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    M11x phased out... sorry guys.

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by ajslay, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. CEUOTC

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    Aye, l am well pleased at how well WoT runs :D
     
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    Mainly it is all I play :) I also like Evony/Settlers Online and C&C Alliances all browser games but well addictive :D
     
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    kind a disappointed. Planned to get one mini power laptop. Now may hv to shift attention to sager.
     
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    I'm still trying to find an official comment from Dell/Alienware saying that the m11x is discontinued. There's a lot of 3rd person heresay, but I'd like it straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

    Waiting ...
     
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    Same here.
     
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    I dont think you will get it I am afraid because Dell would never draw themselves into a legal argument by saying it has been discontinued should they decide to bring out a new M11x or something similiar.

    It is much easier to spread a rumour and allow another company to broadcast this rumour free of charge without any repo. However this could just be a ploy for a big bang when they do bring it out, they may just be waiting for the ULV version of the IVY or they may decide to wait until the next refresh and focus on their other models at the moment.

    If you were waiting for the R4 and still are then you might want to consider the R3 quite quickly because you could be waiting for a long time, even forever ;)
     
  7. CEUOTC

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    I would say get it while you can, it ain't no ultra book, however it has the same i5/i7(?) CPU with the added advantage of well being AW, easier access to upgrade etc.

    Asus UX21e, Acer Aspire S3 l looked at these, not sorry l got the M11x r3 :cool:

    Best of both world imho.
     
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    ^ yeah, I don't regret getting my M11x R3 at all.

    I've looked at laptops of similar size and none of them appealed to me at all.
     
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    The build quality was what got me.
    Something sturdy, I don't like the thin-notebook trend...
     
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    Same here, I'm always afraid that I'll break and/or snap them. Too fragile, even though I take meticulous care of my tech.
     
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    This really bums me out. I've probably had 15 desktops since I first got my own personal computer (a 33mhz Gateway) and about 5 laptops and this R3 is by far the most impressive piece of hardware I've ever owned. I actually just logged into this site for the first time in a few weeks because I wanted to see if there was any news on a new model of the m11x.

    Really hope this isn't true....I was ready to be a customer for life.
     
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    The M14x is actually a respectable laptop, and it's very portable. Don't knock it till you try it :D
     
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    The m11x is the perfect size for me. I've had bigger 14"+ laptops and was always annoyed by how heavy/clunky they are. If they discontinue the m11x and don't replace it with anything smaller thanthe m14x I would probably pick one up, but I really think a 12" or smaller laptop is the perfect size...at least for me.
     
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    Got bad news guys. I just had a brief conversation with Dell HK Sales Support.
    He said that M11x R3 will be discontinued around next week in Hong Kong.
    He also confirmed that there won't be new M11x. He checked with his other colleagues too.
    I think he is pretty sure as I told him that it will be a big problem if M11x R4 comes out after I purchase M11x R3 next week.
    Even with the new Ivy Bridge no M11x....
     
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    Looking at the two the Origin one has GDDR5 while the Clevo has GDDR3 for the GT 650M. I am not sure exactly what that will mean in terms of performance but I would say Origin might have the better one.

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    Also Origin advertises up to 7hrs instead of the 6+, similarly configured its ~$100-200 price difference.
     
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    Meh. Someone at the "new M14x, M17x and M18x" thread also reported a sales rep saying that existing orders of these laptops will ship with Sandy Bridge CPUs even though Bill (from Dell) said otherwise in that thread.

    Sales reps are usually in the dark in these matters.

    Besides, if he told you "yes, the M11x R4 will be launching in a few months", he might lose your purchase, so even if he knew about it he would never tell you.
     
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    I'd be skeptical about the GDDR5. They are just using the Clevo W110ER with a unique lid. The W110ER comes with DDR3 not GDDR5, and card and chips are soldered on the mainboard.

    You can order from Mythlogic, or go with LPC-Digital or XoticPC and really save some coin. PM the resellers and they can configure without RAM and/or HDD if you want to save money and use your own. Larry at LPC-Digital got me a good deal.

    Heck the base version with i7-3610QM will run you only ~ $900. Ask to have your HDD and RAM removed, that will save you probably $75 or more.
     
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    I hope what you said is true.. Usually Dell Tech, for my case, were always unsure about things I asked them
    This time, unusually, they were absolutely sure. I would love to get M11x R4...
     
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    I still do not see how the cooling in an 11 inch notebook is going to be able to cool a i7-3610QM at full pelt at 45 watts. I can see it running well into the high 80's with ease if not higher.

