower some of the settings such as global texure settings to high, scenery distance to medium. Also scenery complexity to high and a lower resoulution to get a faster frame rate
     
  23. stevenxowens792

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    @ApathyPB - i play cod mw2 at High settings for everything, 2aa and it is smooth as silk. You can probably get away with 4aa if you oc the gpu. Also I always use GAMEBOOSTER and run the game on high.

    Later, StevenX
     
  24. apathyPB

    apathyPB Newbie

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    thanks stevenx, appreciate it.

    Yeah, Im using it on 2x. Also, anyone know how to get AlienFX working with COD ?
    2. anyone try using Microsoft xbox controller on it ?
     
  25. Thomas@pc

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    Grid is running GREAT on it. Mostly high and even ultra settings at 1280x720, motion blur on, very smooth gameplay.
     
  26. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Just played through and beat GTAIV: The Lost and Damned from the episode pack. All played on my M11x, very much playable if you don't mind low settings and some occasional slow texture loading when speeding through Liberty City =)
     
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    Are the graphics better than PS3/360 on low? Thanks in advance.
     
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    ^ I don't believe so. I played on PS3 when GTA IV first launched. There definitely wasn't any texture load issues I'm experiencing on the M11x and I'm sure the PS3 ran at a higher FPS w/ better graphic details. So to answer your question, no. I got it on Steam b/c it was on sale and I don't mind some lows. I suggest getting it on Xbox or ps3 if you don't mind paying the retail cost of it, also since gamepad is more enjoyable although I played maybe 2 hours w/ gamepad and 8 hours on kb/mouse.
     
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    will microsoft flight simulator X run on m11x with acceptable frame rate. it's been asked before by others but was never answered.
     
  30. KSSR1211

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    By acceptable frame rate you have to use your own opinion but I find that 24 fps with high details is alright, you can have lower res or lower detail levels to bring the fps up to a higher number or you can run in a window. Checkout my comments above yours on this page. :)
     
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    lol, i took FSX as final fatasy. my post was totally unnecessary, sorry about that.
     
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    I picked up the Rockstar pack on Steam and started playing GTA IV on the M11x. Anyone know the best settings to get somewhat smooth gameplay without it looking worse than the PS3 version?
     
  33. lie495fc

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    viewing distance place heavy load on your system, lowering it should improve your overall frame rate.
     
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    What is the general consensus here; are most games playable on better settings than PS3/360 graphics?

    Thanks.
     
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    Way better for all I think. Not sure about GTA though.
     
  36. HEUR

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    Why you are trying to compare it with a PS3??? It is an awesome machine, very powerfull for its size, but it is a PC not a console/.//
     
  37. Sirhcz0r

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    It all depends on whether the game is more dependent on the cpu or gpu. Any game that isn't very cpu intensive will be much better on the M11x than a console. More games are gpu limited than cpu limited, so the majority will run better on the M11x.

    GTA IV is the only game I can think of that is significantly better on a console. Even on the 360 it isn't very well optimized though. Some games I've seen run great on M11xs are Call of Duty 4, GTA SA, Assassin's Creed, Borderlands and Dirt 2.

    Bad Company 2 struggles slightly, but is still very much playable.
     
  38. Bendak

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    The M11x is far more powerful than the 360 and it's clear to see in some well optimised games (L4D/L4D2,DiRT2,Mass Effect 1+2,Team Fortress 2). The problem is that developers find it easy to optimise software on the xbox because it's a standard system with no variables. PC's on the other hand can have any combination of components resulting in millions of unique machines.. even PC only games are VERY poorly optimised comparative to their xbox counterparts. It's impossible for devs to squeeze every ounce of performance from a PC.
     
  39. aznguyen316

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    ^ I don't know if you could say the M11x is far more powerful than an Xbox 360. It's true about the optimization standpoint of developing for a console - although many games are multiplatform so it's 360 & PS3.

    In terms of the 360, it has a tri-core 3.2Ghz processor, sure as hell destroys the lowly 1.3Ghz dual core we have. As for the graphics, on paper it certainly looks like the 335m has the upperhand on the specs of the ATI Xenos. The Xenos is similar in performance to the x1900 which is solid card even being near 4 years old. Anyway...
     
