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    4870's IN MARCH

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by fskdc, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. Axman

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    what if the 4870's work in the m9750? im sure some people would be all over that.
     
    Axman, Jan 15, 2009
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  2. Sharpe62

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    I had a talk with AW and they said its not so much the problem fittin the 4870's in any machine will be so much the issue.. from what i understand the issue comes from if the motherboard will accept it, if the cooling system in the laptop will be able to support it and also the current power supply to able to power it properly.
     
    Sharpe62, Jan 15, 2009
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  3. Axman

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    yeah, that does make sense.
     
    Axman, Jan 15, 2009
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  4. ichime

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    Well, I can answer that last one by saying the M17 uses the same power supply at the Clevo D901c so...
     
    ichime, Jan 15, 2009
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    The issue is heat..that's the only issue with the 4870s. An inside source has passed that along. To answer, yes. They absolutely fit. Without question. The only downside will be heat, which a good BIOS should be able to control. HOWEVER, OCZ and AW is not known for their BIOS coding. So, even tho the cards will fit.. don't expect stability.
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 16, 2009
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  6. dondadah88

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    Well how hot do you think they will get. what is ati's temp "limit" it can get before they call it dangerous. and i think ati's video bios will take care of that.
     
    dondadah88, Jan 16, 2009
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  7. ichime

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    I won't be surprised if Flextronics designed a new GPU heatsink/fan system to handle the new GPUs.
     
    ichime, Jan 16, 2009
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  8. Axman

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    i believe the temp limit is around 105C but who knows. Maybe they will be undervolted from the factory, LOL. Or maybe we will see a beefier heat sink for the 4870's
     
    Axman, Jan 16, 2009
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  9. Levenly

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    heck, one 4870 would be more than enough power for me right now. if just one would work in the m9750, i'd get it!

    the primary GPU has it's own heatsink and fan, and is away from the CPU and RAM, so the heat won't get to that side as much.
     
    Levenly, Jan 16, 2009
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  10. julian-nold

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    Sorry for asking twice ...
    but can it be expected, that one 4870 will be faster than 2x3870 CrossFireX?

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Jan 16, 2009
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  11. whizzo

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    can't really see that coming, seeing how xfire scales better than sli.
     
    whizzo, Jan 16, 2009
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  12. Sharpe62

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    I would expect 1 4870 to be better then both 3870 in crossfire, or about the same but there are not alot of games still that support SLI or crossfire correctly, I know for myself.. if the 4870 will be compatible with the M17 I will put at least 1 in oppose to 3870 in crossfire.
     
    Sharpe62, Jan 16, 2009
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  13. julian-nold

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    So you think I'll get better performance by staing @ 2x3870 CrossFireX and updating drivers from time to time ... than buying one 4870? (two are realy too expensive^^)

    and you the opposide^^

    THX to you both ... so I'll have to wait and save the money :rolleyes:
    Not a bad solution. :D

    Greetings
    Julian
     
    julian-nold, Jan 16, 2009
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  14. sundaysinner

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    Anyone have a confirmation if alienware will release these for m17.Alienware wouldnt tell us im sure .They did same thing with ripley design.2 weeks l8r they released it,so i returned it.I am now in phase 2 with new build I dont want to go through this again.I would rather have them hold off on build then have to return it and go through this again.Unless someone knows for sure it will be an available upgrade?and not cost a fortune?It would be cheaper to get it in initial build?
     
    sundaysinner, Jan 17, 2009
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  15. Johnksss

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    then you better wait like 3 months or so...they will probably be out around then.... don't quote me on that though.
     
    Johnksss, Jan 17, 2009
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  16. Soloman

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    “It is remarkable that we are now able to build high performance gaming PCs with
    over 1 TeraFLOPS of compute power inside. With that kind of performance and the
    addition of visual enhancements made possible by DirectX 10.1 and tessellation,
    gamers can now achieve cinema-quality realism. It’s an incredible step forward in
    gaming and Alienware is looking forward to introducing the ATI Radeon™ HD 4800
    series in the near future.”

    -Patrick Cooper, Director, Product Planning, Alienware


    This out of AMD/ATI Press Release, although its a bit old it does look like AW is a go with it.
     
    Soloman, Jan 17, 2009
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    The 4k series will be in AWs or else they wont sell any M17s. Cause all OCZ resellers will have 'em.
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 17, 2009
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  18. ichime

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    And why else would they adopt the w840di platform? ;)
     
    ichime, Jan 17, 2009
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  19. sundaysinner

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    should I wait or will upgrading be reasonable?
     
    sundaysinner, Jan 17, 2009
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  20. Axman

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    im sure upgrading will be reasonable. But its up to you.
     