    Will be interesting to see it happen. I suppose as long as throttlestop allows it you can limit how much power consumption it can use should you wish to run on battery.

    The wattage is the same as my 2760QM but has lower clocks I think I will skip the Ivy altogether and consider the refresh of it next year but if the 7970M fits my Clevo I will be staying put till 2014.
     
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    Alienware's M11x never had quad-cores, I think... in fact, that's one explanation for the "apparently phasing out": they are just waiting for Ivy dual-cores.
     
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    No it didn't and that is my point in favour of the ULV because on the M11x cooling it can hit 70oC with only 17watts so a 45watt quad core is going to burn anything with similiar cooling. I can see it throttling down like mad.

    Dunno why but in something this small I like the ULV it really can pack a punch in such a small model and runs every game so I would not have the need for a 45watt quad to be in it.

    I can see Alienware pulling off something special. Time will tell and IVY ULV is the way to go with 11 inch.
     
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    Agreed! With the more efficient Kepler GPUs and the also more efficient Ivy ULVs the M11x can be even more awesome.

    If that is the case, what I don't understand is why they stopped selling them. Perhaps Intel is no longer making 2nd-gen ULVs?
     
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    Mythlogic ran some tests, and while CPU ran at 90C throttling was minimal. I'll have to check that out when I get mine.
     
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    Is that on a prime test though? That is too hot in my opinion anything above 80oC for a CPU is detrimental and the turbo boost will be running a lot lower at 90oC.

    Think they would have done better going with 35watt CPU's maybe 45 is just too much for such a small cooling system.

    Happy with my R3 even more now :D
     
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    The 3612QM (35 watt) is an option through Mythlogic, it's just really expensive vs. the 3610QM.
     
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    So the only M11x R3 left on the US Dell site is the $899 model with:

    2nd gen Intel® Core™ i3 processor w/ Turbo Boost 2.0
    4GB memory
    750GB hard drive
    1GB NVIDIA GT 540 video card

    Is this even good deal since I can't get i5 or i7 processor? I already an M11x R1 with the C2D SU 7300, but the battery is completely dead and isn't covered by the warranty which expires in 7 days. Dell wants $200 for a new battery. I thought I'd just get a new M11x, but now it's discontinued.

    So is this R3 a decent upgrade from my R1?
     
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    To be honest you would be better to stay away from that and look for one on the Dell outlet with an I5 the I3 just does have the power for gaming or intensive work and it is locked to 1.3ghz and has not turbo facility. It barely differs from the SU7300 when it is overclocked to 2ghz pin modded even with 4 threads compared to the SU7300's 2.

    Get an I5 or I7.
     
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    Yeah, that's what I thought the answer would be. Too bad the outlet doesn't have ANY M11 units in stock. What are the odds that they'll restock them?

    And thank you for the response!
     
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    There will always be Outlets coming up but get yourself onto Ebay and get a bargain deal. The I3 is a good egg for battery life but it just cannot push the boundaries for gaming. Games like Skyrim and Battlefield are going to struggle and the more CPU intensive bad ports will suffer. The I5 at full load is 700mhz faster and the I7 1.2ghz faster than the I3. Huge.
     
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    Excellent points. The main reason I'm thinking about upgrading is Diablo 3. Sure my R1 can run it, the beta looks good on mid-low settings. But I'd love to pick-up a top end R3 before they're gone forever.
     
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    Unless you really want to stick with Alienware, get the Sager NP6110. You can get a model with the i7-3610QM, 8GB DDR3 1600, GT 650m, 500GB HDD for about $900.
     
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    HTwingnut you are making valient efforts to convert people and that is honourable.

    But no matter what it is, it is not an Alienware :)

    You will be suprised how many people want the look, the feel and the backlit keyboard and will sacrifice other things for it. In the UK we have no chance of getting the NP it is not out here so the choice was simple for me but still the M11x remains better for a netbook gaming machine because of its ULV CPU, backlit keyboard, looks and features, longer battery life, better warranty.
     
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    I'm not trying to convert anyone. Alienware M11x is no more, what's to convert? I have nothing to gain by doing so, just putting the word out.

    You have limited options with M11x now: used/outlet, very few new preconfigured, or the Clevo new and configurable with twice the performance for less money.

    I keep hearing about ULV CPU and longer battery life, but we don't know for certain what that is yet. Initial reports put it at 6 hours or so.
     
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    So you are now certain there will be no R4 on a rumour and no official confirmation by Dell? Even so the bloke said he was after an R3 a Sager is not an R3. Hence this being the M11x forum and not the Sager forum...

