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    [-OFFICIAL-] Alienware M17x Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by whizzo, May 29, 2009.

  1. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    At a "later date" there will be something better than 4870s "just around the corner."


    Gotta hate when companies pull the "later date" crap.
     
  2. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    dom't metion the 4870 gddr5. it's stupid. it may come out for alienware since the heat issue won't be a factor but it will be the best gpu out. but alienware is going to overcharge on him if that's the case. unless money and patience isn't a factor then go for it.
     
  3. invinceable

    invinceable Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone care to elaborate how long it usually takes for AW to ship a new system after release date?
     
  4. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    hard to say. the release date is only when AW officially releases the infos on the new notebook. it'll presumably also be available fro pre-ordering then, but there's no way of saying when they'll start shipping.
     
  5. Morgotth

    Morgotth Notebook Evangelist

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    A countdown to another countdown would turn off a lot of customers, I think it will be available for order.
     
  6. Ken204

    Ken204 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just decided to return my M17 and get ready for this one, 15% of restocking fee is a pain, but I hate the design of the M17 (love skullcap though, but the lighting and keyboard are suck, the quick star buttons are not even light up), hopfully i'll be able to refund it quickly.
    I have sone questions, i'll go with a single 280m and a better proc. And wonder if I can install another 280m inSLI later?? Should i go with the 260m and wait for the 4870xfire or a single 280m and then upgrade it to SLI?? also can some1 tells the different between 4870xfire and the 280m SLI?? Which 1 is better.
     
  7. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    yes, you can add another GTX 280M later on. can't tell you if you should upgrade now or later, your call. as for the endless ATI HD4870X2 vs. Nvidia GTX 280M in SLI debate, it really comes down to personal preference. ATIs are better for benchmarking and some games, the Nvidias are better at most other games.
     
  8. brunoroc

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    WOW

    AW still charging for the 1900x1200 resolution in a 2k system .....
     
  9. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    presumably, yes. might be standard, but from the articles i've read so far, the general gist is that it's an upgrade.
     
  10. brunoroc

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    lol.... thats wrong
     
  11. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    I would never consider doing what you're considering doing.

    I say keep the M17.

    You can buy a single GTX 280M and upgrade later but 1) it's the better choice to spend more on the vid cards and less on the CPU (and upgrade the CPU later) and 2) CrossfireX 3870s perform better than a single GTX 280M.

    If your final plan is to buy the CrossfireX ATI cards based on statements that they will be released at a later date then stick with the M17.

    -We don't know if "ATI cards" means GDDR5 4870s.

    -We don't know how long AW means by a later date (See Also: 4870s for M17)

    -We don't know how or even if the Nvidia Chipset will support ATI cards

    -We don't know what tech we will all be drooling over when the ATI cards are made available


    If I had already purchased the M17, and was going to be charged a 15% restock fee for returning it, I wouldn't bet on what ifs. I would hold on to it until I saw definitively, in the form of an option and price on an order page, that there was something better worth buying, then I'd sell the M17 and buy the better option.
     
  12. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    mmm. i wonder who took this route.
     
  13. s3Street

    s3Street Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm leaving for vacation June 18th. I get back August 2 so obviously a notebook would do a lot of good during all that time. Should I just wait to get back to order this beast or does anyone think it'll ship within time?

    Thanks!
     
  14. Phinagle

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    I don't think it will arrive in time for your vacation but on June 2nd you can find out for sure.
     
  15. Jumpboyjr

    Jumpboyjr Notebook Consultant

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    Have it shipped to your vacation destination lol

    And as for the pre-order thing, I highly doubt it will only be available for pre-order on June 2nd. I would guess you can order one and start the process that very day. And since it's a new system, would anyone else think that maybe shipping will be a bit quicker since a. it's expensive to begin with and b. if they're officially releasing it, they must have plenty of stuff in stock to ship out...
     
  16. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Are you still planning on getting a M1730?
     
  17. brunoroc

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    yeah r u selling one?
     
  18. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    buy Moo's M17, a bargain for 1600$, and still very up to date.
     
  19. brunoroc

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    i would but i just have 1050
     
  20. s3Street

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    I had everything you just said in mind except my vacation destination is in Israel lol.

    Another quick question.. should I order one or two of these http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=341-8658 ? I'm really not that tech savy (with hardware anyway) so I'm just confirming whether or not that HD will be compatible. Do they plug into a smart bay type slot or do they have to be inside the actual case. Excuse my noobiness :p
     
  21. Quicklite

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    Did they say what kind of 256gb SSD are they going to use, is it the samsung one?

    P.S: that is a vile avatar, brunoroc... :rolleyes:
     
  22. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    there's no telling. they've used Sammies in the past, but there's no guarantee they won't switch to a cheaper brand. if you want SSDs in your AW lappie, buy them aftermarket.
     
