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    [-OFFICIAL-] Alienware M17x Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by whizzo, May 29, 2009.

  1. Jumpboyjr

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    Post 1000...

    Looks like everyone went to sleep like little kids on Christmas Eve! lol Nighty night.
     
  2. rjod0342

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    is there not a dual core exteme? I would prefer that since i don't have much use for quad at the moment and I could upgrade later if quad were more abundant and affordable. From what I've read only the extremes are OCable (not sure). If so, then only one processor would do it qx9300. I guess i could just wait a day, but i'm so excited!
     
  3. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    i may be wrong but i did not see a daul core x proc avail for the unit...
     
  4. The_Moo™

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    i couldn't get dell's 7% dicount i couldnt select the m17x
     
  5. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    they may not offer it during the initial release...you may need to wait for a week or so...just a thought.
     
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    ill go AW route n get the 5%
     
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    JWest Master of Notebookery

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    I still see it on the french site :p
     
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    OK guys i need some help im playing with the idea of SLI 260's im having trouble finding any bench's

    any one got book mark of some. ?

    also im not familiar with the card but i should be playing any game out on high with a single 260 and max them out with 2.
     
  11. JWest

    JWest Master of Notebookery

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    I'd just say spend an extra $300 and splurge on the 280's ;)
     
  12. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    no benchies i know of, but from what i have read, the largest difference is the shader...
    there was a previous post in here or another where someone put out frame rates comparing the 4870, 260, and 280 cards...cannot remember if it was desktop rleated or not though...
     
  13. Megacharge

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    Well the 260M is a sweet card, and it is not far off from the 280M, check the Clevo forums for some benchies. 260M has 112 stream processors, 280M has 128, both have 256bit memory bus and 1gb of vram, 280M has slightly higher clocks, but with just a little bit of over clocking, the dual 260M's should easily reach stock dual 280M's performance, and should max out pretty much any game at 1920x1200 for the exception of Crysis or Crysis Warhead, which even then it will easily rip through Crysis or Crysis Wardhead on all gamer settings without even blinking.

    Personally if i decide to buy this laptop, it will be with 260M's in SLI as the price performance ratio is too good to pass up, basically its 300USD extra for only an extra 32 stream processors and slightly higher clocks which don't really add up to that much real world performance over the 260M's at least not enough to make it justifiable in my opinion unless you really have the cash to burn.
     
  14. Megacharge

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    Basically a 260M is a die shrunk 9800M GTX with higher clocks, it performs pretty much like a desktop 9800 GT but with faster memory bandwidth 61GBPS for the 260M vs the 9800 GT's 57.6GBPS so you can imagine a laptop with two of these will be quite the beast.
     
  15. AlaskanGeek

    AlaskanGeek Notebook Consultant

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    WOW, there's ad banners all over Gamespots web site announcing the All powerful laptop. Click on the ads and it sends u to Dell's web site configure one....
     
  16. AlaskanGeek

    AlaskanGeek Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the link man.... Errgggg Choices choices! Sager 9280 or the Alienware... I'll have to wait for the reviews
     
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    Thanks for the link! :)
     
  20. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Ok heres my dilemma.... my setup all maxed on a sager 9280, including Blu-ray, sound card with wifi audio... 6gb ddr3, 1 GTX 280m, an I7 950, 1TB hard drive etc.... will run me about 3100... is it really worth the extra 1,000 dollars to go with an M17x with an X9300, 2 260m in SLI, 6gb DDR3, Blu-ray, no Audio card, 640gb HD, and a 3 year warranty which I would get free with Sager?
     
  21. dondadah88

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    go down on the ram and get the 280m sli.


    but i would wait for the new sager
     
  22. AlaskanGeek

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    The Sager warranty is only for labor not parts. I'm thinking about getting the one year warranty and then extending it within the 12 months... that should help lower your config price and it would be a fair conparsion to the Sager since the first year is 'free' with them....
     
  23. Megacharge

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    If your main priority is gaming then yes, but you dont really need to spend 4000 on the alienware to out perform the sager... in terms of computational power no laptop right now can beat that 9280, but in terms of gaming a P8600 and SLI 260M's will slap the 9280 around in real world gaming performance.
     
  24. Megacharge

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    No its parts and labor warranty, i know, because i have one.
     
  25. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    We'll Im going to college next year, I will be getting my 4 year Major in Virtual technology and design... I love gaming, and I will have to replace and or upgrade my laptop in the next 2-3 years... Maybe I should just get a Sager 8662 for my first 2 light years as the 3-4 year I will need a powerful laptop... But I hate to compromise and have been working my butt off to raise money for a laptop... what do you think?
     
  26. AlaskanGeek

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    for the full 3 years.....I thought the Sager site is 1 + 2.
    One year full, 2 years labor...
     
  27. Megacharge

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    Sager stock warranty is 1yr parts 1yr labor, Eurocom (where i got my laptop) is the same, Xotic PC stock warranty is 1yr parts 3 yrs labor.
     