    You also missed out warranty, backlit keyboard, looks, alienware features and software and add to that the heat that 45watt CPU will chuck out with the cooling it will come with and the R3 looks very respectable with a 17watt ULV CPU consuming less than half the power.
     
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    once alienware , forever alienware , I gonna stick with my m11x until end of the world , unless something happen to me... option 2 , go for m14x-r2 , extra 3" for window gadget lol.
     
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    Do you have any troubles? I manage to fit all mine in :) hehe I luv em!!

    [​IMG]
     
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    no problem , just icons/folders occupied my screens/desktop , it would be better other 3" for more gadget lol.

    I usually download files to desktop , I see you have no icons/folders..good organizer !
     
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    I have OCD things are not so simple for me I struggle with mess and I spend hours putting thing in the correct position :( its a tough illness you should see me in games like Settlers and building games its a bloody knightmare I spend hours building roads and changing things ahahahaha ;)

    I really like the Windows 7 quick bar cannot stand icons.
     
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    There are articles on every tech blog on the web stating the m11x is discontinued, Dell refreshed every other model, and Dell removed almost all traces of the m11x from their site. I'd say it's all but a done deal. Yes, the m11x is great, but I think you're holding on a little too tight my friend. The W110ER (NP6110) comes with CPU options that are lower than 45 watts (there are several options), and it can handily outperform an m14x R2 for around $1000. I hate to burst your bubble, but Alienware dropped out of the 11" segment because they couldn't claim they were the most powerful on earth anymore.
     
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    Just curious, is the M14x R2 available now?
     
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    I have no idea what Dell will do. As of now, it is not available and no word that it will be. Keyboard and looks are completely personal taste, some care for it some don't but it doesn't affect the performance of the machine. It's like buying a car because it has a red paint job thinking it will drive faster. Nothing wrong with wanting something to look nice or different, just not required for performance.

    Warranty is great with Sagers or with a Clevo rebuilder they are excellent, and cost a fraction of the Dell warranty. Not sure what Alienware features and software you're referring to, but most users reformat and ditch all that stuff. I had an M11x R1 for a while, and found nothing of use as far as software.

    Sure the ULV CPU and GPU may consume less power, but it's also half the performance. In any case I don't care what people buy. But some people actually care about performance over looks, just offering options.

    Available to order, yes, just visit alienware.com.
     
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    I have no time for people who go onto forums just to offer their views away from the forum they are talking on. If I went onto the Sager and Clevo forum and starting telling people daily that there is a better option elsewhere I would get told to sod off.

    Even so I have no care for the R4 I am talking about the R3 here and people that are interested in the R3 and at the moment for a portable gaming notebook that offers one of the most important aspects of a portable gaming notebook which is battery life it will win. The only options are 35 and 45 watt on the Sager both double and then some than what the ULV can offer when it is running high performance so on battery it will fail miserably unless you intend to browse in public which people dont spend $900 to do.

    Once again I will say it performance isn't everything, especially not in the case of a gaming netbook.

    Also if what you say is true a 45watt CPU running at 90oC+ in the sager which would be about right from test results that is totally unacceptable I would test your model before telling people it is a better option because I can see numerous complaints coming from it.
     
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    Again, do you know what the battery life of the Clevo is? No you don't. You can restrict the performance of the CPU on battery and will still be faster than the ULV yet probably consume about same if not less than the SB ULV. We will find out soon enough. You can even put a Sandy Bridge CPU in the Clevo if so desired, it's backwards compatible. So do so if you wish.

    And if someone was interested in a Sager or Clevo model that went extinct and you came in the Sager forums and said "hey, there's this Alienware with same form factor that has better performance but cheaper" I think they'd appreciate that. But whatever, I'm done here.
     
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    You are entitled to your opinion, sir. I just bought an m11x R3 (see sig) if it means anything to you. Either way, the m11x is discontinued. By the way, this is my second m11x and I've never gamed on battery.
     
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    I would say you are in the minority with this model and I am the opposite and rarely game on the power supply because the battery is capable of running at maximum performance which for instance my Clevo is not capable off because of the high draw.

    Discontinued by Engadget not Dell ;) Time will tell.
     
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    Time has told. If Dell wasn't discontinuing it, they would have done a press release by now for damage control.
     
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    No they wouldn't why would they on a rumour? The Ivy ULV has not been released yet. There may be no R4 at least not anytime soon but if a company does not say it is discontinued then it is not.
     
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