[-OFFICIAL-] Alienware M17x Owners' Lounge

ok well everyone except phinagle lol.

 

it is a laptop, not an oven...lol

imagine the heat produced if you have dual gpu's and the i7? you would have to have a dedicated AC vent for the darn thing....

 

or some dice on hand lol

 

Yeah, ya won't ever have to throw the graphics card in the oven cause it's already there! lol

And I thought the power brick was big for the M17.

 

do you really think they couldn't make the core i7 and twin gpu's it is just a 130w cpu

i mean the first old 9262 had the q6600 1st gen which used the same power. now i know they are on 95w and 65w.

 

I'll take a desktop CPU in a notebook when I can hook that notebook up to 2 to 4 external GPUs.

 

is that not possible now? (refering to the external part)

 

Closest we got is the 13" Fujistu-Amilo 3650 which runs an external Mobility 3870.

 

i thought there were things you could buy that would hold up to x amount of GPU's that you could plug a desktop or laptop into and (in essence) boost the incoming signal with the GPU's...
similar to a inline signal booster...i think...lol

 

ASUS and ATI have both made attempts at external graphics cards but the problem has been the bandwidth of the connecting cable.

ATI has gotten XGP working with the help of Fujitsu but it's currently only offered on the one notebook with a mobile AMD.

 

usb 3.0 whooo

 

I'd love to gut my battery case and add graphics cards or SSD's or..........

 

corrected...

 

Well, you're looking at 300W baseline for a i7 and 280M's in SLI with nothing else. That is insane power requirements, insane heat and what little battery life there is as is with the 92XX series would look like a dream compared to a SLI model i7.

Clevo made two choices because the power requirements/heat management would have been nuclear level, heh. I applaud them for saying, "Hey, common now....."

What do you call a system with a 17" LCD, i7 and SLI 280M GPUs? A desktop (ba bump bump).

I do wonder if they tossed around the idea of a M98'esque unit with an i7, Dual SLI 280M's and perhaps a .5" thicker chassis?

Then again, look at our PSU's now on the W90's, M17's. They are pretty monstrous.

The i7 is a screamer. No doubt about it. It is clearly a better CPU than the Core 2 Quad. But there's a price to be paid for that power.

It is going to be real curious how they effectively carve out mobile parts for the i7 and next gen GPUs, namely real 280 cards.

 

well i guess your right. but we still have alot of head room for our systems right?

i know they said the whitebook maxed out and oc'd to 3.07 used 190w psu

we have a 300w psu ans 230w to play around with.

we have a 44w cpu vs 130w core i7. ok ok i get it. i guess its a power requirement the psu is already big. but i think clevo had the cooling down. we need some one with one to see the temps of the i7 and the 280m then go on from there



btw just bought a 9262.

 

Yes it would be funny when the day comes when the Powerbrick is actually heavier then the laptop itself . Laptop 11.46 pounds Powersupply 18.3 pounds. .

 

Power cinderblock?? lol

 

Yes, a lot of people underestimate the D900's cooling system. The system is thick because the GPU's and CPU are cooled like in a desktop, the fan rests right on top of the core, there's no piping. There's no doubt it can cool the i7 and sli 280M. But the the i7 uses such a large socket and has such high power requirements that it's just too early for that. By the time the desktop i7 is 32nm though, it should be possible. Maybe it will even run in the smaller socket. It don't think it'd be a step back if they eliminated an HDD bay to make it happen (when 32nm is available).

QX9300 has a much better power to power requirement ratio than the i7 though, and it still has plenty of processing power. I actually question whether the mobile i7 will be worth it because of the QX9300.

 

power block.

 

yes i figured this option also. but clevo won't get rid of the 3hdd. it's there "siguture".


also you want more pins on your cpu. more pins+cpu= more power, overclockablitly, etc.

so by going less pins will make the i7 perform less not only the i7 but any cpu.

 

So how's the 9262 treating you? Picking up Soviet Sunrise's 9800 gtx?

 

i understand what you are saying, but think of it this way...(as most people wouldlike to play)

max settings on both gpu's, oc'd core.
imagine trying to play a game with the unit while all three items are being challenged to prouce the desired max settings/use...not to mention the spinning of the HD...
add to this the limited space you have to play with...not like a desktop with open space, but in a laptop where space is a premium.

sorry, just dont see it, even from what you said, i cant see this being a capable setup.

