AW CES 2011 Discussion Thread

lol you missed al the excitement euh i mean dissapointment

 

Look 5 posts above yours.

 

Dam alienware seem to be a bomb now it mistfired baah, is there any stream video for the alienware or dell ces part?

 

but wait a second how can the m17x not suport the integrated gpu if one of the picture of the benches state that it's runing on intel HD

no and it's over there was a live blog

 

3D gaming with a single 460 ? you kidding me

 

This thread is moving to fast I just saw that, was just saying I see 16:9 Turn off, No RGB LED, Turn off, Same design on the back as the M11x, Turn off. That back is good for the M11x, But for the M17x, the R1/R2 back was much more sleek and sexy.

 

So much for me liking Dell--I wonder what m11x competitors are coming out in the near future?

Edit:
On the m17x front (which i wasn't in the market for anyways) the 6970m is supposed to be better than the 280m in SLI

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6970M.43077.0.html

of course that's all theoretical and before extensive benchmarking

 

Then don't be greedy and buy two of them!

 

Lol did you look up 5 posts from yours?

 

and i say again no new colours

 

Wow that was a real let down. For some reason I really thought Alienware was going to make a big showing at CES.

 

I did enjoyed the razer switchblade very good idea, a lot of brands had great ideas and new products, alienware didn't put any effort in to new things, why?

 

you still don't noticed no sli no crossfire

 

Just quoting what has to be a DELL employee for reference hinting that xfire and RGBLED might be continued on the R3. Wasn't smart to jump to conclusions but that presentation was poorly done for any enthusiasts watching.....

 

ok this just pissed me off, Dell xps is now the alienware wth.... WTH.... look at this CES: New Dell XPS 17 adds 3D - CES 2011 CNET Blogs, came on alienware what were you thinking

 

What is Dell doing to the Aliens?? hey probably this is with a reason(to have more time for previous revisions grrr..)

 

That's not confirmed, just hearsay and assumptions by a lot of people that that have no idea if or when a dual GPU option might be offered on the R3

 

Yea, I saw that too. Wow, I want to se somone get a hold of one of these and bench it. It'll be interesting to see what it's capable of. I also want to see it on the Dell site and see what options are available, but my guess is if they are debuting it at CES, wouldn't they bring a fully loaded system? Anything else would just be half***ing things.

This just made me fall in love with my R2 all over again.

 

I really wish 3D would just completely fail and be done with......

 

Good question.

 

^^This is what i meant earlier..now we can enjoy our revisions,it was just a spark..no biggie!

 

Stated before but, for crossfire it usually takes a bit for it to come up.
I remember joining back in May and everyone was having a gamegasm over those 5870 CFs coming out despite the 5870 being out for a month or so...

Edit: for the integrated gpu, i though we established it was probably a glitch or something...

 

lol maybe they just thought hey with this new GPU and CPU we have more then enough power (like shown in the questionable benchmark). so why not cut on power and weight. kinda like intel and ATI is doing. they reached a point where adding more power brings too much heat so instead they went looking for other solutions too take better advantage of the power already availabe.

or something like that

 

You and me both brother, looks so gimicky

 

That design is taken from the M11x. Which I don't like near as much.

 

Perhaps a single stronger gpu is easier than having all the driver issues and game specific problems with Xfire? I read about how some games had flickering , done games people said ran better on 1 card etc. That's pretty stupid to cough up for 2 cards and not be able to use them to their potential. Not something I liked about the r2. If there is only 1 card and it gets better frames in the games I play then I'm all for it. Maybe it was a decision to reduce power consumption ?

I do agree that this makes sager/clevo more appealing indeed if alienware does drop dual gpu. Maybe they were upset about Asus' strong selling single g73. I think that's what this is targeted at. Perhaps alienware is dumping their pathetic flexible price strategy and that's what makes the cost so much cheaper to begin with..

Not a fan of the body that's for sure. I also think if the lid is aluminum it would have cost them to have it molded. So maybe the lid is plastic. Making it look like a pentium area 51 is sad though

 

That when it was a new shiny toy.

 

It's a much more interesting glitch when the chipset is supposed to completely disable and ignore the IGP.

