ATI Catalyst 10.6 announced!

the fix is to add our device Id's to the list of recognized devices in the new drivers. the hard part is acutally getting them to do it apparently. that's a simplification of what has to happen, but it's a simple problem to fix too.

 

Do we know for a fact that the device ID for the 4870XF is in the Catalyst drivers?

It seems some people with the 4870XF are having issues installing the 10.6...

 

Im basically just looking for some reassurance that this will be fixed as im expecting my m17x on monday.....if its likely to be a major problem, i will return it so any advice info please?

 

At this point I don't see a reason to start complaining, Dell drivers are 10.5's and so far we have assurances(although I'm not sure from whom) that it will be fixed. the only question is in 10.6 or 10.7. it's not quite as bad as the dpc thing, but it's getting there, fast.

 

As long as its something that can be remedied i dont mind......basically im worried that im gonna be stuck with a brick that wont work as it should for whatever reason......hence trying to get info on it before monday as i only have 7 working days from then to return it.

 

You wont have a brick, basically youll miss out on a few new fixes to a few bugs in video processing. its not like you wont be able to play games. You will, just on older drivers, which again, theres one a month so the next one im sure Dell and AMD will figure out, confirmed by another poster to be in the works already.

 

Just heard some nightmare stories about graphics cards not being supported by driver updates and was worried that that may be the case with the c/f 5870's ive ordered.....so many people on this forum saying they dont perform well on the m17x and thats exactly what ive ordered. I can live with short term but if its a hardware problem, (thats what concerns me mostly) then i dont want to be stuck with it if ya get me!!

 

I totally do, im just saying, just because you dont have 10.6 doesnt make them useless, 10.5 worked fine from dell, theres no problem with them and that driver. The thing with Crossfire is that not all games support it, most games do, and to expect a huge graphic jump from it is unrealistic, its like 1.5 kinda thing. and applications like photoshop im pretty sure dont even recognize CF, its im pretty sure a gaming thing only.

And another thing the 5000 series is the new card, it will for sure be supported till the end of the year and probably a bit of next until whatever new comes out, and actually probably most of next year aswell. They still support the 4000 series a bit.

 

Just i have read some people getting 5fps and like that......didnt sound too promising

 

I believe thats more due to stealth mode then the cards themselves, It sounds almost like stealth mode is on right away right out of box and then once stealth mode is turned of performance returns to normal.

 

Are they using the M17x-R2 A05 BIOS? I wasn't able to install the mobility version of Catalyst 10.5 or 10.6 with the A05 BIOS, but when I went back to the A02 BIOS I was able to installed both those drivers without an issue. Dell messed something up in the A05 Bios, I can't believe it passed QA.

If you are using OpenGL applications or games, you may want to use Catalyst 10.4 or earlier anyway (or at least the atioglxx.dll from drivers earlier than 10.5), as 10.5 and 10.6 have a buggy atioglxx.dll that breaks some OpenGL applications as well as OpenGL games with Quake III engine and the likes.

 

I think it must to do with the voltages in the bios.

 

Wow way to open a can of worms there . I thought the 10.6 supports the newest opengl is what I got from the read out.

EDIT: Oh got another question, how important is the A05 bios to have? is it ok to roll back to an older one or will you lose some functions?

 

Also read on here that people cant get 10.6 to work / install......

 

The Driver being up to date is obviously important but 10.5 from dell does work, the system im pretty sure will come with that installed. 10.6 is just an update on some common bugs but isnt required to work, the last one worked fine. Aswell another user whos talked to Dell has said they are working on the fix as to why 10.6 isnt working, and im sure 10.7 will be fixed and same with further updates. They are working on it. Still stands that Alienware is a solid piece of hardware, made of aluminum, and a great value, that does work and will be getting a driver fix shortly.

 

I give up!!!

Problems with drivers...problems with bios.....problems all over the shop from what i can see.....

 

Guys, the problem should be fixed. Don't worry...

 

Haha, no problem here, Steviejones is freaking out !!! I was trying to explain things to him , but I guess I didn't do a very good job at that ...... I tried

Question though joe, why'd you return your R2???

 

Sorry guys, i appreciate your "calming effect" ...i do tend to worry tho when parting with best part of £2500.....1st gaming pc bought for that and well, being a novice, i dont fully understand the issues being talked about....if they are fixable and will be fixed i dont have a problem....

I just hate uncertainty......does me friggin head in!

 

It was a refurbished system instead of new.

 

Thanks Joe.....(oh and i love the message that comes up when you hover the cursor over your rep......"joe is just really nice lol .....that you are!)