    Axman, Jan 17, 2009
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    Is it a fact it will work in m17 if so can i get a link to some kind of proof?will it work in crossfire?
     
    sundaysinner, Jan 17, 2009
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    Yes, it will. No, you can't. Yes, it will. :)
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 17, 2009
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  23. sundaysinner

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    are these serious answers?
     
    sundaysinner, Jan 17, 2009
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    100%. I'm not the type to BS. I have 100% accurate information the 4k series will fit, and it is currently in testing. Heat is an issue, but there are things happening to resolve that as well. Expect something public in the next 2 months, 3 at the VERY most. :)
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 17, 2009
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  25. Johnksss

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    dang, just noticed that was a three part question and answer..lol
     
    Johnksss, Jan 17, 2009
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  26. E-wrecked

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    No kidding john.. a birdie told me that this is in fact happening..
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 17, 2009
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  27. Johnksss

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    not knocking that it's not happening... it's pretty safe to say it will happen. the exact date and time is something of a nother matter...lol
     
    Johnksss, Jan 17, 2009
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  28. dondadah88

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    yeah, it's making alot of people icth.
    Like when the centrino 2 came out.
     
    dondadah88, Jan 17, 2009
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  29. ryujin

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    yay....then the 3 series should be cheaper...lol
     
    ryujin, Jan 18, 2009
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  30. LaptopFTW

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    Yes and it's killing me! I held off on the M17/whitebook for Christmas and now that ATI announced the 4870 at CES I'm giddy with anticipation. Release it SOOON!!

     
    LaptopFTW, Jan 18, 2009
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  31. sundaysinner

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    Ill call monday maybe ill hold off w/build.I would hate to have to drop another 500.00 for one card in a few weeks.
     
    sundaysinner, Jan 18, 2009
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    Then see my sig and save some loot. :)
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 18, 2009
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  33. sundaysinner

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    i would love 2 but most of the new laptop is through alienware financing.
     
    sundaysinner, Jan 18, 2009
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  34. sundaysinner

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    so i called and they said they cant put order on hold.I would have to cancel order then wait to see.Anyone have an idea what it would cost to buy these cards later?
     
    sundaysinner, Jan 18, 2009
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  35. Axman

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    no one will know until they are released.
     
    Axman, Jan 18, 2009
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  36. martynpd

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    btw some info on crossfire, they ditched slave cards and master cards , the HD series dont need a slave or master card now. 2 identical cards will crossfire with crossfireX

    as for the 4870 i believe you e-weaked i think it will fit too
     
    martynpd, Jan 18, 2009
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  37. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    any one have a est price for alienware to upgrade it? i know no one is sure, but is there a est? and can you have them walk you through it on the phone and if you send it in can u get your 3870's back ....hopin here...
     
    The_Moo™, Jan 18, 2009
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  38. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yay no more master or slave
     
    The_Moo™, Jan 18, 2009
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  39. E-wrecked

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    From what I gather..there is a master and a slave. Not like it matters..just 2 different BIOSes. Nevertheless, sources say they are testing master and slave now.
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 18, 2009
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  40. Axman

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    the anticipation of this is nerve racking.....
     
    Axman, Jan 18, 2009
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    Ok somewhere I saw that the 4870 is all on one card not 2, I know that desktop is one will that mean the mobile be as well?
     
    Soloman, Jan 18, 2009
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  42. Axman

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    it is 2 cards connected in crossfire like the 3870. you can have one 3870 but you can link
     
    Axman, Jan 18, 2009
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    Phinagle, Jan 18, 2009
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    Nice pics.. :)
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 18, 2009
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  45. nerever_kuhn

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    i wonder who that one OEM is .. :)
     
    nerever_kuhn, Jan 18, 2009
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    I see that there are samples and this seems far fetched but it looks like amd is going to make a whole mess load of different 4850/70 cards. not only those but all of the 4xxxxx series.
     
    dondadah88, Jan 18, 2009
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    Don't know but seeing as it's still the size of 2 cards I'd have to guess it's still going to be in a 17" or larger laptop....and as AW/OCZ are already using 2 cards in a 17" it'd be a safe bet it's not them.

    If it were smaller I could imagine it fitting into a 15" or 16" but at that size I just don't see it.

    Not likely the ASUS W90 either since that dtr will be offering a dual 3850 option and there's no mobile single-card 3850x2.
     
    Phinagle, Jan 18, 2009
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  48. Johnksss

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    more than likely it's the card inside the asus model that just came out. w90vp. (speculation of course)
     
    Johnksss, Jan 19, 2009
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  49. nerever_kuhn

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    it might be dell .. maybe a long overdue update to the xps 1730 .. would be awesome :D
     
    nerever_kuhn, Jan 19, 2009
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    yeah, i think your right..just seen a video of the asu guy saying there we're two cards in xfire
     
    Johnksss, Jan 19, 2009
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