 

i suspect these spec are just marketing slide it would not be the first time marketing state something that's just wrong

also the dell leak blog was talking about much more mobility capacitie and igp if i recal right so the chipset named could just be plain wrong

 

this 3D thing is so taking over other stuff is being neglected. i think its a big mistake and in a few years people will be laughing at our generation

 

Now you're thinkin'.

 

Thing that interests me the most on this is what the specs on a $1499 brand new M17x are going to be, doesn't seem to be in line with the standard M17x history making me think it's ultra-stripped at that price.

 

I agree with 5abivt. If they can make a lighter/smaller 17 consuming less power(better battery life), over the current model, I'm all for it. I actually like the looks of it, but aesthetics take a backseat to performance anyway.

P.S. I think the rush to judgement is mostly from current R2 users hoping the new system is inferior. It happens every time there is a newer version of a product being released.

 

The question to me is does the market perceive those differences really? If we're just back to better cooling and overclocking... valuable as they are... then most consumers are going to turn their back on even considering an Alienware design but then again, mobility proves to be a draw if the M11x is a sign...

This is usually the case with 3D - it's just a fad that hits every generation or so, at least until a "true" 3d comes around ala Star Wars tech

 

Waiting for the "I called Dell and a rep told me ____" post.

 

quite wrong since most of us r2 owners where very eager to send back our r1 to dell. the r2 was a major improvement from the r1

 

that's why there's the m15x!!

 

I really din like the M11x style lid for M17x... that black piece of plastic is completely gone (din notice that initially)... hmmm...

 

summary-

R2: Still AW's ultimate for gaming. Better screen

R3: Slimmer(?), lighter, new Sandy Bridge processors (Which are REALLY good and will significantly improve on the existing cpu's and equate to well over 6 hrs of battery when running integrated graphcis), 6970m will beat dual 280's but not dual 5870's.

 

What amazes me is virtually everyone seems to agree that an M13x would not only fill the gap in the lineup, it hits a very sweet spot for consumers right in terms of performance and mobility.... I just cannot believe they didn't have an M13x or M14x unless they plan a March release...

Having a more mobile M17x makes _some_ sense... it certainly has presence when you are surrounded by smaller ones at the coffee bar... but I believe they would have hit a serious home run ala the M11x launch for an M13x had they announced a Sandy Bridge based system with great mobile lifetime. Perhaps with the market trending they will let resort to an M11x, M14x, and M17x as some have speculated, but I am now very doubtful about Dell's commitment to Alienware...

 

I still think we need to wait a lil longer before making our minds... its wayyy to early... I say this because I think it has USB 3.. but there wasnt any reference to its presence... so i think this press meet was just a peek... not complete...

 

I hope so, but why waste the moment by not revealing something new ? Even a a few hints at something more would have gone a long way...

 

Here is the AlienWare video shown at the Dell press event. Its doesn't reveal anything more than what we already know.

 

we'll have to wait and see what configs are on Dells site on Jan 10th

 

now its official, no 1920 x 1200 RGB

 

May be more will be revealed by the alienware team... remember the hummer outside??? they will focus more on the enthu market... Dell really is a HUGE company with a main focus on business as well as consumer line may be they din want to change that image and let alienware team do release stunts (with Hummer ie) )???

 

Yeah... Hummer screams portable to me when I think about it. Actually I picture guys in special ops uniforms shooting Alienware Grey's now....

Isn't 2012 the end of the world? Maybe the Alienware Mothership will come rescue us just in time from ARM processor/light mobile GPU gaming hell....

 

When you say "most" I'd like to see the numbers, you derive that from. But I will say at the time, there were big complaints about the R1 regarding latency issues and the lackluster screen. IIRC the latency issues weren't even fixable (I might be wrong). The R2 was more of a repair then an improvement. Once the R2 received the dual 5870 option, coupled with a beautiful screen you started seeing converters, but the launch R2 wasn't exactly a hit, especially with the Crossfire issues I remember.

BTW I'm basing this all on memory (not my strongest asset), I might be way off the mark as far as which version had which problems.

I have an M15x, I want a system with a bigger screen and better GPU peformance. I would've bought the R2 but, I was holding out to see what the R3 was going to offer. The main thing that would get me to pay a premium over the current system is superior gaming performance and USB 3.0. None of the other things being discussed are deal breakers.

 

It doesnt say RGB will no longer be an option. It just shows 3d 1080 will be another option.

 

i hope so
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