 

I hear ya, I'd be more worried about the cards being not optimaly cooled and overheating in the machine, but rest assured they are very well cooled. But drivers can be updated and Dell/AMD are working on it as we speak. Dell knows their customers drop heavy bucks on a system so they wont leave you in the dark. Wait till you get it monday and your faith will be renewed. I recommend putting the hat on once you open it up and enjoy gaming on a power house.

 

ah ok, ya I woulda returned it too. How did you notice it was a refurb??

 

Thanks....i would put "the hat" on but it must be a US thing cos the guys from AW UK said we dont get one....... ....... bet i get a tea cosy instead lol

 

in order to use cf 5870s you must use a05. there are numerous fixes for broadway xt in the release notes.

 

Makes sense, I remember reading that somewere else on the forums, perfect good to know. Then I guess 5870XF users will either have to wait for the fix for 10.6 or the release of 10.7 instead of trying to roll back bios to run it.

And enjoy your tea cosy stevie. I dont think anyone wears the hat anyways, really tacky and nerdy all at once, but its the thought that counts right?

 

For sure....im lovin' the thought thats gone into a free baseball hat.....maybe if they had thrown those few extra dollars into research and development we wouldnt be having such issues eh?......

Baseball cap or correct drivers.....the public can decide.....lol

Oh and can we be sure there is nothing for the m17x from E3?

 

New CrossFireX profile update released today for this 10.6 issue:
AMD talk to KitGuru – BadCompany 2 fix is coming | KitGuru

Profile update available here:
Rage3D

Testing now on BFBC2 and new MOH Beta

 

certainly good news to hear that someone is on the case - does that mean that this will be incorporated into a new driver release or update?

 

thats just a game optimization fix. the artcle doesn't say anywhere about fixing our m17x's

 

But that will happen wont it.....via CCC 10.7 ?

 

ya that link was just a fix for the one game, Id like to agree with a previous poster and narrow it down to the AW profile, the clevos apparently are working with 10.6

 

Hey guys I have an HP DM3 but I want to install ATI Catalyst 10-6 over my current 10-5.

How do I know if I installed it correctly?

 

open CCC after you install it and you should see this :

 

Ummm ok so I did that and it doesn't even have a "Catalyst version" section in the list. That's weird. I thought I did everything right? I installed the W7/Vista 64-bit ATI Catalyst drivers for the Integrated motherboard/graphics solutions since I have an ATI Radeon 3200HD. Is that correct?

 

Here you go : ATI Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver

 

Okay thanks I will try that. Rep added.

So will 10-6 keep all the benefits of 10-5 + more benefits?

 

that is remained to be seen. but ati usually improves with driver updates.

PS: who exactly did you rep ?

 

I gave you rep.

I am wondering if I should go back to 10.5 though because 10.6 has nothing in the note that adds performance or anything for the 3200HD while 10.5 does.

 

unless you're specifically having issues like some other people are, there's no reason to go back.

 

Quick question, will catalyst 10.6 work with the single 5870 and improve performance or am I best staying with Dells driver until dell releases a new driver?

 

I dont think the ati drivers work with our 5870's single or duel. For now we have to use the dell drivers until the issue is fixed.

 

The 10.6's work but only in windowed mode for D3D applications. Soon as you go full screen the screen goes black. So close yet so far.

 

Are you happy with the 10.6 so far then? - was it difficult to update to these? - what kinda improvement is there over previous releases?

Sorry for all the questions .... my m17x arrives today and im wondering how i should go about checking/updating to the newer version or if i should stick with whats installed.

Advice/opinions welcome!!

 

Like I said, 10.6's don't work in full screen so I obviously didn't keep them installed. I reverted back to Dell's 10.5 drivers.

 

Right, so 10.5 are the "pick of the crop" at the moment until 10.7 possibly addresses these issues?

 

welp, now I have to wait ANOTHER month for a fix to the BFBC2 load bug.

 

For future use, can anyone tell me what i should install when updating to newer drivers? - in the above link, there is quite a bit to "choose" to install.....do i just do one or do them all.... - do i need to uninstall the CCC completely first or do anything prior to getting the newer stuff?

 

My suggestion is that you wait and see what 10.7 brings. It may install correctly without any work arounds. If it doesn't then i'm sure there will be a thread you can read telling you how to make them work if its possible.

 

Im presuming mine will come shipped with version 10.5 (i hope).....i will check it when it arrives later but thanks for the advice...no point bothering with 10.6 if it doesnt work correctly i guess

Hopefully, the guys at AMD will get 10.7 right!