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    Alienware M17 *OFFICIAL* Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Mike2011, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. LordNor

    LordNor Notebook Enthusiast

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    am i correct in saying that the correct drivers for my 3870 on my M17 are in the My Hive support area on AW's website under the listing of M17 3870 Master Rev such and such?
     
  2. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    basically, yes. however, if you want the good drivers, run a search for E-wrecked's modded 8.12 drivers.
     
  3. julian-nold

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    Driver Comparisson

    E-wrecked 8.12

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  4. otaku

    otaku Notebook Deity

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    sweet I didn't know this was so upgradeable! (I got the lowest CPU) good news
    I think its kind of cool that AW has an exclusive cause it'd kinda suck to have someone else have the same machine as me (other than styling)
     
  5. pingfreak

    pingfreak Notebook Guru

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    That looks like a question, but I think you were making a statement. If this is true, and Acronis works for you; Please for the love of 'Mankind', tell me... your hd configuration you used with a successfull restore.
    ie.
    Do you have Alien Respawn on the drive still?
    Did you have to do something special to get it to work?
    Did you restore C:/ only or whole disk?
    Did you have to use CD or were you able to set the windows option to reboot then restore?

    Cheers
     
  6. Johnksss

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    working on the answer now.. :)

    nope
    nope
    i did both. resotred the whole c drive and restored missing files and folders as well.
    did both. made the f11 boot option and also booted from cd.


    sorry ping...i have been running around for he last two days and your problem seems to be a thinkable able one...so now i have time to think.


    when you booted up in safe mode (acronis) what happen? did it show you your drive options and what you could do?
    did you use automatic or manual?
    did it say your drive had errors or not?
    this respawn thing...is it a partition on the drive as well? this would have it's own partition on there. and may be the active boot drive.(speculation)
     
  7. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    remember i have the ocz not the m17 though i do not have respawn. i have dual 500gb wd in raid 0. i use acronis 11 home edition. i did a full backup and a restore it works fine. i tried it again today just to make sure and it works perfect. nothing special done.
     
  8. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    hey guys i tried out raid 0 on my m17 and was wondering if these results look accurate for what i should be getting in hdtune?

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. mak5

    mak5 Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry to be a pain, but nothing was said definetly. They admitted that it will be sold for a while. The rest is just a speculation and merry wishes.

    Cheers

    Luke
     
  10. Johnksss

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    do this test again, but this time use accurate/8 meg

    also under:
    device manager
    disk drive
    policies
    enable write caching on the disk
    enable advanced performance

    then run your test.
     
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  11. HaloGod2007

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    what is accurate/ 8 meg
     
  12. pingfreak

    pingfreak Notebook Guru

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    HaloGod2007 - I ran HD tune on my m17 but my primary hd is a 60 gig 7200 rpm I got out of a dell and my transfer rates were so low like 27 - 48 .. so um yes, your transfer rates are very spectacular. Looks like I'll be getting a new HD :) :(

    johnksss
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    zfactor -
    Perhaps It may just be I need to upgrade to version 11 from 10 of Acronis.
    When I booted up using the Acronis CD I could boot Acronis Full or Safe.
    Loading Full results the same as scheduling a restore in windows; The laptop reboots, It shows Acronis Loading then waits and waits (~45 sec) then skips to restarting windows... no restore progress.
    I select Acronis safe mode and I see the program as if I started it in windows. It shows all partitions EISA ect. (But places EISA as last partition, Which I still don't know if it's space is allocated in the front or rear of the drive)
    Automatic or Manual - I'm not sure Automatic I guess, Full restore, that may or may not be something in version 11 not in 10.
    Acronis reported a successful Restore. Nothing about errors. To add, Scandisk reported no bad sectors either.
    this respawn thing...is a partition. This is what was originally leading me to a problem. Perhaps the EISA "Alien Respawn" partition is being read differently in windows than it is in Acronis. This is believable. Drive letters could ultimately be changing between them both.
    I'll probably take another crack at it this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.
     
  13. HaloGod2007

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    ok im doing the test with accurate on, and 8mb...also i enabled write caching and advanced performance...ill show the results soon
     
  14. pingfreak

    pingfreak Notebook Guru

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    I just did the HD tune test on my m17 250G single HD and It's reporting
    46 min
    91 max
    73 avg
    16.5 ms
    166 burst
    19.2 cpu usage

    that's with advanced performance
     
  15. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    i would go raid 0 pingfreak...ur 250gb is fast even now lol...
    here is the test with accurate and 8mb...what u guys think?..the burst rate is crazy high after i enabled advanced hard drive performance in vista? also should i keep the advanced performance for hard drives option on for everyday use like games or no?