 

It's more than capable if the power is there. Sli 9800M GTX and a Q9650 isn't much different, and it works fine. Like I said, it will only be until 32nm that it will be possible again, unless they decide a 5 pound brick is okay lol

 

i want his gpu but i need a heatsink fit it which isn't possible unless i get one from sager or someone that pulls it off there system or one used.

 

Well, you're looking at 3870's (55W) + let's say QX9300 (45W) vs. 280M's (75W) + i7 (130W). So you are looking at 155W for the Whitebook vs. 280W for a "Dream" 280M SLI + i7. 125W difference just on the CPU/GPUs.

A system that is running a P9500 (25W) + SLI 3870's (55W) is almost equal to the CPU draw of the i7 alone. I mean, yowza.

It also shows why they went with a single 280M. That extra 40W room the 9262's have on CPU alone could help afford an SLI setup. Reading up on Clevo, they are sticklers for thermal budgets on the 92XX rigs.

I'm sure with die shrinks, in the future an SLI model might be a possibility, but as of now? Yowza. The one good thing about the 9280 is that the i7 and single 280M will have serious cooling, so that's a plus.

Wow, jumping to the 9262, gratz man! I'd be lying if I wasn't keeping an eye on the 9280 now that they are here.

 

ok i see the power requirement is an issue. and the the thermal budget i remember reading that. but i guess you would have to make it bigger to support it.

 

We find out what's up tomorrow!!!! Does anyone else feel like tomorrow is Christmas, Hanukkah, or 'whatever holiday comes with presents for you' come early?

 

nah i "opened my present early" but it will be intresting to do a comparsion.

 

tomorrow is june 1st??? I thought the release will be on june 2nd ins't it??

 

it is, but some people are already in the 1st of june.
what they dont remember is that it is based on USA EST time frame....

 

I wish its on june 1st.

By the way, is it hard to upgrade the processor myself??

Ps: god darn you, 404, i have to type on and iphone, finished a pretty long reply and then it happened -> all gone.

 

Okay I am really crapping my pants . I just entered the support area and on the top where you select the laptops . Products > Laptops

Omzg the M17x !!! I almost crapped my pant's, thought it was available now !

Sucks though, shipping to where I am is 170 bucks, still on the fence about getting it, because of that .


Edit : Oh its just an outdated Page

 

lol i know what your talking about its over a year outdated

 

I'm hoping it would be similar to the functions the w90 Asus comes with, a single button press OC's the core for you, that ability widened my eyes.

 

I was wondering about the processor myself- I can't remember if Alienware's notebook procs are usually socketed or soldered. Any Alienware owners know?

 

Most companys use zero force sockets and alienware will let you upgrade the cpu if you buy the cpu from them and you send in the laptop to alienware.

 

you can do the proc by yourself....
although this new unit may be different then previous ones.

 

Just hope it's easier to open up than the first M17x. Yikes.

 

i think it'll be a one-screw design:

 

I love the vent layout on the bottom , lots of ventilation is always a good thing .

 

Why not make a custom cooler for it while their at it.

 

hhhh yea ventilation + tooless design = win

whooo

 

Would be cool to have some official cooler with matching lights lol . Good thing about this layout though is that just about any cooler is going to be blasting air in there .

 

the cryo looks to be a super cooler for this thing

only would cool CPU 9400 and MOBO.... GPU's would be hard since they are on side

 

well the Cryo LX has three 120mm fans side by side, so they could theoretically span across the whole back of the notebook.

 

It wont be surprising if someone makes a cooler tailored to this model specifically , they had one in the works for the OCZ/m17 but not sure what ever happened to it .

 

anyone know a good site to ordering OEM hardware?

I would like to compare/contrast the prices between an OEM supplier and alienware. [Whether it be CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD etc..]

 

newegg.com

 

For Ram,SSDs try newegg or just google the specific models your looking for , as for CPUs Ebay is your best bet TBH , GPU's dont exist in that fashion and have to be ordered from the company you purchase the machine from .

 

Good day
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