I didn't know where to put this, but check out the Acer 4820TG but there is a 13" with the same specs... Looks like m11x got beat.
But it's okay, I ordered an m11x and couldn't be happier![]()
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You lose out on design, gaming pedigree and build quality. Seriously? Even a Sony Z/Asus UL30 argument sound more convincing. Just my opinion. I've sent more acers for warranty claims than any other brand and sometimes they get returned in a worse state than they were sent in. Btw, whats the gpu on that one mate?
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I don't think that laptop is even in the same class. If what I found on it is correct, it's a 14" with i-core CPU. Doubtful the battery life alone would compare.
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Actually ive been looking at the specs of the 3820tg(13.3" similar size to m11x with the outer taking into account, and lighter than m11x) over the last week trying to decide over waiting for this or to go for the m11x and the 3820tg is promising around 8 hours of battery life or 12 hours if using 12cell battery. Obviously battery life will be cut considerably if using hd5650.
There is alot of info on the acer part of the forum under the arrandale part. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=464512
It should be out in the uk in may and looks to cost similar or less than the M11x.
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DR650SE, do you think anyone will put together a concise benchmark between the 4100 and 7300 with stats and gaming side by side? Like a chart that shows both and all the scores that go along with each? I know the 7300 is beating the 4100 hands down in 3dmark but it's hard to tell with gaming fps because it is so close. Someone posted a link to tom's hardware (chart) but I dont think it really applies to us. It showed similar processors at close speeds with different cache and fps increases. The problem is that the processors were at different speeds (2.1 vs 2.4 vs 2.6) Thanks for all your stats and benchmarks. StevenX
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DR650SE, nice score!
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The Acer comes with an i5 OR i7 and a Radeon HD 5650, it also has a 14" screen so it is in the 14/15" class. Looks like you can't read? -
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Unreal, I am in your boat with the 4100 coming next week . 6473 is less than 7300 (DR650SE's score). Again I personally am not worried about the 3dmark scores themselves, mostly gaming fps. I think most folks would like to see a side by side (vanilla) comparison between the two cpu models. Like (su4100 stock vs su7300 stock) Crysis Warhead (vanilla) at whatever rez at medium graphics levels with no aa or af. Then another benchmark with both cpu's at oc. Then say a game like Just Cause2 (which is a brand new game). Maybe Stalker bench. Then 3dmark and vantage scores... What are your thoughts? Do you think it would be valuable to anyone or what content would you add?
Best Wishes,
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Steve, I'd like to see those tests side by side as well. If I were back home, I'd pick up an SU4100 version from Bestbuy for a week just to run the tests and return it. I'd be interested in the benchmarks. The reason SU7300 is dominating in 3DMark06 is due to a lack of contenders. Not many that went for the 4100 are into number chasing.
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there's gonna be/is a Best Buy m11x?
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Yea, there was a thread on it. Apparently Dell is really reaching out to the masses. Supposed to start selling on APR 11th according to the thread
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DRE650SE's scores (while they are great and awesome and all that) are with heavy OC'ed GPU and different drivers. The drivers that disable turning off GF335M if I am not mistaken. In fact all of the top 5 are with pretty heavy GPU OC. Check out his CPU-Z and GPU-Z. All my scores and game FPS tests are with only CPU OC'ed. If you compare those with SU7300 tests you will see that in fact, mine are higher with only CPU OC. Albeit, mostly negligibly higher.
I don't want to OC the GPU because I would have to into setting up the entire cooling system and I don't want to do it on this new laptop, that I want to actually last a bit longer.On the other hand, CPU overclock seems to work extremely well. I have yet to see a CPU going over ~53 C when playing a game. Besides as I said, I did not intend to break any kind of record, simply to put out performance tests with the setup that I will be using the laptop with.
Again, I am willing to run pretty much any benchmark/game you want, given that we do not overclock the GPU. The stuff I posted I already had here. But if you want me to run anything in particular, let me know, it's really not a problem at all. -
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Unreal25.. Thanks! Actually I want to run benchmark as soon as I receive my 4100 as well. I understand what you are saying about the oc gpu. I would say this... if we can acomplish the following... I think it would be a huge win.
Stock CPU/GPU, OC cpu/stock gpu (3dmark, vantage, crysis or crysis warhead, just cause2, stalker COP). Then the same test with new driver 197.13. (you can always roll back to the older driver if you want to switch between integrated and discrete). Again with everything vanilla. I think the apps above are all free. Either through steam or independent download. I think each bench should also list hardware. I think we can have some good statistics on hard drives (5400 vs 7200 vs SDD). Most people say that they don't effect FPS but I think some more recent tests would add value.