  28. Megacharge

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    Sounds like tough decision that only you and you alone can make, you just need to think it over carefully, and resist the urge to "impulse buy" over the next week or two, and read everything in the forums to help you come to your conclusion.
     
  29. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    I have been on here for the last 3 months milking all the information I can on these badboys... I was all set on the 9280 or the 8662, and then Alienware and Dell had to rear it's freakish double head at me and spit out a glorious chunk of hearthrob machinery... I really need to know what Chipset the new Alienware is using and if it has MXM 3.0b slots or not.... If it does I could be set for the next couple years
     
  30. Megacharge

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    LOL, i was in the same boat, was going to get the 9280, then Dellianware had to pull out this 17" "affordable" SLI rig (just what i was waiting for), and now i think im going to have to get it, just waiting on news if its MXM3.0b yet or not, and a few reviews showcasing the cooling system and over clock options, if all goes well with these things im sold... SLI 260M price performance ratio FTW.
     
  31. AlaskanGeek

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    Yeah the MXM question needs to be answered..
     
  32. MrButterBiscuits

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    Agreed, Good things come to those who wait.... I just hate the last part lol.... I know a couple people who got their 9280's today though

    Anyway what about the chipset/ motherboard... if this has a intergrated GPU as well then it must be a Nvidia Motherboard...But that could be that they are using a new motherboard and we get MXM 3.0's or it could mean they are using an old Chipset
     
  33. Megacharge

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    I think its a new chipset as its using Nvidia hybrid graphics solution, the chances of the MXM slots being 3.0b are very good indeed, but we just need to make sure.
     
  34. Mandrake

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    Looks like this is popping up everywhere on Dell's site except for EPP. :(
     
  35. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    oooooo, god I'm too excited to sleep now.... Isn't that sad lol
     
  36. Megacharge

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    LOL same here, i have to be awake in 2 hours for work, no point in my even trying to sleep now, i keep picturing how nice that m17x would look on my zalman nc2000 :D
     
  37. FoxTrot1337

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    I procrastinated my hw for about an hour exploring the m17x config site.
     
  38. Megacharge

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    Me too, i came to the final conclusion of stock ram and hard drive, the 1920x1200 screen, a P8600 which i will upgrade to quad later, and dual 260M's, cost me 2299.00 usd/2418.00 canadian, just in my price range, now i just need to find out about them MXM slots and see a few reviews, and hopefully i can pull the trigger. :D
     
  39. Shuya

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    I was gonna go for:

    Intel® Core™2 Duo T9600 2.8GHz (6MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
    Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260M, 2GB - SLI™ Enabled
    17-inch WideUXGA 1920x1200 (1200p)
    4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz
    250GB 7,200RPM
    Slot-Load Dual Layer Blu-ray Combo (BR-ROM, DVD+-RW, CD-RW).

    That brings it to $2574, so hopefully it'll be around £2000-2100. Though, I'm still unsure about upgrading to:

    Intel® Core™2 Quad Q9000 2.0GHz (6MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
    4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz

    Is the weaker quad worth it for future proofing? And have we definetly ruled out the 1333Mhz memory being of any use considering the cpu?
     
  40. The_Moo™

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    unless your overclocking both of those will be not worth it
     
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    Weaker quad could be worth it, but IMO for the time being to cut down costs its probably better to stick with the 2.4ghz dual core and then ebay a QS or ES QX9300 for like 400 bucks, even if you dont have 400 right away for that, a P8600 will do just fine for gaming purposes.

    As for the 1333mhz ram, it will be useful if you plan on over clocking the cpu, I think the max ram speed on this particular laptop is 1066mhz so if you are not over clocking, the 1333 ram will just down clock itself to 1066, if you are going to over clock your cpu then the 1333 ram gives you some head room.
     
  42. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    funny how people talk about future proofing without looking at the other aspects of what you have with it.
    i.e. - you can upgrade the dual to quad..ok - but what about the capabilites of the mobo when the quad becomes usefull...??
    your mobo will then be ancient tech by the time quads are used at the peak they are meant to be used for.
    and that is just an example...
    please, do a favor for yourself, get a dual core and save the money...
    in two years time the quad may be up to par and more usefull, but other parts of the unit wil be outdated by then anyway...
     
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    Problem is right now there are no dual core extreme options. Maybe that will change in 6 hours but I doubt it.
     
  44. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    thats another reason i am not too happy...lol
    seems they are forcing next gen cores when they really dont need to...
    but hey, im not on the board of decision makers... :)
    i as you, think a dual core xtreme would be a better seller then the quad one.
     
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    I just hope Dellienware gives OC options for everyone, not just the extreme cpu buyers hopefully we can at least have that .3 OC option.
     
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    your looking at the wrong model ;)
     
  48. kreda

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    Me? There's only one model on the french site at the moment ;) Anyway, the european configurator is quite messed up at the moment.
     
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    change the 2 in the link to 1
     
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    His links don't even work for me.
     
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