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. pingfreak

    pingfreak Notebook Guru

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    To touch back on the Acronis issue - It seems all I had to do was upgrade to version 11. I just restored my first vista backup! Thanks for the help guys. I may have never considered a newer version would have made the difference. Version 10 just didn't work out.
     
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    glad that all worked out for ya buddy!
     
  18. Wambie

    Wambie Newbie

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    Whew that was a long read... 187 Pages. Thanks all for your feedback as it has helped me to decide to go with the M17 and not the M17x. My main use for this rig is as a software developer and will require 8GB of memory which the M17x can currently be configured with whereas the M17 cannot.

    I read posts indicating 8GB was possible but think I have realised why no one has reported running it yet as I cannot find a manufacturer that makes individual 4GB DDR3 SO-DIMM modules yet. The best I can find is 2x2GB modules. If anyone has suggestions of where I can purchase the 4GB modules I would really appreciate you posting a link.

    The 8GB will allow me to run 4 virtual pcs at the same time which is necessary for my work. I have decided to wait for the Dual 4870 config also as it seems so close to arriving. I am a gamer at heart but really only on my 360 these days. Having this rig means I can get a gaming fix while I am on the road with my job (which makes up 1/3rd of my year).

    It looks totally awesome and I am so envious of you all for having one but I have to go with common sense and wait for the best options for me to appear before I purchase one.
     
  19. ojchillinndc

    ojchillinndc Notebook Evangelist

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    You had to read all 187 pages to learn the the M17 is better then the M17x! :eek:

    I would've picked the M17 based off of the price and AW's own rating on their website. But nice pick indeed.
     
  20. Wambie

    Wambie Newbie

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    Its a big purchase and a lot of thought should go towards it, I tend to update every 2.5-3 years and go the whole hog, get the best I can get at the time. At the top end of the market you never get everything in the one package, so you have to work out what you will be happy with.

    When two products are a close choice then to me other peoples experience certainly comes into play. The M17 does have its drawbacks, huge power adapter (hard to escape from with quad core systems), no blu ray burner (I have a 1080 video camera and blu ray burner would be ideal for me), no smartbay, ATI over NVidia (not a real issue but nvidia has better driver support).

    I'm not big on buying cheaper and upgrading as that is the expensive way of doing things. If you buy a 3870 video card and upgrade to 4780 when it becomes cheaper then you have a video card that cost money that you no longer use. So to me timing as when to buy is just as important as what to buy, if I wait till the right time then I can avoid having to update. I have been looking now for around 6 months and am confident I have found what I want.

    I realise the i7 platform is around the corner along with USB 3, better SSD hard drives, possibly OLED displays and so on. This system I am looking at buying now should suffice until 2.5-3 years time when I decide to upgrade again. Then the new platforms should be well settled in with Windows 7 solidly established and so on. This is the approach I take to purchasing a new system and thats why I read all 188 pages thus far :)
     
  21. real_minime

    real_minime Notebook Geek

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    there will allways be a better system and a new technology around the corner. you should start to worry, if there isnt one.
    so, if you wait for the new technology to arrive, you will wait forever.
     
  22. lordvader

    lordvader Notebook Evangelist

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    Wait till till it has the 4870 card & get
    if u will wait for all the things you mentioned
    you will be waiting a long time



     
  23. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yup :D always new stuff just DO IT lol
     
  24. julian-nold

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    he is right ... do it now or wait for the end of time^^

    in the end of 2008 they said to me I should wait for the 4870 :p ... now they still say it ... I am happy I didn't^^

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  25. Wambie

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    The difference is that since december CES 09 has happened and the 4870 has been officially announced and is appearing in other laptops. I expect in the next month or two it will appear in alienwares laptops. I am also in no hurry to purchase as I can make do with what I have for a while longer yet.
     
  26. The_Moo™

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    well its your choice and i am sure when you do choose you will no regret it.

    i gotta be careful how i post i got a infraction for my post makeing no sense and them being poorly written. Also what is the point system with infractions, the infraction i got was worth one point, how does that work

    sorry to be off topic
     
  27. FoxTrot1337

    FoxTrot1337 Notebook Deity

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    Quiet night...
     