I appreciate everyones benchmarks and input. These type of threads help others decide on what to order and what products are best for budget.
Best Wishes,
StevenX
Unreal25, I would be interested to see what your crysis and Stalker COP benchmark scores are vs KITIR's scores since he has same config as you but SSD vs 7200 rpm hd. Best Wishes, Steven -
My Crysis and Stalker benchmarks and on the main post on the 1st page. I'll most likely play with the others later on when I'm back from University. But I can't promise anything, getting up "early" tomorrow (8am lol).
I don't think these standard benchmarks are a good test of a hard drive. The problem is when you run the benchmark and entire thing is pretty much pre-loaded into your memory.
On the other hand, I could see SSD being better in real game performances when the computer can't predict what to load into memory (say you're moving very fast or you decide to turn into unpredictable direction that is not "pre-cached") and the HD becomes the bottleneck, giving the occasional stutter effect in games. Or if a game loads up pretty much all your memory and decides to use a swap file. So I'm not sure what would be the best thing to test HD / SSD. -
@ork = its not any lighter than the m11x. 3.9lbs compared to 4lbs. Acer can try but... "shrug" I personally will never buy an acer.
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The Acer won't compare in build quality.
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Can someone post a mark of Crysis running with:--
- 4x AA;
- Native fullscreen resolution;
- Run in DX9 mode (i.e. r-click on icon);
- Shadows and object set to low; and,
- All others set to high.
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As requested: Crysis bench on 4xAA, 1280x720 (there isn't native 1366x768), DX9, Shadows+Objects low, All others high. CPU SU4100 OC, GPU not OC, stock drivers. 25.77 fps average.
Benchmark log:
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 87.45s, Average FPS: 22.87
Min FPS: 10.83 at frame 147, Max FPS: 30.63 at frame 1776
Average Tri/Sec: 14136053, Tri/Frame: 618096
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.48
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 77.56s, Average FPS: 25.79
Min FPS: 10.83 at frame 147, Max FPS: 30.63 at frame 1776
Average Tri/Sec: 16130968, Tri/Frame: 625574
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.47
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 77.68s, Average FPS: 25.75
Min FPS: 10.83 at frame 147, Max FPS: 30.63 at frame 1776
Average Tri/Sec: 16110829, Tri/Frame: 625714
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.46
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)Attached Files:
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I think the acer looks great on paper but for some reason something is making me want the m11x!
And judging from all the benchmarks here its looking like the m11x will be more than ample for my mobile gaming needs (hell ive been getting by with a samsung q210 with the 9300m)
I also noticed that the upgrade(if it can be called that) to the 7300 c2d is now down to £40 on the uk site. -
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Unreal, that is outstanding.. 4aa and still 25fps. Thanks!
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I have Crysis running at 1366x768. I haven't benched it, but I do have one of the settings on very high and several others on high and its perfectly playable! I am in absolute love with my M11x....Last edited by a moderator: May 8, 2015 -
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got my replacement M11x in and wanted to make sure it was up to par, so first ran a Crysis benchmark run on the same settings as I've previously done, all mediums 1280x720, etc etc. Avg FPS: 34.69, ~3FPS higher than my previous runs. awesome.. gonna do a 3Dmark06 run here soon. CPU OC, GPU stock.
Attached Files:
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When you run 3DMark06, be sure to disable PhysX in the Nvidia Control panal
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Hi,
By now so many people have done this measurement so its not worth doing the same thing i guess.
What i have done on the other hand i believe is a bit different.
I have installed Acronis Trueimage and run the 3DMark06 within a virtual OS.
I actually boot into a virtual system (Windows 7 x64) so this is not a file mounted but rather a virtual system running.
As prof you can also see my system manager on the left lower corner of the screenshot.
It is actually sort of cool that the performance is more or less the same as if i was running the performance in windows.
Hope this can be of use for someone
PhysX enabled:
PhysX disabled:
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Hi Guys. Tomorrow i get my M11x. woop woop I have bought the standard model off the Dell uk website. No upgrades.
SU4100
2GB DDR3
300GB HD 7200rpm
1GB M335gt.
Will run 3Dmark06 with no OC then will run OCed.
This should give people who are on a tight budget an idea of the performance they should be expecting straight out of the box.
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why hasnt anyone ran benchmarks for crysis warhead??