  23. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    No just wondering if you've changed your mind with them being gone in a couple days. I agree about buying Moo's M17. He said he will negotiate so you only have to save a little more.
     
  24. Huey Long

    Huey Long Notebook Consultant

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    lol special COW FINANCING OFFER :D
     
  25. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    These drives are shipping right away! I have a fedex number already from my order this morning. Plus I found a 15% off coupon in my email....so I ordered 2 more :D
     
  27. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    dam buy my 3 and i'll buy them from you. Lol. i just bought a sager np 9262
     
  28. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    Hm 500gig hard drive for 95$..thats an amazing price right? But I've never installed one....easy?
    Also someone buy Moos m17..its green...and its green!
     
  29. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    Yeah, it's super easy to install. Somewhere here there is a link to the how to on that from A.W.
     
  30. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    how to for m17...

    just and example. when the m17x comes out, expect a delay in online how to's for a bit.

    ps: this was for clauss in regards to the HDD install.
     
  31. brunoroc

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    yeah man ill talk with him.... idk if u know a guy from NBR called "Hualsay"
    but im talking with him cuz he is selling his M1730 for 1050 for me

    idk much about him but if u guys could help me just pm me ...
    i dont want to go offtopic

    thanks man


    yeah that what happens when i eat candy :D
     
  32. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    If you're curious about 280M performance, check out the benchmarks I've added to the 280M thread, link in sig

    Now you'll know if you need two cards or if one will suffice :p
     
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    id love a 1730 still myself but depending on price it will be the new aw or the new sager sli for me this time
     
  34. invinceable

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    So have people in the past been ordering the cheapest HD and just upgrading themselves to reap some savings?

    I was thinking about doing this but then putting a SSD in there.
     
  35. LaptopFTW

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    I would probably do that. They vastly overprice the SSD drives and you don't even know what brand/model they are. You are better of Newegging it.

    Sounds like one hell of a laptop. Too bad the i7 couldn't make it in. Is there any chance that this is overclockable if one gets the QX9300?
     
  36. Phinagle

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    JerryJ confirmed that there will be some kind of OC function that gives Extreme CPUs two additional clock boosts.

    No definite answer how fast but rumors are an extra .3Ghz and .5Ghz.
     
  37. AC/ No DC

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    I wonder if this OC function will work for all processor or if there will be some way to use it with our own separately bought processor.
     
  38. Rob41

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    My "guess" is it will only work with Extreme processors, but should also work with an Extreme proc you buy.
     
  39. LaptopFTW

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    Well I hope that is the truth! It would be great to get a little bit extra out of those "old" processors.

    So for the game enthusiast, which do you think would be better? Core i7 Extreme + 1 GTX 280M or QX9300 + 2x GTX 280M? Hard for me to decide between this new AW and the new Sager/Clevo.
     
  40. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    game enthusiast would be the SLI and QX

    a i7 to a game enthusiast would be useless
     
  41. Rob41

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    Not even a close call. The QX9300 + 2x GTX 280M by a landslide! :D
     
  42. Phinagle

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    Dual GPUs and any decent mobile CPU would be better for gaming than a single GPU and an i7.
     
  43. nobodyshero

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    Yeah, the gaming wise you should be looking at a Clevo M980U or this new M17X, not even close for gaming performance wise with an i7 competing against 280M SLI+QX9300. Only differences between the Clevo and this will be price, size (M980U is a 18.4') and style, although the M980U is outright ugly IMO.
     
  44. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    .... that question is starting to make me think......society :)


    MORE GPU power will always be better when playing games then MORE CPU power
     
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    Thanks for the replies guys, unfortunately, that's what I was afraid of. The AW configured to my liking will probably be $2.5k more than the Sager...ouch :(. I just wish Sager/Clevo could have found a way to do SLI with their i7.
     
  46. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    the heat is just to much its gonna be awhile before they can die shrink it to calm the heat down
     
  47. nobodyshero

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    No not that much more expensive lol...I admit it will be considerably more expensive then a Clevo but your not going to be paying even 1k extra for a similarily configured AW M17X. You can kind of go by the current pricing for upgrades AW has up in the sight now as a general guideline.
     
  48. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    i agree...
    remember here (for those that think AW is far to high priced) that AW is attempting to reach more people now. with the backing of the dell brand and the outreach dell has, this can be accomplished now.
    while i agree the price will still be higher then the sager and other units, it will still remain within reach for others that desire to have an AW now.

    AW is going more mainstream, but keeping the gamer enthusist appeal.
     
  49. dondadah88

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    everyone wanted core i7 and dual gpu's. even me.
     
  50. Phinagle

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    I didn't.

    I would've took i5/Clarksfied though.
     
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