  40. Bendak

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    The GT 335M is around 40% more powerful than the ATi Xenos. The CPU is not as easy to compare because you can't simply look at the number of cores and the clockspeed since the architecture is completely different. I'm no expert on hardware components so i can't say.. remember, the xenon is 5 years old and was created at a low cost - i find it hard to believe that it could destroy the SU7300, though i'd stand to agree that it's superior in some regard.

    I have made direct comparisons with my M11x and xbox360 running Mass Effect/L4D, in those games the M11x performs better by quite a margin.
     
  41. aznguyen316

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    yeah I get ya on the GPU standpoint, but I still don't buy the CPU part. Plus put on Anti-aliasing and you'll get terrible framerates and dips on many games on the M11x while a lot (most?) xbox 360 games feature AA.
     
  42. Bendak

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    Much of the time the xbox uses a type of software AA emulation which is far less cpu/gpu intensive, other times it'll use very light AA.
     
  43. vorob

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    First of all we run games on m11x in 1366x768, while xbox shows 1280x720 or even lower resolution Halo 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also in pc versions we can set better graphics, with dx10 features (look at water in bioshock) or just more details and higher texture resolution (gta 4).

    And finally, there are comic number of games that feature AA on 360, think its more realistic in its arcade games.

    BTW, AA is more gpu intense then CPU.
     
  44. stevenxowens792

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    Does anyone in here play ARMA 2 (Armed Assault 2) on the m11x? I installed it a while, played ok and then I got into some really big firefights and the frame rate dipped tooo low to play. 12/13fps. Does anyone have this optimized enough for 20+fps in fire fights? Thanks! StevenX
     
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    Fuel runs great on highest settings, AAx2, trilinear filtering(1366x768)

    Grid runs at some medium, most high, few ultra settings, MSAAx2 AAx2(1280x720)

    Got MSAA on in DiRT 2 too(x2), at mostly medium, some low and a few high(1280x720), doesn't really decrease FPS.


    E: The m11x is way better than an xbox 360 in many games. Fuel for example, Grid, Dirt2, MW2, Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3, etc. etc. Countless numbers of games that perform better and look better than they do on the xbox. It's true that an xbox 360 in terms of Ghz is faster than the m11x, but just compare them, an M11x is smaller, even though it has way more stuff in it (battery, keyboard, screen, etc.), it's just a better machine.
     
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    M11X cant play Football Manager 2010

    i tried to install the game on my old Dell XPS13 and it works like normal

    then i switch to M11X, i cant even get past the installation, it just stops there ( using non OC CPU and Intel GMA ) but that should not be the reason for not to be able to play FM2010, because i know the game is very CPU intensive, but not to even pass the installation? i'd like to believe this is because it is unable to load all those database, or it is unpacking the RAR VERY VERY VERY slow

    that it took almost 30 min and the bar never moves

    i didnt try to go OC and Nvidia mode to install it yet, because imo, that is not supposed to be the issue

    the weird thing is, i installed Dirt with non oc and igp mode and it works
     
  47. stevenxowens792

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    TWE Foju - It does play m11x. I play it every day, as I am almost done with season one, League 2 english table. It is not slow, plays the matches in
    full 3d. I play with oc on cpu and normal on gpu. Plays smooth. I would run gamebooster to remove any background processing that may be going on. I have streamlined my m11x a lot for playing games. Best Wishes, StevenX
     
  48. Eldia

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    Ordered this laptop late last week, eagerly waiting for it to be shipped...

    (I did a search through the forum but it doesn't appear that someone have asked this specific question that I am wondering...)

    For those that play WoW with the M11x, I am curious what the optimal settings is in 10/25 raid environment. I understand that the CPU would be the bottleneck of the system for WoW as it is a CPU intensive game, especially during 25-mans. My plan is to OC the system (hope that it won't give me BSODs), and apply the general performance tweaks posted here.

    Within WoW, I planned to shorten the clipping distance. Are AA / shadow settings CPU dependent? Anything else I should be aware?

    Thanks in advance!

    Edit: I am also planning to limit the game's fps to 30.
     
  49. unreal25

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    Yeah, confirmed played over 10 seasons FM2010. :)

    "i'd like to believe this is because it is unable to load all those database, or it is unpacking the RAR VERY VERY VERY slow"

    Maybe you should "acquire" the game from some other source? :)
     
  50. Twe Foju

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    perhaps, i need to OC after all, it works when i OC, but the difference is that big! :eek:

    like non OC wont even move the install bar, where a 0.4GHz raise would run the installer normally.. , never knew 0.4Ghz would do so much different, lol
     
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