  28. The_Moo™

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    a little to quiet .....
     
  29. FoxTrot1337

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    Not really, I mean my M17 fans are always on xD.
     
  30. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    mine is pretty quiet .... never can hear it
     
  31. julian-nold

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    Depends on what you are doing ... surfing makes the m17 *ssssssss* ... gaming makes it *bbbrrrrrrr* :rolleyes:

    I hope you understand what I mean :)

    Mine is never as silent as Mr.Moo's^^

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  32. HaloGod2007

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    my fans are always on because i always have it on high performance....next time u scroll down a website..check ur cpu usage during it..it uses alot lol
     
  33. julian-nold

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    You mean swtiching to "high performance" turns the fans on every time? Is there a option to have them every time on "max"?

    Greetings
    Julian

    Edit: you 3DMark06 score is it 1280x720 or 1280x1024? thx
     
  34. The_Moo™

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    lol mine is on high performance and unless its silent in the room i dont hear it but when my temps go over 80c its like lift off lol
     
  35. Oceanus

    Oceanus Ambassador

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    Now that's a feature I'd love to have-- a floating notebook.
     
  36. FoxTrot1337

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    No need for a notebook cooler!
     
  37. The_Moo™

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    ok im not happy now i can get a quad core for 50 more then i paid for my t9400 and yea :(
     
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    Meh, 2.0 GHz, I rather get dual-core then.
     
  39. The_Moo™

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    way more cores to play with though it spreads out

    my internet is down to 3kbps this sucks it takes 25 sec to load NBR :eek:

    (cause i downloaded 400mb )
     
  40. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    my first benchmark.
    is it good. i'll get better but ati is different then nvidia.

    crysis
    NEXT BENCH RUN- 2/15/2009 11:43:48 PM - Vista 64
    Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
    DX10 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
    Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
    Global Game Quality: Custom
    Custom Quality Values:
    VolumetricEffects=VeryHigh
    Texture=VeryHigh
    ObjectDetail=VeryHigh
    Sound=VeryHigh
    Shadows=VeryHigh
    Water=VeryHigh
    Physics=VeryHigh
    Particles=VeryHigh
    Shading=VeryHigh
    PostProcessing=VeryHigh
    GameEffects=VeryHigh
    ==============================================================
    TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
    !TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
    Play Time: 200.97s, Average FPS: 9.95
    Min FPS: 2.32 at frame 274, Max FPS: 19.17 at frame 990
    Average Tri/Sec: -3512048, Tri/Frame: -352904
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.60
    !TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
    Play Time: 134.69s, Average FPS: 14.85
    Min FPS: 2.32 at frame 274, Max FPS: 19.17 at frame 990
    Average Tri/Sec: -5045745, Tri/Frame: -339799
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.70
    !TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
    Play Time: 134.25s, Average FPS: 14.90
    Min FPS: 2.32 at frame 274, Max FPS: 19.17 at frame 990
    Average Tri/Sec: -5062480, Tri/Frame: -339811
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.70
    TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
    ==============================================================

    Completed All Tests

    <><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>



    NEXT BENCH RUN- 2/15/2009 11:43:48 PM - Vista 64


    Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Custom ~~ Overall Average FPS: 14.875
     
  41. FoxTrot1337

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    My friend, IT IS TIME FOR DSL OR FIOS!
     
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    whats goin on to play the last level in crysis warhead i had to turn everything down to minimum and then to 1280 resolution just to get it playable. like 15 fps i really think my laptop hates crysis
     
  43. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yea well nearest dsl is 15 miles :( so dont remind me lol i wish so bad we could get it

    i have a 1mb download (average is 122kbps) its hughes net
     
  44. FoxTrot1337

    FoxTrot1337 Notebook Deity

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    Isn't Hughes Net that satellite internet?
     
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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yes i live in the middle of no where ok ? lol it sucks its louisiana .... population 2
     
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    If you're ever in New Jersey, first thing you gotta do is come by my house and try DSL or better try out my friends FIOS. :D
     
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    i've used dsl ...called war driving :D backtrack 3 :D ohhh yea but there is dsl but its 15 miles away. i wish i had it :(...it really only sucks when i dont watch what i down load ... 249 mb wow patch :(
     
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    Does anyone here know how to setup a lan tournament?
     
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    post flyers and get a bunch of hubs then pass out the flyers and then when they get to the place plug every one to the hub
     
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    I am a noob at networking. Hub = Router?
     
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