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did the performance test in Dawn of War II. All ultra settings, turned off AA. It was a quick test, lots of explosions:
avg fps: 22.71
mas: 54.4
min: 9.77
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AZN.. not bad on the dawn of war.. not bad at all. Did it let you enable ultra all the way? On the demo I installed on my wifes m11x, it allowed one setting to be ultra but not another. Something to do with a patch that had not applied. Do you think the SSD makes a difference at all? Was the load time for the levels fast? Best Wishes, StevenX
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has anyone tried playing crysis with CUDAATS on the m11x?? if so what level did you guys put it on??
What is it?
I have Crysis running at 1366x768. I haven't benched it, but I do have one of the settings on very high and several others on high and its perfectly playable! I am in absolute love with my M11x....
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Anyone here get additional OC on the CPU yet?
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Thus far no, but here is an interesting post, M11x clock generator ICS9LPRS387BKLF
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As for SSD, as far as I know yes loading levels is very fast, but other than that not sure how much it makes in difference after the map has loaded. I'm excited to play though since this game kind of ran laggy on my old setups but it's very smooth and def playable here. When you pan the cam out is when fps drops to 20s. -
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Just got my replacement m11x and 3d Mark 06 is only giving me scores of 4100 on overclock. Any ideas?
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Check your power settings in the Command Center. FN+PAUSE, ->Alien Fusion->High Performance-> Advanced Settings->Graphics Processor->Max Performance. Then re-run 3DMark06 and see if it changes.
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Thanks, problem solved. Now showing 6390 in 3dMark06, which I guess is about right
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Yea, sounds right. Glad to see that was an easy problem to fix.
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Benchmark from my M11x, Ran through the optimization thread then ran benchmark no overclocking.
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@DR650SE
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stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso
@DR650SE - I got to 6900 with my su4100. Oc cpu/gpu/memory Driver 197.xx whql.
how can I paste an image in here...? I dont have an upload or webspace.
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Just got my new m11x, updated CPU and 4 gig ram upgrade only, Ran the 3dmark06 with just CPU overclock and hit 64XX right off the bat. Will get screen shots later.
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@stevenxowens792 - To paste a screen shot here, I use the ctrl+alt+printscreen and paste it into "paint" Then I save as .jpg and upload it to www.imageshack.us Then it will give you a "forum thumnail code" I use that here. We try and keep things smaller then 500x500 for the forum (it's in the rules) to minimize scrolling and excessive loading. www.imageshack.us is nice because you don't have to sign up for an account to upload images. Just access the website and click browse/upload.
@Ishkabibble It's not stable and takes a lot of cooling. I have pretty much every single driver, process, and service disabled as much as possible and run it in front of an A/C. It's running pretty barebones. most services are disable because in the background you have process running that take up CPU cycles. killing those process trees frees up CPU cycles that can be used in 3DMark06 to increase the score. I have CPU usage down to 0% and only increases to 5% when the mouse is moved. If you look at my score vs. the others you can see a slightly higher CPU score. I have seen the CPU score as high as 1480, and the SM2.0 score as high as 3303 or something like that, but for somereason havn't had any luck getting all those to thier peak simultaniously
I also have everything disabled in the BIOS as well with the screen minimized in terms of brightness. Theoretically this allows more power to go to the CPU/GPU, but i don't think it makes any differance in the M11x. Other laptops like the M17x it would probably make a differance since they draw such a large ammount of power. Especially if you overvolt. They are already at the limits. It takes a few runs because the display drivers fail. So it's not practical for gaming. As far as everyday use, I pretty much keep it at stock settings with the exception of the CPU overclock. I pretty much only go that high for the numbers. I have hit 7129 several times, but have not been able to go over it. I also havn't had much luck with the 197.13 drivers. I have done the top bench at the stock settings, switchable GPU disabled in BIOS. -
easier way for screenshot if you have 7 and I assume it's in vista too is use "snipping tool" lets you select what's on your screen to ss and then save.. no need to copy paste into paint and crop out.
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^ also a good method, probably easier
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stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso
ok.. thanks I am at work so when I get home I will post an image up. 6906 is the actual 3dmark06 which I believe is the highest so far for the su4100.
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Nice, if you can kill some more services, and get CPU usage down to 0%, and run a cooler, you should be able to pull off 7K and make the top 5. Might take a few runs. But it would be nice to see the SU4300 in the top 5. I'll PM you.
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stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso
I timed my bootup at work into Windows7. With the bootup logo disabled and 3 seconds added for options It takes 28.282 seconds to be completely in windows, on the desktop with everything loaded. Is this pretty good?
Best Wishes, StevenX
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